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Story in today's Indy Star... IU cuts 25 postions in layoff bracing for revenue sharing...

So this is really what it has come to... College athletics suck.
Push aside the people with families so a greedy college kid can have the money...

IU cuts 25 Positions...
Total horse bleep. Lady lost her job after 19 years. Worked her way up through multiple levels only to be dumped so a 19-year old with athletic potential gets rich. Totally f-ed up world.
 
The windfall profits the university has been benefiting from due to the massive increases in sports popularity and the associated mega media deals, didn't arise from the fine stewardship of the Indiana administrators.

Now it's time to pay the piper, IU will still get a large revenue stream but they have to pay for more of it.

If people are laid off, yet the university continues to fulfill it's mission, then those people will find something else more productive. Of course it sucks, but it's not the players 'greed' fault.
 
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Total horse bleep. Lady lost her job after 19 years. Worked her way up through multiple levels only to be dumped so a 19-year old with athletic potential gets rich. Totally f-ed up world.
I'm sorry but respectfully, I think you have this backwards.

People should be pointing their ire at the NCAA for creating this situation that was founded falsely upon the backs of the athletes. Collegiate sports did not evolve and because the NCAA ran it like the mafia, it allowed for jobs that should never have been possible. Now people who spent a large time of their life in these jobs because the NCAA was able to generate these positions using the money that should not have been the NCAAs to begin with, the players are the ones left holding the bag? I don't blame the players as this should've started transitioning, albeit very slowly, back when we were kids.
 
"12 were open positions that are not being filled" so it's not 25 people being cut. And IDK about athletics or the people being directly affected by this, but the university overall has grown heavy with "Deputy Directors" and "Associate Directors" and "Assistant Directors" who really don't do a whole lot.
 
"12 were open positions that are not being filled" so it's not 25 people being cut. And IDK about athletics or the people being directly affected by this, but the university overall has grown heavy with "Deputy Directors" and "Associate Directors" and "Assistant Directors" who really don't do a whole lot.
A 17-year veteran of the IU Department of Intercollegiate Athletics, Mattie White is the Deputy Director of Athletics and Senior Woman Administrator.

White was named Deputy Director of Athletics in 2020 after serving in several other key leadership roles within the department for the previous 15 years. Her responsibilities include oversight of some of the department’s most critical areas, including IU Athletics’ academic services, sports medicine and nutrition, athletic performance, the Center for Elite Athlete Development, and the Excellence Academy. She provides guidance for the department’s Name, Image and Likeness (NIL) educational programming, diversity, equity and inclusion, gender equity and mental health initiatives. She also serves as the sport administrator for the football, women’s basketball, men’s and women’s cross country, men’s and women’s track and field, and wrestling programs.
 
I can’t tell much from a distance if any of these moves were good or bad. I feel bad for the IU-fan lifers that worked in the AD.

This is what, about $2M savings? That’s not much, I’d rather we get a sponsor for Memorial Stadium or the FB field or whatever to grow revenue for the rev share vs cutting to pay for it. But, I’m an outsider and I might be wrong.
 
"12 were open positions that are not being filled" so it's not 25 people being cut. And IDK about athletics or the people being directly affected by this, but the university overall has grown heavy with "Deputy Directors" and "Associate Directors" and "Assistant Directors" who really don't do a whole lot.
As a former Assistant and Associate Director at IU, that’s not true in most departments (and many of these positions don’t pay enough).
 
As a former Assistant and Associate Director at IU, that’s not true in most departments (and many of these positions don’t pay enough).
Perhaps not so much in the academic departments, and like I said I was not judging these specific folks. Certainly the university administration in general has fat that could be trimmed.
 
I can’t tell much from a distance if any of these moves were good or bad. I feel bad for the IU-fan lifers that worked in the AD.

This is what, about $2M savings? That’s not much, I’d rather we get a sponsor for Memorial Stadium or the FB field or whatever to grow revenue for the rev share vs cutting to pay for it. But, I’m an outsider and I might be wrong.
But that still may b ehappening...we just don't know
 
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As a former Assistant and Associate Director at IU, that’s not true in most departments (and many of these positions don’t pay enough).
I got a buddy who owns a bar. Each year, when the students go home, I come in and serve. It's akin to a vacation for me...away from the cares of corporate life (or consulting life) which ever is the case at the time. I've waited on athletic department employees...I'm pleased to hear they're not well compensated as they are terrible (I mean horrible) tippers...maybe next year I'll just serve for free.
 
I got a buddy who owns a bar. Each year, when the students go home, I come in and serve. It's akin to a vacation for me...away from the cares of corporate life (or consulting life) which ever is the case at the time. I've waited on athletic department employees...I'm pleased to hear they're not well compensated as they are terrible (I mean horrible) tippers...maybe next year I'll just serve for free.
As a former server while in college, one of the assistant coaches on Sampson’s staff was a consistently bad tipper. But not as bad as the post- church crowd on Sundays.
 
Not all athletic people are bad tippers. When we went to the local establishment following our games in Indy the coaches chipped in and our server ended up with over $100 dollars in tips because they ran specials we included the whole cost of the meal in the tip along with 20%. I think it was due to all of us coming from middle class families [the low end] and we appreciated the servers. This was back in the very early 2000s.
 
As a former server while in college, one of the assistant coaches on Sampson’s staff was a consistently bad tipper. But not as bad as the post- church crowd on Sundays.
The positions not being paid enough can blame it on the department having to many employees. I've seen it dozens of times. The more people you have working for you the more you can demand for yourself. Breeds low performance, poor results and failure.
 
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As a former server while in college, one of the assistant coaches on Sampson’s staff was a consistently bad tipper. But not as bad as the post- church crowd on Sundays.
The collection plate drained their pockets of spare change. God Almighty on High trumps local restaurant waiter...excuse me, server. Before I retired it went from being called a "waiting room" to a "reception area". Those practice management seminar speakers had to come up with something for us to take back to the office as a "pearl."
 
Heard from a source that they told Martha The Mop Lady to pack up her shit and get out. They didn’t even let her keep her mop. The reasoning was they need the money to give Woody another raise for his big win at OSU and that Galloway needs a gold-studded headband to be able to shoot better.
Does TROLL have one or two Ls? I get so confused on this forum.
 
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Total horse bleep. Lady lost her job after 19 years. Worked her way up through multiple levels only to be dumped so a 19-year old with athletic potential gets rich. Totally f-ed up world.
Slave owners were probably equally as bummed out in 1865. Imagine having a family business that for generations, you did not have to pay the people who did the manual labor.
 
I had a different take. My thought was “wow! Here are 25 people whose job in an athletic department whose job did not need to even exist”.

I'm sure those 25 people will see it differently.

How do we know for sure a position wasn't needed?... We don't unless we work in the dept.... Does it mean that someone else now gets their work load doubled-up without extra compensation? I'll answer that myself; definitely.

My experience says you're probably right in a small percentage of the jobs, but not that many.
 
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I'm sure those 25 people will see it differently.

How do we know for sure a position wasn't needed?... We don't unless we work in the dept.... Does it mean that someone else now gets their work load doubled-up without extra compensation? I'll answer that myself; definitely.

My experience says you're probably right in a small percentage of the jobs, but not that many.
It’s not 25. It’s 13.
 
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It’s not 25. It’s 13.
It's 25 if the other 12 weren't brand new positions (doubtful that more than 1-2 might have been brand new). There were 12 other offices/positions where people are likely having to cover for while they fill that position.

One eliminated role was one whose main focus was connecting and preparing athletes with/for professional connections (not playing professionally, but jobs). That person is now gone. I don't know if that's a significant loss or not, but she was the only one that did that job.
 
It's 25 if the other 12 weren't brand new positions (doubtful that more than 1-2 might have been brand new). There were 12 other offices/positions where people are likely having to cover for while they fill that position.

One eliminated role was one whose main focus was connecting and preparing athletes with/for professional connections (not playing professionally, but jobs). That person is now gone. I don't know if that's a significant loss or not, but she was the only one that did that job.
I worked at IU for 10 years. A lot of times certain positions were “use it or lose it” type spots. I can tell you in a lot of departments not to many were overworked. That’s one of the reasons I left. It was a boring ass job and not enough to do. Same job I do in the private side is much more intense. My health suffered working at IU. Just being honest.
 
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I worked at IU for 10 years. A lot of times certain positions were “use it or lose it” type spots. I can tell you in a lot of departments not to many were overworked. That’s one of the reasons I left. It was a boring ass job and not enough to do. Same job I do in the private side is much more intense. My health suffered working at IU. Just being honest.
And I can tell you that working in athletics and working on campus are two entirely different jobs in terms of the demands and schedules.
 
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Absolutely. The same in your example.
That’s what I’m getting at but the whole place is full of nepotism and the buddy buddy system. I know…it’s like that everywhere. It’s not an attack it’s just what I observed. Hell they had a guy looking at efficiency of grants and funds. I asked him how that was going and he winked. Just from his demeanor and the stories he would tell told me all I needed to know. Great guy.
 
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Slave owners were probably equally as bummed out in 1865. Imagine having a family business that for generations, you did not have to pay the people who did the manual labor.
Cry me a freaking river. Players have always gotten paid. Free education, free meals, free lodging, spending money. I wish I'd have been a slave like that. Idiotic take bro.
 
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