Stop settling for mediocre results
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Precisely. This is why you have to look past records to make a proper evaluation. And I most certainly do not think that any coach, regardless what happens, should get at least 4 years to prove themselves. Conversely, I'd say that it's entirely possible that a coach deserves that much or longer. It all depends on the particulars -- and every situation is different.
I can't see how anybody wouldn't say that our team badly underachieved this year -- and, by that, I mean taking into account the roster, the injuries, etc. Injuries don't explain repeated, uncorrected mistakes. They don't explain lackluster effort. They don't explain our offense rarely being able to produce a good look.
You’re still making arrogant posts on here after all of your guarantees are crumbled around for feet? Still?!
There is only one Coach K. Most coaches who did horrible in their first two seasons fail! If they are not good in their first two, the chance of them becoming coach K is almost zero. And we could all see here. This guy is no Coach K!
BTW, Coach K did ok in his first year at Duke. They were in the NIT which was more respectful in these days. He did not have a Burger All American on his roster and could not make postseason.
I agree. Most coaches should get time to get their players and system. But in some cases. A good AD can see the writing on the wall early. Thats the trust the fan base should have in a high paid AD. The end of every year should be evaluated. And a good AD should be able to see if any progress in culture and a system has been put in, and evolving.
At Dayton, Archie was successful by building a program. Relied on upperclassmen. Relied on guys who have been in the system for 3-5 years.
If hunter were healthy, IU was starting 3 freshman this year.
And you are correct. This is the Big Ten. Arguably one of the best conferences in hoops. Unless we hired Calipari, Self, Izzo, or Coach K, this program wasn’t changing over night. As evidenced elsewhere - it takes time. Couple that with a tough conference most years and a “program coach” - not a legend (yet) and it’s going to take time.
Arch has a plan. He’ll execute. No more over signing. No more running off Matt Roth. No more making up academic fraud on Patterson. No more switching defenses three times in one possession. No more not using out big men north of the elbow. No more schollies for gelon, priller, and April. We have a guy with a plan and knows how to execute.
Unfortunately for fans and everyone - it takes time. Get another good class in here, get Hunter back, only going up starting next year.
You got it you got to build a culture. That culture starts next year. Hopefully ncaa as well.
Big Big ups championing Will Wade. You and victorbear really know coaching...bump
Sure! Since we lost by one point to Arkansas on their home court and actually if not for missing a tip in would have won that game we can't compete in the SEC. I do recall knocking off Kentucky and Cal stopped playing us behind some lame excuse.
Florida under Donovan and Kentucky so don't act like the SEC puts out national champions every year.
How many top recruiting classes has Kentucky had under Cal compared to the championships he's won. I think winning one championship with all the top talent he gets is proof that he is a good recruiter and horrible coach.
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Barnes teams at Texas had some nice seasons at UT but his teams seem like classic underachievers to me.
There was the year they Kevin durant and couldn't even make the Sweet 16. Got blowed out by USC in Round of 32.
then there was the year (09-10) they were 17-0 and were ranked number 1 when conference play started and wound up 24-10 unranked and lost in round 1 of NCAA. They had 2 eventual first round draft picks on that team and also Damian James who flirted with the NBA for a couple of season.
Then they had the Tristan Thompson Team with Cory Joseph and Hamilton back from the previous season in 2010-11. They were pretty good but once again stumbled down the stretch only to get upset by Zona in the round of 32.
His last 7 years, the team was 12 games over .500 in conference play only because the 2010-11 team was 10 games over .500. And as mentioned above they stumbled to finish out the season. This forum would of melted down with those results.
Rick Barnes. meh. Not saying he is a bad coach but there is nothing special about this guy.
There was the year they Kevin durant and couldn't even make the Sweet 16. Got blowed out by USC in Round of 32.
then there was the year (09-10) they were 17-0 and were ranked number 1 when conference play started and wound up 24-10 unranked and lost in round 1 of NCAA. They had 2 eventual first round draft picks on that team and also Damian James who flirted with the NBA for a couple of season.
Then they had the Tristan Thompson Team with Cory Joseph and Hamilton back from the previous season in 2010-11. They were pretty good but once again stumbled down the stretch only to get upset by Zona in the round of 32.
His last 7 years, the team was 12 games over .500 in conference play only because the 2010-11 team was 10 games over .500. And as mentioned above they stumbled to finish out the season. This forum would of melted down with those results.
Rick Barnes. meh. Not saying he is a bad coach but there is nothing special about this guy.
Yes based on the talent he brings in and not his coaching. I think there is a lot of coaches that could make a few final fours if they bring in top three classes every year. That doesn’t make them good coaches.
