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My pop kind of lost his shit when it ended. He’d put so much of his works into it it hit him really hard
I can see that happening too. All things must come to an end. My wife, however, is apoplectic about the end coming for one, and coming soon for the other. I said "c'mon baby, look at it this way, that just leaves more time for us to make love". Her response:

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My best advice, as both my kids played in the Academy system and one just finished up playing in college this fall, and the other has one more year left, don't go to the best club early--go to the BEST TRAINER!!! The best trainer is one that: (1) encourages and rewards skill; (2) encourages players to take guys on; (3) encourages players to play on their own; and (4) encourages creativity.

If you see a coach who starts practice with INTENSE RONDO, stay and watch. If you see a coach making his team condition after practice--RUN AWAY. Conditioning should be done through a fast paced practice where movement is constant. RONDO AND SMALL SIDED GAMES MAKE MAGIC!!!!

Just my two cents. I may not have baby arm holding an apple dangling from my waist like @mcmurtry66, but I seen some stuff 😉

Let me ask you a follow-up as a newbie to this and someone that was never good at or that interested in soccer as a kid:

I'll preface this by saying, I want my kids to be competitive to the extent they like competitive sport - I don't have any delusions that they will be D1 players, let alone something more.

My son is just turning 7 and we are trying to pick a U8 team to commit to (for time's sake more than anything). I'm not sure how you determine who the best trainer is, other than if I go watch how each handles a practice before signing up - but maybe that's what you suggest?

In other words, I have no idea how to pick between an ECNL team vs. NPL team vs. other. If this were basketball or baseball, it would be much easier for me.
 
Let me ask you a follow-up as a newbie to this and someone that was never good at or that interested in soccer as a kid:

I'll preface this by saying, I want my kids to be competitive to the extent they like competitive sport - I don't have any delusions that they will be D1 players, let alone something more.

My son is just turning 7 and we are trying to pick a U8 team to commit to (for time's sake more than anything). I'm not sure how you determine who the best trainer is, other than if I go watch how each handles a practice before signing up - but maybe that's what you suggest?

In other words, I have no idea how to pick between an ECNL team vs. NPL team vs. other. If this were basketball or baseball, it would be much easier for me.
If you post the club names I can give you an early impression.
 
Let me ask you a follow-up as a newbie to this and someone that was never good at or that interested in soccer as a kid:

I'll preface this by saying, I want my kids to be competitive to the extent they like competitive sport - I don't have any delusions that they will be D1 players, let alone something more.

My son is just turning 7 and we are trying to pick a U8 team to commit to (for time's sake more than anything). I'm not sure how you determine who the best trainer is, other than if I go watch how each handles a practice before signing up - but maybe that's what you suggest?

In other words, I have no idea how to pick between an ECNL team vs. NPL team vs. other. If this were basketball or baseball, it would be much easier for me.
I will tell you I was tied in, played for, coached at, a big club here called Scott Gallagher. I started my daughter there and it was a mistake. My minion will eventually gravitate there but he has training now and will start at a smaller club my buddy has. It’ll be a better experience for him for his first years. Around 4th or 5th grade I’ll move him over
 
Let me ask you a follow-up as a newbie to this and someone that was never good at or that interested in soccer as a kid:

I'll preface this by saying, I want my kids to be competitive to the extent they like competitive sport - I don't have any delusions that they will be D1 players, let alone something more.

My son is just turning 7 and we are trying to pick a U8 team to commit to (for time's sake more than anything). I'm not sure how you determine who the best trainer is, other than if I go watch how each handles a practice before signing up - but maybe that's what you suggest?

In other words, I have no idea how to pick between an ECNL team vs. NPL team vs. other. If this were basketball or baseball, it would be much easier for me.
Some of this stuff you need to watch in theory, but ask around some of your buddies. Go watch a practice. At your son's age, you are looking for: (1) positive energy; (2) lots of energy; (3) focus on the ball--how much time are they touching it. Reward your kid for dribbling around in the basement and setting up his own obstacle course. I was told early on to make sure my kids were two footed--they are. HUGE bonus as before my oldest was switched to midfield his last year before he went to college, he could play left back or right back. The constant touches on the ball early on made it so switch to the midfield in college.

Where do you live?
 
Stay away from the the Thunder. The coaches at the younger ages groups there aren't going to be good. For the Academies (MLS Teams), the younger teams are simply there to find the one or two gems a year--that's it. That's my two cents

What age would it make sense to transition - assuming my kids even want to keep playing? 12U? Just trying to understand the landscape.
 
Watch it all. Damn the English know how to watch a football match. Last Merseyside derby at Goodison and they do this. Also Michael Oliver just handing out reds to everyone at the end is fantastic.

 
Watch it all. Damn the English know how to watch a football match. Last Merseyside derby at Goodison and they do this. Also Michael Oliver just handing out reds to everyone at the end is fantastic.

Doucoure's shithousing by running to the Liverpool fans and being a dick. Perfection.

Also, before I forget, **** Liverpool.
 
How’s he doing by the way. What’s the latest
He's OK. About 6 weeks ago, I chewed his ass out. Told him he had to pay hard every second he was on the ice, couldn't take a sequence off, needed to hustle or he was never going to compete with anyone. For about 6-8 games, he was really going hard. Had a lot of parents come up to me and ask what had gotten into him, that he looked really improved.

But he's still not as fast or as skilled as the other players. Just can't go one on one with anyone and gets beat to the puck too often. What's frustrating is, I've told him ad naseum he has to practice outside of practice--needs to find stick & puck time (basically open gyms for ice) and tell me when, and we'll go so he can work individually on his skating, shot, etc. But he "forgets" or doesn't do it, so I have to, which pisses me off because this really isn't my dream, it's his. He could be a better skater, if he did what I tell him to do, but he won't listen or it just doesn't sink in.

At this point, the only way he makes the JV team in the fall (which is good, top 10 in the state right now) is if they have enough kids to have two JV teams.

Edit: in school, he's doing well. Says he wants to go to biz school (I'm a terrible parent) and wants to do DECA competitions. Know nothing about them, but he said some girl in his biz club went far in the competition and she said that got her into MIT. I'm sceptical.
 
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He's OK. About 6 weeks ago, I chewed his ass out. Told him he had to pay hard every second he was on the ice, couldn't take a sequence off, needed to hustle or he was never going to compete with anyone. For about 6-8 games, he was really going hard. Had a lot of parents come up to me and ask what had gotten into him, that he looked really improved.

But he's still not as fast or as skilled as the other players. Just can't go one on one with anyone and gets beat to the puck too often. What's frustrating is, I've told him ad naseum he has to practice outside of practice--needs to find stick & puck time (basically open gyms for ice) and tell me when, and we'll go so he can work individually on his skating, shot, etc. But he "forgets" or doesn't do it, so I have to, which pisses me off because this really isn't my dream, it's his. He could be a better skater, if he did what I tell him to do, but he won't listen or it just doesn't sink in.

At this point, the only way he makes the JV team in the fall (which is good, top 10 in the state right now) is if they have enough kids to have two JV teams.

Edit: in school, he's doing well. Says he wants to go to biz school (I'm a terrible parent) and wants to do DECA competitions. Know nothing about them, but he said some girl in his biz club went far in the competition and she said that got her into MIT. I'm sceptical.
Okay I’m going to hit you with some tough love that you won’t want to hear. Just be there to support him and encourage and cheer for him. But don’t push him. Just make the memories fond and positive.

If he has to be reminded about stick and puck etc it’s not in his heart. He’ll be fine even if he gets cut. I grew up on a dead end street. I got one present every bday for about 8 years. The top of the line adidas tango. I literally would wear the cover off the ball. To where the ball just fell apart. My buddy’s snarl’s Texan would tell his kids about it. Not bc it was a good thing just that it meant that you were obsessed with something. Loved it more than anything. Other than kids I’ve never cared more about anything. Practicing alone by yourself is when you actually love and care about it. You should never have to be reminded
 
Okay I’m going to hit you with some tough love that you won’t want to hear. Just be there to support him and encourage and cheer for him. But don’t push him. Just make the memories fond and positive.

If he has to be reminded about stick and puck etc it’s not in his heart. He’ll be fine even if he gets cut. I grew up on a dead end street. I got one present every bday for about 8 years. The top of the line adidas tango. I literally would wear the cover off the ball. To where the ball just fell apart. My buddy’s snarl’s Texan would tell his kids about it. Not bc it was a good thing just that it meant that you were obsessed with something. Loved it more than anything. Other than kids I’ve never cared more about anything. Practicing alone by yourself is when you actually love and care about it. You should never have to be reminded
Knocked the gutters off the side of the house. Twice. Hey, it was really close to the size of a goal.

My dad never got that pissed about it.

@BradStevens - my daughter was the same way. At 12/13 I thought she’d play in college. And she could have. I believe that. But her interest waned and my getting upset with her effort only made it worse.

I finally told her to find something she truly loved and that it probably wasn’t soccer. And that I was completely fine with whatever she did as long as she put in effort. And that she would do that easily once she found her thing.

Still looking (she honestly should be a theater kid) but now we don’t have that tension.
 
Okay I’m going to hit you with some tough love that you won’t want to hear. Just be there to support him and encourage and cheer for him. But don’t push him. Just make the memories fond and positive.

If he has to be reminded about stick and puck etc it’s not in his heart. He’ll be fine even if he gets cut. I grew up on a dead end street. I got one present every bday for about 8 years. The top of the line adidas tango. I literally would wear the cover off the ball. To where the ball just fell apart. My buddy’s snarl’s Texan would tell his kids about it. Not bc it was a good thing just that it meant that you were obsessed with something. Loved it more than anything. Other than kids I’ve never cared more about anything. Practicing alone by yourself is when you actually love and care about it. You should never have to be reminded
Agreed. 100%.

But . . .

Here I am at a rink 30 min away that I made him come to for an open skate. He’ll get bored in 30 minutes and want to leave (even though there are girls here!) and I’ll get pissed.

Screw it, I’m leaving him here and will come back in an hour. Maybe he can find a rink rat girlfriend. Fit figure skater.
 
Agreed. 100%.

But . . .

Here I am at a rink 30 min away that I made him come to for an open skate. He’ll get bored in 30 minutes and want to leave (even though there are girls here!) and I’ll get pissed.

Screw it, I’m leaving him here and will come back in an hour. Maybe he can find a rink rat girlfriend. Fit figure skater.
You need to stop making him. He’s old enough to know what he does and doesn’t want to do for fun. And that’s all it is. It’s not homework
 
Agreed. 100%.

But . . .

Here I am at a rink 30 min away that I made him come to for an open skate. He’ll get bored in 30 minutes and want to leave (even though there are girls here!) and I’ll get pissed.

Screw it, I’m leaving him here and will come back in an hour. Maybe he can find a rink rat girlfriend. Fit figure skater.
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I kid, I kid. Some of my son's most exciting games have been comeback ties, with the final goal scored under 1:00. Good stuff.
I was always told every tie is like kissing your sister. I call bullshit, if you were expected to lose that’s a win in my book. Then again if you give up a goal in the last 1:00 you deserved it.
 
Okay I’m going to hit you with some tough love that you won’t want to hear. Just be there to support him and encourage and cheer for him. But don’t push him. Just make the memories fond and positive.

If he has to be reminded about stick and puck etc it’s not in his heart. He’ll be fine even if he gets cut. I grew up on a dead end street. I got one present every bday for about 8 years. The top of the line adidas tango. I literally would wear the cover off the ball. To where the ball just fell apart. My buddy’s snarl’s Texan would tell his kids about it. Not bc it was a good thing just that it meant that you were obsessed with something. Loved it more than anything. Other than kids I’ve never cared more about anything. Practicing alone by yourself is when you actually love and care about it. You should never have to be reminded
Kids these days have a much harder time growing up than we ever did. The distractions in life are enormous. Social media could not be more of kick in the gut to these kids with the constant pressure it puts on them. Boys, as a general matter, are far more immature than girls. My take on this stuff is that kids know when they didn't play well, or play hard. I tried my best to be postive, but I didn't have to say "you played like dog doo doo today"--they already knew. They want to play well, do well, and look good for their friends. Youth is a wonderful time to make mistakes and grow. My kids trusted me to the point where they know I was a football and baseball guy, but I knew the game of soccer, and they would occassionally ask for a tip or two. They would then go out in the backyard and work on something or to the school and go play on their own or play small sided games with their friends. Point being, they will ultimately figure it out, but I didn't want to take away the joy of playing. Kid 1 started to feel a bit of burn out in his last season this year--4 years of college playing and starting for 3 1/2 years is a lot. I said one thing to him--"I get it, it looks like you are getting burned out". He said yah, "kind of". My response was simple one "you owe it to your teammates and coach to be the same guy you were the last 3 1/2 years." No yelling, no participation trophy, just a matter of fact reality check. He got it.

My wife once gave me a some good advice when the boys were younger "make sure you are doing this for them and not for you". The doing this was the taking them to extra trainings, knocking the ball around in the backyard, etc". She had a point that I needed to ponder. You can't make @mcmurtry66 love an obese woman no matter how hard you try and make him. Square peg in a round hole.
 
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