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Invariably revisionists among Trump apologists throw out the mantra that opposition to Obama had nothing to do with color. They usually do this in the midst of whining about pretty inconsequential "attacks" on the Trump administration, such as the restaurant in Va asking Sarah Huckabee to vacate the premises...

Google is a wonderful thing, when it comes to dispelling outright lies. Here is a compilation of racist incidents that greeted Obama, in the barely 1 month period following his Inauguration. And of course the huge record crowd that attended his Inauguration that still rankles Trump to this day. Might be useful to refer back to this thread the next time one of the Trump acolytes on this board posts about the latest indignity the "left" has heaped on poor DJT... From Feb 2009...

"Even as many celebrated, the election of America's first black president provoked a furious backlash from some angry whites

Barack Obama campaign volunteer Kaylon Johnson was one of the millions of people around the world who celebrated the historic election of the nation's first African-American president. He even opened a shop to sell Obama memorabilia in Shreveport, La., where he lives. But then Johnson learned better than most that racists were anything but euphoric over the president-elect.

Nearly a month after the election, on the night of Dec. 6, Johnson, 33, pulled into a Shreveport gas station behind the wheel of his GMC Yukon adorned with Obama bumper stickers. Wearing an Obama T-shirt, Johnson purchased a soft drink and was returning to his vehicle when he was jumped by three white men shouting "**** Obama!" and "****** president!" The pummeling left Johnson with a broken nose and a fractured eye socket that required surgery.

The attack on Johnson was just one of what likely was hundreds of racially charged incidents around the United States related to Obama's campaign and ultimate victory. Some may qualify as hate crimes, others as offensive pranks and protests. Many involved students — from grade school through college. The incidents began in the days leading up to the Nov. 4 election. A sampling:

A life-sized likeness of Obama was found hanging from a noose in a tree at the University of Kentucky.

The co-owner of a Palm Beach, Fla., restaurant wrote "White Power" on staff memos taped to the eatery's kitchen walls. She told her black employees they would be fired if they voted for Obama.

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Even as Barack Obama spoke of the need for the country to pull together, some Americans were doing their best to tear it apart.
The incidents continued on the night of the election. A black Muslim teenager in Staten Island, N.Y., said he was assaulted by four white men who yelled "Obama." That same restaurant owner in Palm Beach wrote "KKK" on employee timecards. After newspaper reports of her behavior, she blamed her actions on "watching too much Fox News" and "my hot Italian blood."

The day after Obama's victory, rhetoric about history, healing and hope soared. But so did racial rancor.

In Snellville, Ga., a boy on a school bus told a 9-year-old girl that he hoped Obama would be assassinated. That night, also in Snellville, a vandalized Obama sign and two pizza boxes filled with human feces were left on a black family's lawn. Small black effigies were found hanging from nooses in trees in two Maine towns. In Midland, Mich., a pistol-packing member of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan wore his Klan uniform and carried an American flag on a city sidewalk.

"Obama" was spray-painted on a black man's car, which was the
n torched, in Otter Creek Pa. Racist graffiti and an apparent reference to Obama's win were spray-painted on a high school gym and at a local skate park in Kilgore, Texas. At North Carolina State University, four students spray-painted racist and threatening graffiti aimed at Obama, sparking an anti-racist rally attended by 500 people.Township,

In the following days and weeks, reports of incidents continued to pour in. Among them:

Only hours after Obama's election, a predominantly black church in Springfield, Mass., was torched. Three white men were arrested just days before Obama's Jan. 20 inauguration and charged with conspiring to deprive church congregants of their civil rights.

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Obama enthusiast Kaylon Johnson was beaten by men screaming "****** president!"
A sign was placed inside a general store in Standish, Maine, that read, "Osama Obama Shotgun Pool." Customers could sign up to bet $1 on a date when the new president would be assassinated. "Stabbing, shooting, roadside bombs, they all count," the sign said. At the bottom of the sign somebody had written, "Let's hope someone wins."

An employee of a gun-and-lock shop in Traverse City, Mich., flew the American flag upside down because, he said, it symbolized "an international signal for distress and we feel our country is in distress because the ****** got it."


The husband-and-wife owners of a motel in Huntsville, Ark., replaced the American flag flying outside their inn with a Confederate battle flag, saying they did so not because of Obama's race, but rather to protest voters' decision to put a "Marxist in the White House."

A dark-skinned doll labeled "Obama" was hung in a high-school stairwell east of Tacoma, Wash. Five students were expelled.

A biracial student at a high school north of Pittsburgh complained that a teacher's aide said to a student sitting near her that Obama would be killed, that the American flag would be changed to the KFC chicken chain's emblem, and the national anthem would become "Movin' on Up" — the theme song of "The Jeffersons," a sitcom about a black family. The aide also berated her for supporting Obama, the student said. The aide was suspended.

Second-and-third-grade students on a school bus in Rexburg, Idaho, chanted, "Assassinate Obama."

A University of Alabama professor reported that an Obama poster was ripped off her office door. When she put up another one, somebody wrote a death threat against Obama and a racial slur on it.

Federal authorities arrested a Wisconsin man in Brookhaven, Miss., four days before Obama's inauguration for threatening to assassinate Obama in a posting to an Internet site about UFOs and extraterrestrial aliens. Steven Joseph Christopher, 42, allegedly wrote that he "can no longer allow the Jewish parasites to bully their way into making the American people submit to their evil ways."


Neo-Nazi radio show host Hal Turner wrote on his blog that his "inauguration dream" was for somebody to send an explosives-laden aerial unmanned drone or chemical-filled balloons into inaugural crowds. In a follow-up posting, Turner maintained that Obama and congressmen and senators attending the inauguration deserved to die, as did African Americans ("sub-human simians") and liberals ("mentally-ill Whites") in the crowd.

Incidents like these and his own beating go to show "we have a lot of work to do still," said Kaylon Johnson, the Louisiana entrepreneur. Even so, he's not discouraged. He remained elated about the election outcome and the fact that Obama carried his home parish of Shreveport in a state won by John McCain. "We're still on the same high, the same energy level as during the campaign," Johnson said.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-...racist-backlash-greets-president-barack-obama
 
He wasn’t the first black President, He was the first biracial President!
 
He wasn’t the first black President, He was the first biracial President!

Some scholars claim Obama was the seventh biracial presidents with the others being

Thomas Jefferson
Abraham Lincoln Andrew Jackson
Warren Harding
Calvin Coolidge
Dwight Eisenhower
 
Invariably revisionists among Trump apologists throw out the mantra that opposition to Obama had nothing to do with color. They usually do this in the midst of whining about pretty inconsequential "attacks" on the Trump administration, such as the restaurant in Va asking Sarah Huckabee to vacate the premises...

Google is a wonderful thing, when it comes to dispelling outright lies. Here is a compilation of racist incidents that greeted Obama, in the barely 1 month period following his Inauguration. And of course the huge record crowd that attended his Inauguration that still rankles Trump to this day. Might be useful to refer back to this thread the next time one of the Trump acolytes on this board posts about the latest indignity the "left" has heaped on poor DJT... From Feb 2009...

"Even as many celebrated, the election of America's first black president provoked a furious backlash from some angry whites

Barack Obama campaign volunteer Kaylon Johnson was one of the millions of people around the world who celebrated the historic election of the nation's first African-American president. He even opened a shop to sell Obama memorabilia in Shreveport, La., where he lives. But then Johnson learned better than most that racists were anything but euphoric over the president-elect.

Nearly a month after the election, on the night of Dec. 6, Johnson, 33, pulled into a Shreveport gas station behind the wheel of his GMC Yukon adorned with Obama bumper stickers. Wearing an Obama T-shirt, Johnson purchased a soft drink and was returning to his vehicle when he was jumped by three white men shouting "**** Obama!" and "****** president!" The pummeling left Johnson with a broken nose and a fractured eye socket that required surgery.

The attack on Johnson was just one of what likely was hundreds of racially charged incidents around the United States related to Obama's campaign and ultimate victory. Some may qualify as hate crimes, others as offensive pranks and protests. Many involved students — from grade school through college. The incidents began in the days leading up to the Nov. 4 election. A sampling:

A life-sized likeness of Obama was found hanging from a noose in a tree at the University of Kentucky.

The co-owner of a Palm Beach, Fla., restaurant wrote "White Power" on staff memos taped to the eatery's kitchen walls. She told her black employees they would be fired if they voted for Obama.

obama_ir133_0.jpg

Even as Barack Obama spoke of the need for the country to pull together, some Americans were doing their best to tear it apart.
The incidents continued on the night of the election. A black Muslim teenager in Staten Island, N.Y., said he was assaulted by four white men who yelled "Obama." That same restaurant owner in Palm Beach wrote "KKK" on employee timecards. After newspaper reports of her behavior, she blamed her actions on "watching too much Fox News" and "my hot Italian blood."

The day after Obama's victory, rhetoric about history, healing and hope soared. But so did racial rancor.

In Snellville, Ga., a boy on a school bus told a 9-year-old girl that he hoped Obama would be assassinated. That night, also in Snellville, a vandalized Obama sign and two pizza boxes filled with human feces were left on a black family's lawn. Small black effigies were found hanging from nooses in trees in two Maine towns. In Midland, Mich., a pistol-packing member of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan wore his Klan uniform and carried an American flag on a city sidewalk.

"Obama" was spray-painted on a black man's car, which was the
n torched, in Otter Creek Pa. Racist graffiti and an apparent reference to Obama's win were spray-painted on a high school gym and at a local skate park in Kilgore, Texas. At North Carolina State University, four students spray-painted racist and threatening graffiti aimed at Obama, sparking an anti-racist rally attended by 500 people.Township,

In the following days and weeks, reports of incidents continued to pour in. Among them:

Only hours after Obama's election, a predominantly black church in Springfield, Mass., was torched. Three white men were arrested just days before Obama's Jan. 20 inauguration and charged with conspiring to deprive church congregants of their civil rights.

ir133_kaylonj.jpg

Obama enthusiast Kaylon Johnson was beaten by men screaming "****** president!"
A sign was placed inside a general store in Standish, Maine, that read, "Osama Obama Shotgun Pool." Customers could sign up to bet $1 on a date when the new president would be assassinated. "Stabbing, shooting, roadside bombs, they all count," the sign said. At the bottom of the sign somebody had written, "Let's hope someone wins."

An employee of a gun-and-lock shop in Traverse City, Mich., flew the American flag upside down because, he said, it symbolized "an international signal for distress and we feel our country is in distress because the ****** got it."


The husband-and-wife owners of a motel in Huntsville, Ark., replaced the American flag flying outside their inn with a Confederate battle flag, saying they did so not because of Obama's race, but rather to protest voters' decision to put a "Marxist in the White House."

A dark-skinned doll labeled "Obama" was hung in a high-school stairwell east of Tacoma, Wash. Five students were expelled.

A biracial student at a high school north of Pittsburgh complained that a teacher's aide said to a student sitting near her that Obama would be killed, that the American flag would be changed to the KFC chicken chain's emblem, and the national anthem would become "Movin' on Up" — the theme song of "The Jeffersons," a sitcom about a black family. The aide also berated her for supporting Obama, the student said. The aide was suspended.

Second-and-third-grade students on a school bus in Rexburg, Idaho, chanted, "Assassinate Obama."

A University of Alabama professor reported that an Obama poster was ripped off her office door. When she put up another one, somebody wrote a death threat against Obama and a racial slur on it.

Federal authorities arrested a Wisconsin man in Brookhaven, Miss., four days before Obama's inauguration for threatening to assassinate Obama in a posting to an Internet site about UFOs and extraterrestrial aliens. Steven Joseph Christopher, 42, allegedly wrote that he "can no longer allow the Jewish parasites to bully their way into making the American people submit to their evil ways."


Neo-Nazi radio show host Hal Turner wrote on his blog that his "inauguration dream" was for somebody to send an explosives-laden aerial unmanned drone or chemical-filled balloons into inaugural crowds. In a follow-up posting, Turner maintained that Obama and congressmen and senators attending the inauguration deserved to die, as did African Americans ("sub-human simians") and liberals ("mentally-ill Whites") in the crowd.

Incidents like these and his own beating go to show "we have a lot of work to do still," said Kaylon Johnson, the Louisiana entrepreneur. Even so, he's not discouraged. He remained elated about the election outcome and the fact that Obama carried his home parish of Shreveport in a state won by John McCain. "We're still on the same high, the same energy level as during the campaign," Johnson said.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-...racist-backlash-greets-president-barack-obama
So your theory is that all opposition to President Obama (his policies, I presume) was due to racism?
 
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Could it be the country is so divided (color, political parties, income, education, rural v. urban, age, occupations, dogma, religion, and the list goes on) that a president with a high popularity rating is a thing of the past?
 
C'mon, man, you're better than that. No one said all, but it's disingenuous to claim race wasn't a factor behind much of the animus toward Obama.
I’m asking the poster. He did quantify it and the subject line certainly implies “all” in the way it was written.
 
I’m asking the poster. He did quantify it and the subject line certainly implies “all” in the way it was written.
Only if that's the way you want to take the discussion, instead of simply acknowledging that race was a factor in much of the animus toward Obama.
 
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Of course not, but it is not hard to see that a lot of it was.




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Bunch of racist idiots. They’re using some of the same props used by the anti-Bush protesters too. Hanging him in effigy and putting him in stocks were fairly popular. Of course that doesn’t make those protesters racist, just idiots.
 
Only if that's the way you want to take the discussion, instead of simply acknowledging that race was a factor in much of the animus toward Obama.
This is related to a discussion in another thread that mere disagreement in an Obama policy, or criticism of a black politician (Obama and others) by Republican would often result in an accusation (explicit and implicit) of racism by poster from the left side. A couple lefty posters inexplicably deny that.
 
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This is related to a discussion in another thread that mere disagreement in an Obama policy, or criticism of a black politician (Obama and others) by Republican would often result in an accusation (explicit and implicit) of racism by poster from the left side. A couple lefty posters inexplicably deny that.

Here is the problem. The left is so sure that it has the best and only answer for every issue, that to disagree with a leftist about something means you are a science denier, ignorant, an old white guy, a righty bot, a troll, intolerant or just dumb. It isn't possible to disagree with a leftist on logical and reasonable grounds cuz the leftists are the final authority of all that is logical, reasonable and best. With Obama this name-calling expands to racism for obvious reasons. Ignorance of those who dare disagree is magnified cuz, after all, Obama was the smartest person ever to hold that office.

This notion shows itself often in many ways and places. It often shows up here.
 
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This is related to a discussion in another thread that mere disagreement in an Obama policy, or criticism of a black politician (Obama and others) by Republican would often result in an accusation (explicit and implicit) of racism by poster from the left side. A couple lefty posters inexplicably deny that.
I have repeatedly asked for examples of these rampant accusations of racism by leftist posters that supposedly pollute this board. No one has yet stepped up to supply these examples.
 
I have repeatedly asked for examples of these rampant accusations of racism by leftist posters that supposedly pollute this board. No one has yet stepped up to supply these examples.
When you were the boss here, if you didn't see the hundreds of accusations of racism hurled by libs, you weren't doing your job. If you did, you weren't telling the truth. It appeared to be both.
 
When you were the boss here, if you didn't see the hundreds of accusations of racism hurled by libs, you weren't doing your job. If you did, you weren't telling the truth. It appeared to be both.
Blah blah blah. Repeating the same assertion, and still offering no examples. Name a single poster who called you a racist. Link the offending post. Prove your assertion.
 
When you were the boss here, if you didn't see the hundreds of accusations of racism hurled by libs, you weren't doing your job. If you did, you weren't telling the truth. It appeared to be both.

I agree with Ladoga. There have been many accusations of racism on this board over the years, most of them directed at Ladoga. I wonder why that is...:cool:
 
I agree with Ladoga. There have been many accusations of racism on this board over the years, most of them directed at Ladoga. I wonder why that is...:cool:
Ladoga's problem seems to be that he considers conversations about racial motivations among Trump voters to be personal invective directed at him and other conservatives. Meanwhile, he has no problem populating the board with "typical liberals, always..." etc., etc., and he sees no irony in this whatsoever.
 
I have repeatedly asked for examples of these rampant accusations of racism by leftist posters that supposedly pollute this board. No one has yet stepped up to supply these examples.

You called me a racist in a thread where I commented about Kieth Ellison becoming DNC chair. The last time I brought this up you said “prove it.” The thread had been taken down by an unknown mod.
 
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You called me a racist in a thread where I commented about Kieth Ellison becoming DNC chair. The last time I brought this up you said “prove it.” The thread had been taken down by an unknown mod.
The unknown mod taking down posts to cover his falsehoods or lack of truthfulness might just be the one most recently removed from a mod position. Well, maybe.
 
Blah blah blah. Repeating the same assertion, and still offering no examples. Name a single poster who called you a racist. Link the offending post. Prove your assertion.
You did. Rockfish did. Your minions did. No I can't show you the thread. You removed it. But you're gone aren't you? For very good reason.
 
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You called me a racist in a thread where I commented about Kieth Ellison becoming DNC chair. The last time I brought this up you said “prove it.” The thread had been taken down by an unknown mod.
No, it's still there. I jokingly said "Hey, that's kind of racist" to a post you made in a flippant unserious manner, and you got your panties in a wad over it. I'm sorry it still bothers you two years later. If it makes you feel better, I do not, and never did, actually think you are a racist simply because you free associated one black Democrat with another.
 
I have repeatedly asked for examples of these rampant accusations of racism by leftist posters that supposedly pollute this board. No one has yet stepped up to supply these examples.
You’re in deep denial. Usually it’s in an implication such as “conservatives on this board oppose such and such policy of the President, maybe it’s his skin color” or “you support policies to limit illegal immigration of browned skin people. I wonder why.” Toasted once declared ALL Trump voters racist.” I wasn’t one, but we have several here that voted for him and it’s simply ridiculous to make such a claim. The cowardly witless wonder often implies that a Republican motivation for or against a given policy is racism. How many times do posters on your side insert “brown skinned” in their arguments with conservatives on certain policies? It’s countless. So stick to your denial, but those of us on the receiving end aren’t imagining it. At this point it’s a given that one of you will play the racism card in one form or another.
 
You’re in deep denial. Usually it’s in an implication such as “conservatives on this board oppose such and such policy of the President, maybe it’s his skin color” or “you support policies to limit illegal immigration of browned skin people. I wonder why.” Toasted once declared ALL Trump voters racist.” I wasn’t one, but we have several here that voted for him and it’s simply ridiculous to make such a claim. The cowardly witless wonder often implies that a Republican motivation for or against a given policy is racism. How many times do posters on your side insert “brown skinned” in their arguments with conservatives on certain policies? It’s countless. So stick to your denial, but those of us on the receiving end aren’t imagining it. At this point it’s a given that one of you will play the racism card in one form or another.
Pffft. Whatever. You're just saying that because I'm part Polish. :p
 
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No, it's still there. I jokingly said "Hey, that's kind of racist" to a post you made in a flippant unserious manner, and you got your panties in a wad over it. I'm sorry it still bothers you two years later. If it makes you feel better, I do not, and never did, actually think you are a racist simply because you free associated one black Democrat with another.

Two years? I guess I missed that one. Your racist name calling I’m talking about was last year. You werent joking.
 
You’re in deep denial. Usually it’s in an implication such as “conservatives on this board oppose such and such policy of the President, maybe it’s his skin color” or “you support policies to limit illegal immigration of browned skin people. I wonder why.” Toasted once declared ALL Trump voters racist.” I wasn’t one, but we have several here that voted for him and it’s simply ridiculous to make such a claim. The cowardly witless wonder often implies that a Republican motivation for or against a given policy is racism. How many times do posters on your side insert “brown skinned” in their arguments with conservatives on certain policies? It’s countless. So stick to your denial, but those of us on the receiving end aren’t imagining it. At this point it’s a given that one of you will play the racism card in one form or another.
Yelling racism is always a good fall back position when you really don't have an argument. If conservatives had called Obama half the names the left calls Trump on a daily basis the left would contribute ALL of it to racism. I never have or would consider the race of a person in determining whether I supported their policies. That's like supporting a certain baseball then hoping all the minorities on that team strikes out when batting.
 
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Yelling racism is always a good fall back position when you really don't have an argument. If conservatives had called Obama half the names the left calls Trump on a daily basis the left would contribute ALL of it to racism.
Again we're having whataboutism over things conservatives imagine liberals would do. It's impossible to argue with this, except to point out that it's silly.
 
Racism was a factor for a group of people but I think Biden had he won would have faced similar negativity since the GOP was more concerned about their political power then doing what was best for the USA.

Basically, they would have found something else to hate/slime a Democrat for.
 
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Yelling racism is always a good fall back position when you really don't have an argument. If conservatives had called Obama half the names the left calls Trump on a daily basis the left would contribute ALL of it to racism. I never have or would consider the race of a person in determining whether I supported their policies. That's like supporting a certain baseball then hoping all the minorities on that team strikes out when batting.
You're kidding with that, right?
 
And you're full of crap.
Nope. Kieth Ellison was promoting himself for DNC chair in May and June of 2017. In a thread where I commented about that is when you called me a racist, it wasn’t a joke and it wasn’t two years ago. If you remember two years ago then you have called me a racist twice.
 
Again we're having whataboutism over things conservatives imagine liberals would do. It's impossible to argue with this, except to point out that it's silly.
Yep it's impossible to argue with liberals (not all of course) about it because they deny it even when you point it out to them.
 
Yep it's impossible to argue with liberals (not all of course) about it because they deny it even when you point it out to them.
I’m not denying that you imagine misbehavior by liberals. I’m noting that it’s silly to debate what you imagine.
 
It's not imagined..... I see it all the time on here.
Here’s your statement that I responded to:

If conservatives had called Obama half the names the left calls Trump on a daily basis the left would contribute ALL of it to racism.
So your claim is straight out of your imagination about what liberals would do. It’s not just vacuous whataboutism, it’s imaginary vacuous whataboutism. You disregard what’s actually send and done, based on what you imagine liberals would say if the roles were reversed. This would be an irrelevant diversion even if your cartoonish take on the left were valid.
 
I'm confident I've called you a dumbass, but I don't remember calling you a racist. Where did I do that?
I do not keep files of posts from this board. I do not have the documents. I remember you being a raging nasty person who used the race card 2nd only after Jesse Jackson and some of your local nasties. Posters here see you and Goat ad those who serve under your command use ugly innuendo and outright name calling on a regular basis. That you deny it is sicker than sick.
 
I do not keep files of posts from this board. I do not have the documents. I remember you being a raging nasty person who used the race card 2nd only after Jesse Jackson and some of your local nasties. Posters here see you and Goat ad those who serve under your command use ugly innuendo and outright name calling on a regular basis. That you deny it is sicker than sick.
As I thought, you’ve got nothing. Again.
 
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