I disagree. I think wins over quality teams and losses over bad opponents are all that matters, the W's and L's to those teams. They don't take last second lucky shots into consideration, one way or the other. They haven't got the time to analyze past "good team" or "bad team" "W's" or "L's". That said, time will tell. Gone are the days when "Indiana" gave us special preference.
So…now what do we need?
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This is correct. People have closed the door on the tourney, but I disagree that it's closed. Most places I've seen still have us first 4 out. We're not winning at Purdue, so scratch that. But I believe that two wins in the BTT puts us in a position, dependent on what other teams do. I still think there is a reasonable path here.
As Purdue fan that comes in peace, a win over the Boilers gets the Hoosiers in, if that doesn’t happen than 2 for sure 3 Big Ten tourney wins gets IU in. Entertaining game last night, my question would be why are Koop and Stewart shooting late in games, Johnson’s been hot lately, he’s the one I’d want taking the outside shot. Not sure Woodson’s the answer but he has IU playing hard and for the most part they play really good D.
We made it hard fought, just like the Minny game and many other losses this year. As long as these players continue to look at each other as if to say "Is it my turn to step up? Are you going to step up? this team is done. X has done it a few times, Rob, etc., but someone needs to take this team by the balls an will it to win.
Sadly, I just don't think we have players that hate losing, it's as though this is a slightly preferred seasonal job or something.
We are not making the NCAA we have this same discussion every year going into the big ten tourney and we lay an egg every year. You are simply setting yourself up for a massive letdown if you think this group of players has what it takes to win two straight on a nuetral court in the BTT. Heck we have lost four of the last five home games. There is a path but it is not reasonable or even realistic at all imo. This team does not have what it takes to win two staight in the BTT.
This team had five very winnable games and all we had to do was win two of those and we are in. Instead we blew every single one of them. Like you said IU does not deserve the NCAA. We have the talent to be in games til the end but our losing mentality assures we blow every one of them. Heck we almost blew the game at Minnesota. The program is an utter mess and Woodson better spend alot of time trying to figure out what is wrong and fix it fast or we will simply assure we are another big ten bottom feeder forever.
Wisconsin - twice
Ohio State
Rutgers
Northewestern
I'm not setting myself up for a letdown. I haven't had any true hope in years. I'm just suggesting that two BTT wins would probably get us in. We're not that far out of the discussion.
But no, it won't ruin my Sunday if our name isn't called. If it is, terrific. If not, oh well.
Likewise, IU fans are always entertained watching Purdue lose on a last second three point shot that drops.
No we are not but we had five very winnable games down the strech and blew them all. Win two of those and we are in. Now we have to have to go and try and make the semis of the BTT. We have made the semis 4 times in 27 years and not once since like 2008. After we likely get run out of Mackey Arena I just dont see this team putting up much fight vs a team like Michigan.
I'm not happy ..But far from misery..
I thought since early January we're a bubble team..
Many of my IU friends were saying ..Aren't en't they better than last yr ?
My reply was ..You couldn't place a piece of paper between them...
In terms of players, here is what I want.
1. A true point guard Who can handle the ball effectively late in the game. A guy Who has the judgment to know when to pull up rather than go all the way to the basket, and one Who doesn't leave the floor with no idea of whether to pass or shoot.
2. A big man Who can step out on the floor and hit a mid-range jumper and an occasional 3 as the Clock expires. The Dickinson kid from Michigan comes to mind.
3. A true shooting guard or small forward Who can hit an open shot when the opportunity presents itself.
1. A true point guard Who can handle the ball effectively late in the game. A guy Who has the judgment to know when to pull up rather than go all the way to the basket, and one Who doesn't leave the floor with no idea of whether to pass or shoot.
2. A big man Who can step out on the floor and hit a mid-range jumper and an occasional 3 as the Clock expires. The Dickinson kid from Michigan comes to mind.
3. A true shooting guard or small forward Who can hit an open shot when the opportunity presents itself.
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