If he never plays another minute for IU I am good. Wow, he is not a basketball player.
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Archie takes Smith out after he totally lost his man for the easy Northwestern layup; anyone else notice Smith's reaction when Archie asked about the play??? Disrespect; threw his arms out and walked away. Wouldn't play him another second! Oh to see how that would have gone over years ago when IU had a real basketball program.
Yet he’s saving our asses in the final 6 min. He’s such an enigma.
Are you watching the whole game and the season - big deal one little run. The guy is a 8th man at best. Terrible overall.
I’ve watched for 45 yrs. didn’t say he wasn’t frustrating. Just stating fact- without him in the final 6 min, we lose.
Who would you play in front of him? Hunter is shooting bricks and is weak on defense. We have no one better in his role.
We’re stuck with him, that’s true, but there is no “enigma”. He’s terrible.
I like Justin. Yes, he tries some things he shouldn't but the kid helps IU overall.
Don’t win this game without him. This is a perfect example of why you shouldn’t post stupid crap early in a game.
I hate defending anyone who has driven me nuts for 3 seasons. But let’s not get stuck in the weeds. He still put up 18 and 7 tonight and he’s getting crucified on this board. Bad turnovers...hell yes. But still...18/7 and came through in crunch time while others sans TJD were pulling another disappearing act.
I try to refrain from posting out of frustration during the game and tonight I caved. However, my point had nothing to do with Justin's level of talent and/or who we might put in instead. Justin's reaction to his coach during a teaching moment was inappropriate and does not reflect well on his potential (not to mention desire) to accept coaching and/or improve.
It's not about that, it's about the bigger picture. When a player disrespects the coach he should sit, bottom line.
When you play players (no matter what) you get what we're getting right now, sloppy, undisciplined, losing basketball.
Gotta agree with this.
If you don’t have control of your team, you might as well pack your bags. I’d rather lose and guys respect what we’re trying to do than put up with that BS. It better change, or Archie has no chance of lasting in Bloomington.
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Same shit as last year.
But this year, his ass needs to sit. A standard needs to be set on accountability.
But you can’t tolerate the attitude he showed when Miller took him out. That in itself will be more destructive than anything Smith does positively.
I didn’t see this moment on TV. I did see NW players cut to the basket wide open several times tonight. Something in our defensive scheme is seriously broken. Rotations, attitudes, communication...
and I’ve been a big Phinese fan but he’s actually regressed a lot this season. Very concerning.
yet another moral loss tonight.
and I’ve been a big Phinese fan but he’s actually regressed a lot this season. Very concerning.
yet another moral loss tonight.
I'm not exactly sure what he said, but it was clearly disrespectful and dismissive. How the hell Archie tolerates that is beyond me. And to make matters even worse, he sends him out to do the postgame presser. Good gawd Arch. Are you serious?
Jesus christ.
Smith has limited white guy half court skills. He's going to struggle, or not look his best in a half court, slow paced game. He's better this year but, he's not a guy that's smooth around the hoop in traffic like a Jordan Crawford or Victor Oladipo.
He's is really good, elite in transition.
Problem is our guards are garbage and we don't get many transition opportunities.
This is about the 100th time I've had to post this.
He's very similar to Sam Thompson.
Unfortunately on offense no one is even close to pushing him. Damezi and Hunter are still playing like they aren't sure they are good enough (can someone please tell Hunter to drive more. He's the worst shooter I've ever seen).
Smith has limited white guy half court skills. He's going to struggle, or not look his best in a half court, slow paced game. He's better this year but, he's not a guy that's smooth around the hoop in traffic like a Jordan Crawford or Victor Oladipo.
He's is really good, elite in transition.
Problem is our guards are garbage and we don't get many transition opportunities.
This is about the 100th time I've had to post this.
He's very similar to Sam Thompson.
Unfortunately on offense no one is even close to pushing him. Damezi and Hunter are still playing like they aren't sure they are good enough (can someone please tell Hunter to drive more. He's the worst shooter I've ever seen).
Not stupid crap - so he had a couple of good minutes. Didn't change my mind. Maybe you should pay attention to the whole game - why was NW in the game at all? Smith to the rescue? What a crock.
That's something ingrained in their offense. It remains even through coaching changes because ALL of their players are 4 year players, so even when coaches change, they remember it and run it.
Sorry. Didn’t mean to get you all emotional. Take some deep breaths. My advice is to watch the entire game and not post hyperbolic nonsense long before it’s over. It isn’t good for your blood pressure and it ultimately makes you look like a fool.
I saw it live and I didn’t see it the same way. I saw his reaction as frustration with himself and the way he’d been playing at that point, and he should have been frustrated since he had been making dumb plays. I’m a retired senior military officer attuned to signs of disrespect and I didn’t see it as disrespect. Now, if he actually said something disrespectful, I’d change my opinion. I haven’t heard that he did.
But you can always tie a dust rag to each hand and have him jump up and clean the ceiling lights. Saves on maintenance costs.
Things happen in the heat of battle, and a good coach sometimes says things he shouldn't say as well...unless you were in the conversation, you don't know what was said, and you don't know exactly what Justin said or reacted to, but I do know that the kid had 18/7 and no matter what this board thinks, he is one of our best 5 players
Not sure what race has to do with Justin’s half court skills. Perhaps he has just limited half court skills because of his ability.
That is not fair to him. At one time in NW game he was in a rotation that had scored 1 point. Not hard to figure who other team will key on there.
Exactly. They have no idea what he said. Pure speculation and it fits their narrative.
I thought you post “just facts”. You really look stupid posting this garbage. This is 5th grade level crap. I bet if you saw Justin Smith you would turn into little fanboy and run for an autograph. You sure as hell wouldn’t say this crap to his face. Such an internet tough guy....lol. Pathetic.
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