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SCt orders admin to facilitate return of wrongly deported Maryland man

Because a message of inclusion to LGBT is just so awful.

Trump only knows how to be divisive and his defenders only know how to defend and yabbut for it
That dad in the autism thread is a hero. The people Biden Harris were so enamored with are not. Pandering to celebs Hollywood etc

Most of American couldn’t care less
 
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Because a message of inclusion to LGBT is just so awful.

Trump only knows how to be divisive and his defenders only know how to defend and yabbut for it
I don't do identity politics. They are losing propositions and a waste my time. On one hand, none of it bothers me. On the other hand, I'm not interested in creating special days for .03% of the population.

That being said, happy people generally don't do bad things. There is a very secular quote in Paul's letter to the Philippians that says something like "whatever is true, noble, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely or admirable-if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about those things". A remarkable bit of secular insight.

Can we have a day honoring middle-aged, vanilla midget lawyers please?
 
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So if a judge asks you to do something, you can tell him to go to a very warm place? That typically isn't how it is on TV.

But that very warm place is sort of home to lawyers, so it probably is much less of an insult.
True story. A judge held me in contempt once. I represented a college kid who was charged with assault from a fight in a college bar. I had my client and two frat brothers who were witnesses with him. Our defense centered on the complainant being the aggressor.

The court: are we ready for trial?

DA: people are ready.

Me: defense is ready.

The court: Is the Defendant present?

Me: yes.

The court: have him sit at counsel table.

Me: The prosecution will need to identify him.

The court : Have him sit at counsel table or I will hold you in contempt.

I motioned all three of my guys to come to counsel table.

The Court: only the defendant is allowed inside the bar.

Me: The prosecution must identify the defendant.

The court: I find you in contempt.

Trial proceeds, and sure enough, the prosecuting witness could not pick out my client.

Case dismissed.

Judge was pissed but he dropped the contempt finding. The judge was quite elderly, had been on the county court or ever, and wasn’t all there all the time. He retired in less than a year and was not before him again.

The point is just cuz a judge says contempt, the judge might not be correct.
 
Context tho. It’s always relevant bc that was the alternative. Had it been Shapiro etc. not so much. But walz. Mercy. Coh is right
Biden didn't turn Easter into Transgender Visibility Day, they just happened to coincide that year because that day is always on 31 March and Easter fell on the same day that year. Now I think days like that are stupid, but it's an internationally recognized day thing.
 
I don't do identity politics. They are losing propositions and waste my time. On one hand, none of it bothers. On the other hand, I'm not interested in creating special days for .03% of the population.

That being said, happy people generally don't do bad things. There is a very secular quote in Paul's letter to the Philippians that says something like "whatever is true, noble, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely or admirable-if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about those things". A remarkable bit of secular insight.

Can we have a day honoring middle-aged, vanilla midget lawyers please?
I would much rather be with the party supports them than the one trying to marginalize them, take away their rights and pretend their existence is an infectious disease.

If special days weren't created, Hallmark would have to file bankruptcy lol. But yea, if it was up to me, I wouldn't create special days or months.
 
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Biden didn't turn Easter into Transgender Visibility Day, they just happened to coincide that year because that day is always on 31 March and Easter fell on the same day that year. Now I think days like that are stupid, but it's an internationally recognized day thing.
It is amazing what they try to blame on a guy that they claim isn't smart enough to tie his own shoes
 
I would much rather be with the party supports them than the one trying to marginalize them, take away their rights and pretend their existence is an infectious disease.

If special days weren't created, Hallmark would have to file bankruptcy lol
Leave minors alone. Leave adults alone to do anything they wish. No one needs the president celebrating them
 
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I would much rather be with the party supports them than the one trying to marginalize them, take away their rights and pretend their existence is an infectious disease.

If special days weren't created, Hallmark would have to file bankruptcy lol
You can support them by letting them alone and let enjoy the life they have. We don't have to turn 20k personal choices into f***ing holidays and celebrations.
 
It is amazing what they try to blame on a guy that they claim isn't smart enough to tie his own shoes
Isn’t it tho.

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You can support them by letting them alone and let enjoy the life they have. We don't have to turn 20k personal choices into f***ing holidays and celebrations.
Are conservatives leaving them alone? Banning books, conversion therapy, supporting businesses that refuse service.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

I woudn't make special days but I can understand why some use them to shine a light on the plight faced by some. No one is being forced to celebrate or pay attention to any special day anyway. I probably celebrate less than 5% of hallmark holidays.
 
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Are conservatives leaving them alone? Banning books, conversion therapy, supporting businesses that refuse service.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
My daughter’s play was ALEX in wonderland. I’m glad to be done with it. All the grandparents were like wtf
 
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Biden didn't turn Easter into Transgender Visibility Day, they just happened to coincide that year because that day is always on 31 March and Easter fell on the same day that year. Now I think days like that are stupid, but it's an internationally recognized day thing.
Biden (or his handlers) chose to make it a White House event. Not only that he said “transgenders are the bravest people I know”. He hadn’t done as much for military veterans.
 
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Biden (or his handlers) chose to make it a White House event. Not only that he said “transgenders are the bravest people I know”. He hadn’t done as much for military veterans.
lol. Now complaining that he said "bravest"? LGBT used to hide in their proverbial closet so it's not a stretch to call them brave when a large subset of the population is still against their existence.

How many times do we hear sportscasters say a player is the best ever at something. Making exaggerating statements is pretty common place. Talk about a nothingburger.

I wish Trump was so uneventfully awesome that we had time to complain about who he invites to a White House event.
 
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Are conservatives leaving them alone? Banning books, conversion therapy, supporting businesses that refuse service.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

I woudn't make special days but I can understand why some use them to shine a light on the plight faced by some. No one is being forced to celebrate or pay attention to any special day anyway. I probably celebrate less than 5% of hallmark holidays.
I will fight against banning regardless of what it is.

I will fight against denying service to people

I will fight for people to live a life of happiness

I'm not going to lay one finger on the table to help transgender individuals achieve a special significance. If I had a high school daughter, I would not want a converted male in the bathroom or shower with my daughter.

I will treat transgender the same way I treat anyone else--I will hold the door open for you, say thank you, give up my seat, be kind, help you carry something, etc. I am nice until the other person is not nice. I will give you a job opportunity if you are qualified--If I can make money off you, awesome. I treat everyone the same. I will not die on special transgender hill--but there would not be a hill if both sides didn't create the hill and then make it larger. Go back to my original post quoting Paul's letter. Everybody gets a fair shot in my book. Period
 
Biden didn't turn Easter into Transgender Visibility Day, they just happened to coincide that year because that day is always on 31 March and Easter fell on the same day that year. Now I think days like that are stupid, but it's an internationally recognized day thing.

Aloha, the subliminal message in mentioning Easter and Universal Transgender Visibility Day in the same sentence is a reminder about the culture war and which side the two political parties are on.

One side is celebrating Christianity and Easter while the other side is celebrating the existence of Transgenderhood.

By even thinking such a thing only shows how the culture wars have managed to warp my addled brain.
 
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Aloha, the subliminal message in mentioning Easter and Universal Transgender Visibility Day in the same sentence is a reminder about the culture war and which side the two political parties are on.

One side is celebrating Christianity and Easter while the other side is celebrating the existence of Transgenderhood.

By even thinking such a thing only shows how the culture wars have managed to warp my addled brain.
There are solutions

 
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Biden (or his handlers) chose to make it a White House event. Not only that he said “transgenders are the bravest people I know”. He hadn’t done as much for military veterans.
Biden sighs and he does more for military veterans than Trump in his entire existence.

Comical choice of attacks, genius.
 
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So if a non-custodial parent took a 2-year old child and the court ordered them to facilitate a return, the non-custodial parent could say, "I stood by to buy them a bus ticket if the child ever asked" and that would be ok?

Anyone can see the game, the US says,"they haven't offered to return him so he cannot come back" and El Salvador says, "they haven't asked so we cannot return him".
A judge wold never make that ruling. He would issue a court order.

You're putting forth a hypothetical that would never happen.
 
Dan said they complied. You can’t say I helped you take a shit until you actually take a shit.

Make easy or easier is not try to make easy or easier.

You guys are equating facilitating the process of returning with the actual return.

Again Dan’s words.

But I haven’t seen the actual wording so I question if Dan even knows it or heard it from his pet fish.
My pet fish says you don't know shit about it and are clueless. He used Google Translate to 'facilitate' the communication.
 
That the lower court order be obeyed. He can be brought back and tried to have the ban to El Salvador lifted, or sent to a different third world hellhole.

What would we do if we mistakenly sent a US citizen to get them back? Do exactly that. No more, no less.

It is easy to have principles when it is popular. Brad's quoting of Man for All Seasons is when it isn't popular.
He's not a US citizen. Again, not a valid comparison.
 
Biden didn't turn Easter into Transgender Visibility Day, they just happened to coincide that year because that day is always on 31 March and Easter fell on the same day that year. Now I think days like that are stupid, but it's an internationally recognized day thing.
My problem is they get the same amount of recognition as America's war dead.
 
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My problem is they get the same amount of recognition as America's war dead.
Not at all. Memorial Day and that weekend is a real serious thing. Did you hear anything about the international Trans Visibility Day this year, or before it happened to coincide with Easter? I haven’t either.
 
Not at all. Memorial Day and that weekend is a real serious thing. Did you hear anything about the international Trans Visibility Day this year, or before it happened to coincide with Easter? I haven’t either.
No, I didn't. That's not the point. Do you think they deserve the same amount of recognition?
 
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El Salvador has already said he's not leaving. They're not going to put him in US custody.

I've never seen a group of people so willing to endorse the US bullying another country.
You are a hypocrite of the highest degree. You like how the President bullies Canada, Panama, Mexico, Denmark and every country he threatens with draconian tariffs, but asking El Salvador to return a guy they shouldn’t have is bullying? Unbelievable. Can possibly try to be a logical and consistent person?
 
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You are a hypocrite of the highest degree. You like how the President bullies Canada, Panama, Mexico, Denmark and every country he threatens with draconian tariffs, but asking El Salvador to return a guy they shouldn’t have is bullying? Unbelievable. Can possibly try to be a logical and consistent person?
No, actually, I don't and you can't find a single post that has me supporting him on that. I've laughed and made fun of it. I've never been in favor of excessive tariffs, although I do believe in recriprocal tariffs. Making Canada a state, taking over Panama, and making Greenland part of the US is stupid (although I wouldn't mind some kind of Denmark-Greenland-US protectorate) if all parties agree).

You owe me an apology.
 
El Salvador has already said he's not leaving. They're not going to put him in US custody.
You and I both know that it wouldn't take much to change that up a little bit. They are getting paid to take these people. They don't lose a whole lot to just let this one dude be adjudicated. Based off of some of what I have seen there is a greater than 50% chance he goes back.
I've never seen a group of people so willing to endorse the US bullying another country.
Tariffs? Canada as the 51st state? Ukraine to stop fighting? Denmark if they don't hand over Greenland? Little late to be worried about that at this point isn't it?
 
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