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SCt orders admin to facilitate return of wrongly deported Maryland man

I wonder what type of new fangled radar guns the stateys have that can detect that? Seems legit.
Take it up with the Tennessee Star

People get stopped all the time for a traffic violation and other things are found.
 
Dems should 100% let TDS Bill keep this issue alive for them. Made this their number one issue for the next few months

 
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Take it up with the Tennessee Star

People get stopped all the time for a traffic violation and other things are found.

My low tech phone wouldn't allow me that see your original link Danc so I went to the source (as you described it) and downloaded this article:


The key sentence is the last one in the fifth paragraph from the bottom..., which infers that the only "error" in his deportation was the fact that he wasn't deported to a "third country" other than El Salvador... So..., their hero's not coming back under any circumstances...

As the Polish National Basketball team used to say when accused of an uncalled foul:

"Tough Shitski"
 
Keep it alive bill. Don't let this die dems!!



The opposition to President Donald Trump “must go to the mattresses to bring [deported migrant Kilmar Abrego Garcia] home,” says a senior writer for NeverTrump Bill Kristol’s Bulwark media site.

“Bring. Him. Home. Our cause is here; our time is now,” author Jonathan Last declared on April 15, adding:
 
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They live for this kind of BS... Looks like another "Summer of Love" is on the horizon... Being a Paid Protester is now the new hot summer job... The IRS ought to go after the big under the table money for not paying their withholding taxes...

I'm hoping the Dims are stupid enough to keep sending delegations down there... If they behave there anywhere close the way they do up here they may get to see the inside of the prison in question up close...
 
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Keep it alive bill. Don't let this die dems!!



The opposition to President Donald Trump “must go to the mattresses to bring [deported migrant Kilmar Abrego Garcia] home,” says a senior writer for NeverTrump Bill Kristol’s Bulwark media site.

“Bring. Him. Home. Our cause is here; our time is now,” author Jonathan Last declared on April 15, adding:
Another difference between MAGA Republicans and Conservative Republicans is that MAGA doesn’t support the rule of law.
 
So..., their hero's not coming back under any circumstances...
This is just crap. I get you frool at the politics, but he ain't anyone's hero. We have laws. Read the 5th Amendment, "No person shall be... ." It applies to everyone inside the US, it says so in the first 4 words. If the court order allows sending him to a 3rd country, send him to a third country. This isn't rocket science. He was under a court order not to be removed to El Salvador and was.

It has nothing to do with him. The old saying is that I know my rights will be protected by making sure everyone's rights are protected. We made sure OJ's were protected. Heck, we made sure Trump's was in the documents case, the judge could have rammed that through. The guilty and the innocent have the same rights. This isn't the USSR or Nazi Germany where one is convicted before the trial/hearing.

So I don't give a flying F what you think he did. He isn't a hero any more than that b*stard OJ was. But we give people their due process in this country. Full stop.
 
They live for this kind of BS... Looks like another "Summer of Love" is on the horizon... Being a Paid Protester is now the new hot summer job... The IRS ought to go after the big under the table money for not paying their withholding taxes...

I'm hoping the Dims are stupid enough to keep sending delegations down there... If they behave there anywhere close the way they do up here they may get to see the inside of the prison in question up close...
I’ve seen the claim that protestors are getting paid all over social media. Initially I assumed it was just a joke but I asked and was told it was “no joke, they’re being paid.” So I asked who’s paying them and how much, and didn’t get an answer. Apparently, no one knows, but they “know” they’re getting paid.

I’m no fan of protests or protestors, but I’m twice retired and currently unemployed, I wouldn’t turn down some Scotch money just to hold a stupid sign (probably upside down or backwards) while sitting in my lawn chair sipping on a cleverly disguised beer. ;) Do you know who’s paying and how much?
 
This is just crap. I get you frool at the politics, but he ain't anyone's hero. We have laws. Read the 5th Amendment, "No person shall be... ." It applies to everyone inside the US, it says so in the first 4 words. If the court order allows sending him to a 3rd country, send him to a third country. This isn't rocket science. He was under a court order not to be removed to El Salvador and was.

It has nothing to do with him. The old saying is that I know my rights will be protected by making sure everyone's rights are protected. We made sure OJ's were protected. Heck, we made sure Trump's was in the documents case, the judge could have rammed that through. The guilty and the innocent have the same rights. This isn't the USSR or Nazi Germany where one is convicted before the trial/hearing.

So I don't give a flying F what you think he did. He isn't a hero any more than that b*stard OJ was. But we give people their due process in this country. Full stop.
There are two parts of this: the politics and the rule of law. He and MAGA are playing politics. No one likes a terrorist and don’t like illegal aliens either. So they’re going to play those cards even though there is no proof he’s a terrorist and he was in the US legally since his asylum claim hasn’t been adjudicated. In reality it doesn’t matter if he is or isn’t a terrorist or illegal, the SCOTUS said to return him. That brings us to the second part - the rule of law. MAGA doesn’t give two shits about the rule of law.
 
This is just crap. I get you frool at the politics, but he ain't anyone's hero. We have laws. Read the 5th Amendment, "No person shall be... ." It applies to everyone inside the US, it says so in the first 4 words. If the court order allows sending him to a 3rd country, send him to a third country. This isn't rocket science. He was under a court order not to be removed to El Salvador and was.


It has nothing to do with him. The old saying is that I know my rights will be protected by making sure everyone's rights are protected. We made sure OJ's were protected. Heck, we made sure Trump's was in the documents case, the judge could have rammed that through. The guilty and the innocent have the same rights. This isn't the USSR or Nazi Germany where one is convicted before the trial/hearing.

So I don't give a flying F what you think he did. He isn't a hero any more than that b*stard OJ was. But we give people their due process in this country. Full stop.


The Democrats hero is a Criminal Illegal Alien.

Full Stop.

As far as I'm concerned he should have zero "Rights" in our country... (as in None)

Great to see you standing up for a Criminal Illegal Alien gangbanger, who's gang is now a declared Terrorist Organization.

I'd suggest you all go to El Salvador and Protest and see how far that gets you...

Once again as far as his "rights" go I refer you to the "Tough Shitski" rule... He got caught and he got deported to his home country (who, unfortunately for him, doesn't like MS13 much either).

The only mistake made was that he wasn't sent to a third country... If Homeland wanted to attempt to comply with " the rule of law" I suppose they could send him to a privately run prison in Syria.... I'd love to see his supporters attempt to visit him over there...
 
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s far as I'm concerned he should have zero "Rights" in our country... (as in None)
What part of ""No person shall be..." confuses you? We can explain those words to you.

Was your hero Hitler? You sure are copying his beliefs that some people are beneath the law.

They could have sent him to a 3rd country by the law, they chose not to. They chose to violate the law and that makes you happy. I can't wait to see how happy you will be when president AOC decides to ignore the law...
 
Your hero is a Criminal Illegal Alien. Full Stop.

As far as I'm concerned he should have zero "Rights" in our country... (as in None)

Great to see you standing up for a Criminal Illegal Alien gangbanger, who's gang is now a declared Terrorist Organization.

I'd suggest you all go to El Salvador and Protest and see how far that gets you...

Once again as far as his "rights" go I refer you to the "Tough Shitski" rule... He got caught and he got deported to his home country (who, unfortunately for him, doesn't like MS13 much either).

The only mistake made was that he wasn't sent to a third country... If Homeland wanted to attempt to comply with " the rule of law" I suppose they could send him to a privately run prison in Syria.... I'd love to see his supporters attempt to visit him over there...
What's the charge for holding him in prison, 76?

You've long been a dick around here, but when you get someone as typically calm and level-headed as Marvin heated, you've gone into extra-dick territory. I remember the good ol' days when you'd wax poetic about the constitution you went to battle for. I guess those days are over.
 
What part of ""No person shall be..." confuses you? We can explain those words to you.

Was your hero Hitler? You sure are copying his beliefs that some people are beneath the law.

They could have sent him to a 3rd country by the law, they chose not to. They chose to violate the law and that makes you happy. I can't wait to see how happy you will be when president AOC decides to ignore the law...

What part of he's not a U S citizen confuses you...???

You can lose that Hilter shit by the way... I had two different relatives fight that SOB and one was seriously wounded at The Bulge doing so...

Typical Democrat BS... If you disagree with any of their pronouncements you're thoughts are suddenly tantamount to a love of Hitler...

Guess how much I value your a opinion after that...
 
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Pam Bondi today said: "Bondi added: “He’s in El Salvador, and that’s where the president plans on keeping him.”

We can talk about how he was an illegal alien--that's fine, but also had a do not remove order placed on him from a trump appointed immigration judge. The admin claimed he was a gang member--come to find out at the hearing in 2019, it wasn't true. The process matters. If it was determined, n 2019 that he wasn't a gang member, hadn't committed a crime (other his initial entry into the country)-which is what the immigration judge determined, how do you change those facts? More importantly, as we get to 2025 and he's nabbed and flown to El Salvador, the attorney made the representation that it was a mistake to do so because he was not in fact a gang member or anything like that. In EVERY filing in this guy's case in 2025, the government pointed to ZERO facts to support what they are saying now.

If he truly was a criminal or terrorist or whatever bullshit the El Salvadorian President babbled on about, wouldn't you want to that out in the open, have a 2 hour hearing and move forward with it? I think we all know why--this Administration made a horrific mistake that it will not rectify. That is really what is going on.

The constitutional process is paramount. The post hac lies told by the administation today do not operate as nunc pro tunc. And now they are completely disregarding the instructions of the Supreme Court as well as the clarifications offered by the district judge. We have hit the slippery slope given the comments about "now let's do it to homegrowns".

I would also note that nobody is playing the crybaby about the 98% of the other arrestees that were sent to El Salvador. Trump wants to send illegal immigrants out of the country, fine. Send them away after they get due process.
**** no!

Illegals get 0 protection under the law.

All of them, every one......GTFO...
 
What part of he's not a U S citizen confuses you...???

You can lose that Hilter shit by the way... I had two different relatives fight that SOB and one was seriously wounded at The Bulge doing so...

Typical Democrat BS... If you disagree with any of their pronouncements you're thoughts are suddenly tantamount to a love of Hitler...

Guess how much I value your a opinion after that...

GFY
Welcome to my world fellow Nazi...
 
Welcome to my world fellow Nazi...

I don't find that at all humorous.

What is sadly humorous (in a Very dark way)..., is that the party (The Democrats) that routinely uses Nazi tactics to attempt to force others to submit to their point of veiw has the guts to call anyone else a Nazi...

Harassing and intimidating Jewish students; Fire Bombing RNC HQ's and Tesla dealerships while lying about their opponents by calling them "Nazi's", and supporting known criminals... Those are all actual "Nazi" tactics (to just name a few of those that the Dims embrace)...
 
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I hope you don't think taht will change any minds here.

"But Trump......"
No one should be surprised that the Dems are rallying around an MS 13 gang member. Down in Texas they are rallying around the black kid who murdered a white kid by stabbing him in the heart. The kid and family just bought a new Escalade and a million dollar mansion off the money they raised for killing the white kid.


 
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I don't find that at all humorous.

What is sadly humorous (in a Very dark way)..., is that the party (The Democrats) that routinely uses Nazi tactics to attempt to force others to submit to their point of veiw has the guts to call anyone else a Nazi...

Harassing and intimidating Jewish students; Fire Bombing RNC HQ's and Tesla dealerships while lying about their opponents by calling them "Nazi's", supportering known criminals... Those are all actual "Nazi" tactics (to just name a few of those that the Dims embrace)...
...while spending $Billions (borrowed) arming, equipping, and paying AZOV Nazis in Ukraine. See -Stepen Bandera
 
Try to be balanced dude... if this was the Biden admin, you'd be looking for examples to defend keeping him locked up in El Sal.

But no... it's Trump, so you bend the facts. You're inability to look at this balanced is disappointing.

Here's some data:

"According to a Prince George's County, Maryland, Police Department interview sheet shared with Fox News by DHS, local police discovered Abrego Garcia during a murder investigation. Police found him loitering in a Home Depot parking lot with other known MS-13 gang members in possession of illicit drugs in 2019.

Prince George's County Gang Unit MS-13 Intelligence Squad conducted an interview with Abrego Garcia and contacted a "past proven and reliable source" who identified him as an active member of MS-13 with the "Westerns" clique, with the rank of "Chequeo" and the moniker of "Chele."

Go ahead and rip my source... it's what you do...it's part of your playbook... I get it.

But... Fox vs CNN???... what are the numbers? Who are Americans trusting? I 'm stating here Fox vs CNN is FAR more factual. CNN hasn't been credible for years. Fox... biased for sure, but they're not advocating for an illegal immigrant, who's a documented gang member, to be allowed back in the USA... are they?

Think about what you're all advocating for... what the hell are you thinking?
Going after a fellow Republican is amusing but shows you have no clue before tossing accusations
 
What part of he's not a U S citizen confuses you...???

You can lose that Hilter shit by the way... I had two different relatives fight that SOB and one was seriously wounded at The Bulge doing so...

Typical Democrat BS... If you disagree with any of their pronouncements you're thoughts are suddenly tantamount to a love of Hitler...

Guess how much I value your a opinion after that...
Then why support the Hitler wannabe?

And that is less of a stretch than your claim that the guy that was reported is our hero. But it is ok for you to make false accusations apparently
 
He is 100% right democrats need to make and keep this their number one issue for months to come. They must keep this a issue front and center in front of all the voters in the swing states especially.


 
What part of he's not a U S citizen confuses you...???

You can lose that Hilter shit by the way... I had two different relatives fight that SOB and one was seriously wounded at The Bulge doing so...

Typical Democrat BS... If you disagree with any of their pronouncements you're thoughts are suddenly tantamount to a love of Hitler...

Guess how much I value your a opinion after that...
You started with the "your hero" crap, so yes, I went there. You keep demanding we argue the straw man, that somehow others believe he is a great person. That is bullshit and you are smart enough to know it. This has nothing at all to do with him but the law. The law that a 9-0 supreme court upheld. Since you lose that argument you move to the straw man. Guess how much I value your opinion for doing that crap.


It does not matter to the law if he is a US citizen, it says so at the beginning of the 5th amendment. Those words mean "trump" your feelings. You may not want him to have rights, that may be your opinion, but that amendment wins. Are you really going to argue the president has the right to ignore that? If so, when the next D president sends Trump to an El Salvador prison because of some loophole I hope you respect it.

FDR screwed the pooch and ignored due process sending Japanese Americans to camps. That was dead wrong. Today, we can find out if we would have had the courage to stand up to that sort of abuse.
 
This is just crap. I get you frool at the politics, but he ain't anyone's hero. We have laws. Read the 5th Amendment, "No person shall be... ." It applies to everyone inside the US, it says so in the first 4 words. If the court order allows sending him to a 3rd country, send him to a third country. This isn't rocket science. He was under a court order not to be removed to El Salvador and was.

It has nothing to do with him. The old saying is that I know my rights will be protected by making sure everyone's rights are protected. We made sure OJ's were protected. Heck, we made sure Trump's was in the documents case, the judge could have rammed that through. The guilty and the innocent have the same rights. This isn't the USSR or Nazi Germany where one is convicted before the trial/hearing.

So I don't give a flying F what you think he did. He isn't a hero any more than that b*stard OJ was. But we give people their due process in this country. Full stop.
That's the 5th Amendment. Were his 5th Amendment rights violated? I don't remember that being the case.
My low tech phone wouldn't allow me that see your original link Danc so I went to the source (as you described it) and downloaded this article:


The key sentence is the last one in the fifth paragraph from the bottom..., which infers that the only "error" in his deportation was the fact that he wasn't deported to a "third country" other than El Salvador... So..., their hero's not coming back under any circumstances...

As the Polish National Basketball team used to say when accused of an uncalled foul:

"Tough Shitski"
In Russian, it is "Toughski Shitski".

My drill sergeant was asking me what I signed up for. I told him Russian. He said "I only know 2 Russian words: Toughski Shitski". He cracked himself up.
 
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My low tech phone wouldn't allow me that see your original link Danc so I went to the source (as you described it) and downloaded this article:


The key sentence is the last one in the fifth paragraph from the bottom..., which infers that the only "error" in his deportation was the fact that he wasn't deported to a "third country" other than El Salvador... So..., their hero's not coming back under any circumstances...

As the Polish National Basketball team used to say when accused of an uncalled foul:

"Tough Shitski"
Thanks for verifying that. I wonder why it's not being picked up by the national media?
 
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That's the 5th Amendment. Were his 5th Amendment rights violated? I don't remember that being the case.

He was under a court order to allow him to stay in this country or be deported somewhere other than El Salvador. It was taken from him with no due process. No lawyer, no hearing, nothing. Packed up and sent to El Salvador, the very place he was not to be sent. If he had been sent before judges capable of overturning the order, fine, that is due process guaranteed by the 5th. But he wasn't allowed that. As bad as he might be, we gave Charles Manson a trial. Hell, we gave Herman Gohring a trial (a trial he was close to winning). To take that court order away required another court, some adjudication.

As has been noted, they could have sent him anywhere else in the world and not been in violation.

Don't worry Dan, if they grab you up and send you to El Salvador without so much as a hearing, I will complain for you. I am sure it will be as useful as now, but that's just the limitations we are faced with.

We are a nation of laws, not men. The law was he stays or goes to a 3rd country. It isn't hard, the world is a big place. It requires a special kind of incompetance or malfeasance to send him to the one place, a tiny place, that he could not go to. I do not grant the federal government the right to ignore court orders. I've seen a lot of social media posts that Biden should have ordered all student loan records destroyed to accomplish his forgiveness. Guess what, that would have been very wrong. Just as wrong as this is. If Garcia was going to be sent to El Salvador he deserved the same 5th amendment rights all persons have.
 
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