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Roundabouts

Are superior to traffic lights. In nearly all instances. I do live in Carmel though. The unofficial roundabout capital of the world.

Something like a 90% reduction in injury causing accidents. Always work when the powers out. Sure, old people don’t know how to use them and you learn to get ready to avoid out of towners. But, on the whole, better.

However, I would feel guilty without mentioning the sole reason for this post. It’s our love affair with silver Dodge Chargers (or silver Altimas). Objectively the worst drivers, and probably people, in America. I’m picking up dinner because I’m lazy and the wife’s working late. Approach two lane roundabout.

A pause for the uneducated here. By two lanes I mean this

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The blue outside (bottom to top) is straight or right turn ONLY. Inside lane is left or straight. Got it? Good.

Continuing - see commotion to my right as I’m looking left to enter (I’d be entering from stage right in the diagram). Wouldn’t you know it, a silver Dodge Charger is trying to make a left from the outside lane and smacks a Hyundai in inside lane which was trying to proceed straight. Around here, a tale as old as time.

But, our silver Dodge Charger driver? Out the car arms waving, screaming, cussing. I’ve never seen anyone so confidently incorrect since my daughter tried to explain tariffs to me.

TLDR; Roundabouts rule and could be used as an IQ test for most hiring decisions.

Sorry, man.

If I had known it was you, I wouldn't have flipped you the bird. I'll do better next time.
 
Not looking to sell or refusing to see what your house could sell for?
Both.

The comps in 2021/2022 got real dumb real fast. So, yeah, back then I could sell my POS for wayyyyyyy more than it's worth but I'd have to buy again in Carmel. Kid's going to college this year so it frees us up to move about, etc. But now rates are ****ing high and I can't justify going from 3% to 6% on a mortgage.
 
And there are no stop signs or stoplights for them to ignore.
You mean to tell the they don't own the road? Seriously, a lot of them don't want to stop at a stop sign. I've had several times where a bicyclist has almost run into the side of my car at a 4 way stop because they didn't want to stop and were planning on just going on thru whereas I had stopped and was proceeding.
 
Found it. I do not believe the artist intended for it to become a shrine to Men's Health. But here we are. Carmel Fire has a sense of humor.

 
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No obnoxious Scaldes driven by soccer moms?
Do we even consider Escalades to be Cadillacs anymore.

Although, they are getitng into F1 sooooooooooooo, i expect some kind of performance vehicle coming soon. Might be tight, who knows.
 
Both.

The comps in 2021/2022 got real dumb real fast. So, yeah, back then I could sell my POS for wayyyyyyy more than it's worth but I'd have to buy again in Carmel. Kid's going to college this year so it frees us up to move about, etc. But now rates are ****ing high and I can't justify going from 3% to 6% on a mortgage.

Things are up quite a bit from 22.
 
There is no safe way for a bicycle rider to go straight or left in a busy roundabout. The only safe movement is to go right.
Yep, I love roundabouts as a car driver, but at least in FL they are poorly designed for bike riders. Often every lane leading into and out of a roundabout has a bike lane, but the roundabout itself always does not (in FL anyway).

So the options are to
1) ride in one of the lanes within the roundabout, with your head on a swivel;
2) avoid the roundabout for another route;
3) hope that there is a pedestrian crosswalk on one of the streets with a sidewalk to get there, and pretend that you are on foot, which by law you are not, press the signaling button, and hope that the traffic actually yields. Again, with your head on a swivel.
 
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Yep, I love roundabouts as a car driver, but at least in FL they are poorly designed for bike riders. Often every lane leading into and out of a roundabout has a bike lane, but the roundabout itself always does not (in FL anyway).

So the options are to
1) ride in one of the lanes within the roundabout, with your head on a swivel;
2) avoid the roundabout for another route;
3) hope that there is a pedestrian crosswalk on one of the streets with a sidewalk to get there, and pretend that you are on foot, which by law you are not, press the signaling button, and hope that the traffic actually yields. Again, with your head on a swivel.
One of the reasons I now mostly only ride my spinner is because the range of my head swivel has diminished and I can’t hold a line as well when looking back. I used to think keep on doing keeps you keep on doing. That’s not how aging works. Sucks.
 
Why is it funny to better see at a glance what's behind you? There are 10-15 fatalities per year in Palm Beach County due to bikers being hit by cars.

Anything to see better and to be seen better (lights front and back, reflectors, bright clothing, etc.) is just common sense.
 
Why is it funny to better see at a glance what's behind you? There are 10-15 fatalities per year in Palm Beach County due to bikers being hit by cars.

Anything to see better and to be seen better (lights front and back, reflectors, bright clothing, etc.) is just common sense.
Do you have neon, reflective clothing of some sort?
 
No, but I would never ride in a black or gray shirt. I usually wear an orange, yellow, or white cotton T-shirt. Nothing fancy, and no nerdy bike jerseys. For super hot days I have one of those sweat wicking mostly orange golf shirts.
Do you have a flag on your recumbent?
 
Are superior to traffic lights. In nearly all instances. I do live in Carmel though. The unofficial roundabout capital of the world.

Something like a 90% reduction in injury causing accidents. Always work when the powers out. Sure, old people don’t know how to use them and you learn to get ready to avoid out of towners. But, on the whole, better.

However, I would feel guilty without mentioning the sole reason for this post. It’s our love affair with silver Dodge Chargers (or silver Altimas). Objectively the worst drivers, and probably people, in America. I’m picking up dinner because I’m lazy and the wife’s working late. Approach two lane roundabout.

A pause for the uneducated here. By two lanes I mean this

90


The blue outside (bottom to top) is straight or right turn ONLY. Inside lane is left or straight. Got it? Good.

Continuing - see commotion to my right as I’m looking left to enter (I’d be entering from stage right in the diagram). Wouldn’t you know it, a silver Dodge Charger is trying to make a left from the outside lane and smacks a Hyundai in inside lane which was trying to proceed straight. Around here, a tale as old as time.

But, our silver Dodge Charger driver? Out the car arms waving, screaming, cussing. I’ve never seen anyone so confidently incorrect since my daughter tried to explain tariffs to me.

TLDR; Roundabouts rule and could be used as an IQ test for most hiring decisions.

Given roundabouts started in Europe a certain type of American will automatically object to them.

P.S. Our founders included many whose democratic philosophies came from European philosophers. OMG.
 
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Given roundabouts started in Europe a certain type of American will automatically object to them.

P.S. Our founders included many whose democratic philosophies came from European philosophers. OMG.
And then the ones in Great Britain make you go the wrong way.

And then those damn French. They have a different word for everything.
 
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Both.

The comps in 2021/2022 got real dumb real fast. So, yeah, back then I could sell my POS for wayyyyyyy more than it's worth but I'd have to buy again in Carmel. Kid's going to college this year so it frees us up to move about, etc. But now rates are ****ing high and I can't justify going from 3% to 6% on a mortgage.

Get these kids off to school, buy a 3/2 in Little Flower or Emerson Heights for $225k, dominate the Men's League at Pleasant Run after morning meeting/breakfast at Steer In. Then hold court, drink away inheritances at J Clyde's til death.

Who's with me?
 
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