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RFK to HHS

It’s not like he’s ever had a pathogen…oh wait…other than brain eating worms.

This is without doubt, the guy I want telling our families how to stay healthy. No question. Just another part of this clown administration.
 
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Good place to put this. Anyone else see this study? I grew up on…..Golf Club Road. Played golf every day, went out on the golf carts at night. Best friend lives right next to it and her brother has Parkinson’s. I’ve read the study was controversial, so need to read more about it.
 
Good place to put this. Anyone else see this study? I grew up on…..Golf Club Road. Played golf every day, went out on the golf carts at night. Best friend lives right next to it and her brother has Parkinson’s. I’ve read the study was controversial, so need to read more about it.
I hope the authors correctly adjusted for age.
 
If you swim in any body of water, I assume some chemicals exist. But, you didn't address my question.
I’m fine with pesticide labels as long as they’re based on science AND provide information on how to safely use the product. I actively take precautions. Hell, I wear over ear noise protection when I mow the lawn, and you should too.

3M Earmuff https://a.co/d/bxnlO5V
 
I mean, the dude dumped a dead bear in Central Park. How he isn't in an asylum, I'll never know.
And strapped the head of a WHALE on his car. His daughter said when the car stopped, all the juices ran into the car.

I don't know, man. I appreciate his attention on these things, but he is definitely out there.....
 
I’m fine with pesticide labels as long as they’re based on science AND provide information on how to safely use the product. I actively take precautions. Hell, I wear over ear noise protection when I mow the lawn, and you should too.

3M Earmuff https://a.co/d/bxnlO5V

My electric mower isn’t that loud. But it made sense w gas powered ones.
 
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lmao Even your own Party and media are now admitting Biden was mentally impaired.

You should just keep your mouth shut.
Lol . In a thread where you yourself admitted a few posts up that RMK is crazy. Make sense, Danc, make sense. And keep on topic.
 
RMK? lmao Have you done your Medicare wellness check yet this year?
Changing the subject I see since you were being incredibly dull. Gee how could I make that mistake on an Indiana board…. Hard to believe. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself tho….
 
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Changing the subject I see since you were being incredibly dull. Gee how could I make that mistake on an Indiana board…. Hard to believe. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself tho….
Did you really think we were talking about RMK?
 
And strapped the head of a WHALE on his car. His daughter said when the car stopped, all the juices ran into the car.

I don't know, man. I appreciate his attention on these things, but he is definitely out there.....
He’s a nut! 😄
 
Psycho is a better descriptor. I mean who the f$&k would cut off a whale’s head and strap it to the roof of their car?
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Two peas in a pod

The drumbeat for psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy has been growing louder for a while now. Particularly with Veterans.

It’s hardly a fringe position at this point. But you are a reactionary partisan so I understand your need to share this as it makes Means a loon.
 
The drumbeat for psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy has been growing louder for a while now. Particularly with Veterans.

It’s hardly a fringe position at this point. But you are a reactionary partisan so I understand your need to share this as it makes Means a loon.
Um...it's still a pretty fringe position. That's why people like Marcus and Amber Capone and Jesse Gould have advocacy projects to bring it to the mainstream. They haven't had a ton of success yet.
 
Changing the subject I see since you were being incredibly dull. Gee how could I make that mistake on an Indiana board…. Hard to believe. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself tho….
DANC is just mad at you because you don't like gravy.

But even something as egregious as that isn't going to stop Joe from hitting on you. Sorry.
 
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Um...it's still a pretty fringe position. That's why people like Marcus and Amber Capone and Jesse Gould have advocacy projects to bring it to the mainstream. They haven't had a ton of success yet.
So fringe that bi-partisan bills are being put forward in Congress for it. And a couple states have already legalized it for medicinal use.

 
So fringe that bi-partisan bills are being put forward in Congress for it. And a couple states have already legalized it for medicinal use.

You are hilarious. Your own post recognizes it as fringe when you say, "And a couple states have already legalized it for medicinal use."

But, good to know that you think AOC co-sponsoring something makes it mainstream now. ;)
 
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The drumbeat for psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy has been growing louder for a while now. Particularly with Veterans.

It’s hardly a fringe position at this point.
Psilocybin and/or MDMA-assisted psychotherapy for PTSD, severe depression that is unresponsive to SSRIs, and (with lesser validation IMO) for alcohol and drug addiction are indeed active areas of clinical study with some promising early results.

But that has nothing to do with her recommending psilocybin for healthy, well-adjusted people who want to "find love" or "explore a different reality" to give them an ego boost.
 
Psilocybin and/or MDMA-assisted psychotherapy for PTSD, severe depression that is unresponsive to SSRIs, and (with lesser validation IMO) for alcohol and drug addiction are indeed active areas of clinical study with some promising early results.

But that has nothing to do with her recommending psilocybin for healthy, well-adjusted people who want to "find love" or "explore a different reality" to give them an ego boost.
It always starts with narrow use cases before being broadened out. It’s likely effective for generalized depression as well. No different than Marijauna legalization.


You are hilarious. Your own post recognizes it as fringe when you say, "And a couple states have already legalized it for medicinal use."

But, good to know that you think AOC co-sponsoring something makes it mainstream now. ;)
You’re a clown Hoos. States legalizing it is strong evidence that it is no longer fringe.

I agree with AOC in this instance. Is that a problem for you? Am I not allowed to do that?

You hopeless partisans are the ruination of politics.
 
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Psilocybin and/or MDMA-assisted psychotherapy for PTSD, severe depression that is unresponsive to SSRIs, and (with lesser validation IMO) for alcohol and drug addiction are indeed active areas of clinical study with some promising early results.

But that has nothing to do with her recommending psilocybin for healthy, well-adjusted people who want to "find love" or "explore a different reality" to give them an ego boost.
Psilocybin should be administered first before getting people loaded up on SSRI’s that ruin far more lives than they save. I won’t expect you to agree as you are a pharma ghoul.
 
You’re a clown Hoos. States legalizing it is strong evidence that it is no longer fringe.

I agree with AOC in this instance. Is that a problem for you? Am I not allowed to do that?

You hopeless partisans are the ruination of politics.
No one is bigger clown than you, Farva. That's why you are on handle #1,254.

That some states have decriminalized it and approved it for medical research is actually strong evidence that it's still fringe therapy. They are studying it precisely because it isn't something widely tested or understood. Even the Capones will tell you that and there are few bigger supporter of the therapy than them.

I figured even a hopeless moron like you could understand such a thing, but that's what I get for overestimating you.
 
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Nothing to do with pharma, but I have seen SSRIs quite literally save the life of a family member. Recommending taking a schedule 1 illegal hallucinogen (again, when you are otherwise healthy, no depression, no PTSD, no psychoses) over generic SSRIs (in people who ARE diagnosed with depression) and claiming they're "loaded up on SSRIs" is pretty ignorant.

But, that's a you problem.
 
Nothing to do with pharma, but I have seen SSRIs quite literally save the life of a family member. Recommending taking a schedule 1 illegal hallucinogen (again, when you are otherwise healthy, no depression, no PTSD, no psychoses) over generic SSRIs (in people who ARE diagnosed with depression) and claiming they're "loaded up on SSRIs" is pretty ignorant.

But, that's a you problem.
Marijuana is schedule 1. Government classifications mean absolutely nothing. As long as we’re providing anecdotes, I’ve seen perfectly healthy, non-depressed people swear by psilocybin and DMT experiences making them better people.

As general rule I recommend nobody spend too much time ingesting mind altering substances, but infrequent psilocybin therapy is vastly preferable to hiding from life with an indefinite regime of SSRI’s.

Those drugs are evil.
 
Nothing to do with pharma, but I have seen SSRIs quite literally save the life of a family member. Recommending taking a schedule 1 illegal hallucinogen (again, when you are otherwise healthy, no depression, no PTSD, no psychoses) over generic SSRIs (in people who ARE diagnosed with depression) and claiming they're "loaded up on SSRIs" is pretty ignorant.

But, that's a you problem.
Benzos are the absolute worst imo. Helpful short term but very hard to get off of.
 
No one is bigger clown than you, Farva. That's why you are on handle #1,254.

That a some states have decriminalized it and approved it for medical research is actually strong evidence that it's still fringe therapy. They are studying it precisely because it isn't something widely tested or understood. Even the Capones will tell you that and there are few bigger supporter of the therapy than them.

I figured even a hopeless moron like you could understand such a thing, but that's what I get for overestimating you.
Means advocating for them doesn’t make her fringe. Full stop. It’s a therapy that has only grown in adoption and advocacy.

Only a hateful, partisan moron would suggest otherwise, which is what you are.
 
Means advocating for them doesn’t make her fringe. Full stop. It’s a therapy that has only grown in adoption and advocacy.

Only a hateful, partisan moron would suggest otherwise, which is what you are.
I'll chalk you changing your argument up to you beginning to have an inkling of understanding that what you were trying to argue was moronic. Because only a moron would try to argue that the therapeutic use of psilocybin remains anything other than fringe at this point in time.

I advocate for their carefully controlled therapeutic use and even I can recognize that such use and those advocating for it still remain fringe players despite progress made in the last few years.

But, then you are a moron, so it's not surprising that you think that glib, exploitative hucksters like Means are serious people pursuing the subject with any depth.

And which party am I partisan for in agreeing with Crenshaw and AOC about the careful and deliberative study of the value of their use, particularly in dealing with PTSD in military veterans? Hard to keep track of your idiotic arguments.
 
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I'll chalk you changing your argument up to you beginning to have an inkling of understanding that what you were trying to argue was moronic. Because only a moron would try to argue that the therapeutic use of psilocybin remains anything other than fringe at this point in time.

I advocate for their carefully controlled therapeutic use and even I can recognize that such use and those advocating for it still remain fringe players despite progress made in the last few years.

But, then you are a moron, so it's not surprising that you think that glib, exploitative hucksters like Means are serious people pursuing the subject with any depth.
I haven’t changed anything. Noodle incorrectly asserted that advocacy of psilocybin, whether for therapeutic or recreational use, makes Means fringe. I’m in favor of full legalization as its use doesn’t have any externalities that aren’t already present with legal drugs like alcohol. Probably even fewer and non-addictive and less harmful to the body.

As I pointed out. Marijuana is still schedule 1, but it’s advocates for full legalization are not fringe. The glacial pace at which government moves to change things has no bearing on whether something is fringe or not.

But you are a statist and you don’t believe something can be normalized unless government tells you so. Your inability to think for yourself and criticism of people like Means and myself is evidence of that.
 
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I haven’t changed anything. Noodle incorrectly asserted that advocacy of psilocybin, whether for therapeutic or recreational use, makes Means fringe. I’m in favor of full legalization as its use doesn’t have any externalities. That is as compared to legal drugs like alcohol.

As I pointed out. Marijuana is still schedule 1, but it’s advocates for full legalization are not fringe. The glacial pace at which government moves to change things has no bearing on whether something is fringe or not.

But you are a statist and you don’t believe something can be normalized unless government tells you so. Your inability to think for yourself and criticism of people like Means and myself is evidence of that.
You apparently don't understand what statist means any more than you understand what partisan means. You are the one who brought up legalization by a few states as evidence that it isn't fringe, not me. I merely applied your own statist rationalizations to your foolish argument. Apparently, in addition to not understanding what statist or partisan mean, you can't tell the difference between your posts and mine either.

I apologize because I can't quite pinpoint whether I criticize you more because you are a moron or because you are a fool. It's truly a tossup, but what government says has no bearing on the accuracy of it. You and Means deserve each other because you are similarly shallow and without merit.
 
You apparently don't understand what statist means any more than you understand what partisan means. You are the one who brought up legalization by a few states as evidence that it isn't fringe, not me. I merely applied your own statist rationalizations to your foolish argument. Apparently, in addition to not understanding what statist or partisan mean, you can't tell the difference between your posts and mine either.

I apologize because I can't quite pinpoint whether I criticize you more because you are a moron or because you are a fool. It's truly a tossup, but what government says has no bearing on the accuracy of it. You and Means deserve each other because you are similarly shallow and without merit.
Alright put governments aside. Half of Americans support decriminilazation and 60% support therapeutic use. Those figures mean it is inarguably not fringe and I am correct and you are incorrect.

Now don’t be prideful. Reply to this post admitting you were wrong and have a nice day.
 
There isn't a problem with using psylocibin under a doctor's care for a recognized medical condition, likely as part of a clinical trial to understand how and when it works.

But that is nothing like a non-medical quack telling healthy people to seek it out, on their own, in order to find love and to augment your personal reality (whatever that means).
 
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