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RFK to HHS

Well hell then, I’m hooked on Speedway pizza and Red Bull but RFK Jr wants to shame and blame me for a poor diet.
I always had you pegged as more of a roller dog guy.

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Bernie appears to be arguing that he doesn't accept money from companies, only individuals.

If he's correct, but those individuals work in the industry, should that count as accepting money from Big Pharma? I don't think so.
Companies pressure people to contribute to politicians all the time. I experienced it when I worked there. And they keep track of it, too. If you want to keep your job and/or move up, you know the right politician to contribute to.
 
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RFK2 is a bad person, a bad husband, a bad father, a bad presidential candidate, a bad cabinet nominee...and will be a bad HHS Secretary.
The New York Post (yes, the NEW YORK POST, the reliably MAGA publication) says RFK Jr. is unfit to be HHS Secretary.

 
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No medical training whatsoever
No large organization managerial experience whatsoever
Track record of expressing truly unhinged views in public, such as calling for ending funding for ALL research on antibacterials, antivirals, etc, NOT just vaccines; plus denying truth such as this
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Habitual liar in denying expressing such views, repeatedly, and even under oath
11th hour change of heart, embracing vaccines
Left wing political stances on many issues, such as abortion

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Trump wants him!
 
I'd love to hear a Republican explain why a life-long far left (moonbat) whacky radically pro-choice Democrat and conspiracy theorist who has zero qualifications for the job (other than being a US citizen) should be confirmed as HHS Secretary for a Republican administration.
 
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I'd love to hear a Republican explain why a life-long far left (moonbat) whacky radically pro-choice Democrat and conspiracy theorist who has zero qualifications for the job (other than being a US citizen) should be confirmed as HHS Secretary for a Republican administration.
It’s very simple. As Gupta on cnn opined he’s the only one out there calling to disrupt the status quo. Food production. Drugs. Fda. Relationship between agencies and corps. He’s desperately needed. Perhaps more than any other appointment. But unfortunately he himself is bad. It’s a shame someone else isn’t carrying the charge instead of him
 
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The New York Post (yes, the NEW YORK POST, the reliably MAGA publication) says RFK Jr. is unfit to be HHS Secretary.


They're right, of course.

But it's probably a fait accompli at this point. It looks pretty likely that RFK, Patel, and Gabbard are going to pass.

FWIW, based on what I've seen, if I was a Senator, I'd be voting against RFK and Patel, and for Tulsi Gabbard. I'm skeptical about her relevant experience. But I think she handled herself well in the hearings and this whole "she belongs to Putin" stuff is really off-putting to me.
 
I'd love to hear a Republican explain why a life-long far left (moonbat) whacky radically pro-choice Democrat and conspiracy theorist who has zero qualifications for the job (other than being a US citizen) should be confirmed as HHS Secretary for a Republican administration.
We voted to have big pharma burned to the ground. That is why.
 
Preferable would be an agent of change with the actual training, experience, and intelligence to realize WHAT needs to be changed, how to change it, and what needs to be preserved. And... not a moonbat.
 
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We voted to have big pharma burned to the ground. That is why.
Near 0% of medical research funding goes to big pharma.

(edit) There are a few small business grants to biotech startups, called "SBIR" and "STTR" grants, usually spun out of academic labs founded on an idea or in an area that big pharma won't touch. Such as Alzheimer's. All of big pharma except perhaps Lilly abandoned AD research after multiple expensive clinical trial failures driven by the idea of reducing amyloid plaques. Works great in rodents but not in people.
 
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Preferable would be an agent of change with the actual training, experience, and intelligence to realize WHAT needs to be changed, how to change it, and what needs to be preserved. And... not a moonbat.
I don’t think that’s hard to figure out. Finding someone outside who wants to change it appears to be the lasting problem
 
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We voted to have big pharma burned to the ground. That is why.

Other than cope, salve and bluster, what exactly is the upshot of this? What does it mean...in practical terms?

Should we expect Pfizer, AbbVie and J&J to be literally burned to the ground? I assume not. So, what does the figurative "burn to the groun" look like? And why should we receive it as a good thing?
 
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Other than cope, salve and bluster, what exactly is the upshot of this? What does it mean...in practical terms?

Should we expect Pfizer, AbbVie and J&J to be literally burned to the ground? I assume not. So, what does the figurative "burn to the groun" look like? And why should we receive it as a good thing?
He doesn’t know. It’s just fun. Like riot mentality
 
I cannot believe that this guy is going to be confirmed. Stunned, given his views on things held sacred by most Republicans.

It's not your father's Republican Party. It's not even your older brother's Republican Party.

The GOP doesn't really have a coherent ideology right now. And that stands to reason: Donald Trump is not an ideologue. There are still lots and lots of conservatives who identify as Republicans. But the party leadership makeup isn't well reflective of that. And it's not just RFK.

I almost hate to use this word. But I think it's more accurate to describe the GOP as (soft) "revolutionary"...its primary motivating idea being to knock down "the system" as it exists.
 
It's not your father's Republican Party. It's not even your older brother's Republican Party.

The GOP doesn't really have a coherent ideology right now. And that stands to reason: Donald Trump is not an ideologue. There are still lots and lots of conservatives who identify as Republicans. But the party leadership makeup isn't well reflective of that. And it's not just RFK.

I almost hate to use this word. But I think it's more accurate to describe the GOP as (soft) "revolutionary"...its primary motivating idea being to knock down "the system" as it exists.
I'm not so sure that it was ever what I thought it was.
 
I'd love to hear a Republican explain why a life-long far left (moonbat) whacky radically pro-choice Democrat and conspiracy theorist who has zero qualifications for the job (other than being a US citizen) should be confirmed as HHS Secretary for a Republican administration.
He shouldn’t be confirmed but the reasoning would be what he called “radical transparency”
 
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RFK2 is a bad person, a bad husband, a bad father, a bad presidential candidate, a bad cabinet nominee...and will be a bad HHS Secretary.
And he skipped out on paying for his catering bills in Brown County when he got married to his first wife in Bloomington.

I wonder if Trump nominated him, thinking he probably wouldn't get approved, like Gaetz. Maybe Hegseth (whom I like as Sec of Def) and Tulsi. All big supporters who he wanted rewarded, but maybe thinking they wouldn't make it?

Or maybe he thought RFJ Jr just wouldn't do much harm being over the HHS.
 
They're right, of course.

But it's probably a fait accompli at this point. It looks pretty likely that RFK, Patel, and Gabbard are going to pass.

FWIW, based on what I've seen, if I was a Senator, I'd be voting against RFK and Patel, and for Tulsi Gabbard. I'm skeptical about her relevant experience. But I think she handled herself well in the hearings and this whole "she belongs to Putin" stuff is really off-putting to me.
You don't think Patel has experience? What's your beef against him?
 
I'm not so sure that it was ever what I thought it was.
After FDR, Republicans were in the minority of virtually every Congress and they used to take principled stands and get hammered by the Democrats and media for it. So, they basically went along to get along.

Then Reagan happened and he was also considered a non-traditional Republican. He was a union organizing Democrat before he saw the light.

Since, and because of Reagan, the Republican Party has evolved to a more non-ideological Party and is willing to be led by someone who can get things done, even if they don't always 100% agree them.

I love the idea we're getting people in there who are willing to shake things up and stop our not-so-slow slide toward Socialism (as if we're not almost there anyway). Leftists will laugh, but our Revolution was fought because of our frustration that we weren't being heard in England. Same thing today - the public sees things like the national debt and wonder why no one is concerned or doing anything about it.

The bogus lawfare against Trump turned public opinion around. Without that, I'm not sure we'd have seen another Trump Presidency.
 
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