Reneau Hurt / Out?
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Kind of ridiculous that you expect us to believe that you saw something different than virtually anyone else saw. I was at the game on the opposite side of the floor and I saw him “pop up” after about 1-2 minutes and walk, under his own power with no discernible limp, off the floor and to the locker room. Never saw him almost fall down.
Yes, he could vastly improve passing out of the post.
Some of the highest % 3ptA’s should be off of offensive rebounds, fwiw. In a perfect world he would be passing out of the post to the perimeter, and off of offensive rebounds
"Fall down" might be too far...(technically, I said "almost fell") but yeah..maybe harsh. He stopped mid-step, on the way to the locker room, and grimaced. That typically means cartilage(meniscus). It isn't a constant issue, but can change, and be an issue at any time. It makes your knee feel weak, and as if it's going to give out, or lock up. I hope he fine,and that I'm wrong to speculate, but you don't typically have your leading scorer sit when you think everything is OK. Js
I'm not a super sleuth wanna-be. This "stop and grimace" was on the peacock broadcast. FYI
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It's kind of super sleuthy, unless you're a Dr. I've torn my meniscus once. I've stopped and grimaced after lower leg injuries probably 3 -5 dozen times.
I have had both ACL's done...and a total of 5 knee surgeries. I have some first hand knowledge. Also...I said I wasn't being a super sleuth...because they literally said he had to stop because of pain on the way to the locker room, on the broadcast.
I had a shoulder and an elbow tendon done but never a knee. I broke a bone in my foot and went to ER for an x-ray. There was one other patient in the ER and to my misfortune it was a guy injured playing rugby. I had to sit there for an hour or so listening to him recap all his rugby injuries through the years and he was very proud of each of them.
so, what is it in stopping and grimmacing from a pain in your knee that "typically" means it's a meniscus tear/injury? As I said, I've done that dozens of times, but only ever torn my meniscus once. Any football or bball game I watch, I generally see a couple times a game where someone stops and clutches their knee, but don't think that means a meniscus injury. It usually means their knee hurts.
Lol...so obviously this is strictly because you want to argue. "It usually means their knee hurts".... does that happen for no reason? Also...I said "I hope I'm wrong for speculating"...and also mentioned it could be an mcl sprain. If you watched the game, you saw it happend because of Goode falling into him. Very easily could have torn or partially torn cartilage on that impact. It could also just be a bruise, but they also obviously were concerned enough by watching what happened, and his reaction, to determine that sitting their leading scorer, after 20 seconds of a conference game, was best. I don't think that happens if they genuinely think it only "means that his knee hurts". Smh....Go wake up your partner if you want to argue about what any realistic person can see is a real possibility. My left ACL surgery revealed 7 different cartilage tears...it's not always a serious injury, and doesn't mean he would have to miss significant time. Educate yourself a little before you start talking about topic that shows your ignorance, to a person who doesn't possess the same ignorance. You will look less.....silly.
Our defense is potentially better without him playing. And the ball movement might continue to be better without him. But I don’t think our offense ends up better without him. I think the lower ball movement is more than offset by his own abilities to finish and score.
My biggest hope right now… the defense and ball movement are A LOT better today, and that leads to much improved play. AND Woodson really takes that to heart. And effectively incorporates Malik back in to that improved approach when he’s healthy. It’s an absurd thought to think someone as talented as Malik shouldn’t be a huge part of our efforts and plans.
I feel pretty solid in my stance versus someone who diagnoses a cartilege or meniscus injury because they saw someone on TV pause and grimace when their knee hurts. Could it be a cartilege or meniscus injury? Certainly. Does it usually mean that? Nope.
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Announcers predictably said it wasn’t anything structural, and he’d be back “soon”. If you’ve played, or followed bball and paid attention to these sorts of things…that was an easy prediction based off how Reneau reacted, and how the IU medical staff handled it.
Yeah, guessing deep bone bruise which is immensely painful. Need him back next week.
I didn't see that. They mentioned it on the broadcast. I saw the initial injury...and saw his reaction. Having some fairly in depth knowledge about knee injuries, is what made me think it was something to think about.
Ps...what do you know...Reneau will be out for a little while. Probably just because his knee "hurts"...smh
What does your "PS" even mean? And why was it necessary?
Not one person on this board said he'd be back immediately. And there isn't any new information that is saying he's going to be out for a "long" time.
The only information we seem to have, is that there isn't any structural damage. Good. I, and others, said that the injury wasn't "serious" after seeing how he reacted, and then how the IU docs handled him that day. And its a more than reasonable take, now, that I was right. If he misses a few games and comes back in a week or two, that's great for IU. A lot better than it could have been at first glance when the injury happened. And by most, wouldn't then be deemed to have been a "serious" injury.
And if you would pay attention, you would have seen that I also said, even if it is torn cartilage...it doesn't necessarily mean it's serious. I was replying mainly to the guy who told me that there's no injury, but that his "knee just hurts".
Missed that one. You spent most of your posts jumping on posters that made any reference at all to the injury not likely being serious.
Anyone that said there wasn't an injury, and his knee just hurt, is an idiot.
Well, if your knee hurts, there's an injury. It's just a matter of how serious it is.
I guess technically yes.
But I've always lived under the old school thoughts of: "Are you injured? Or are you hurt?" A sprained MCL, or a deeper bone bruise, is an actual injury, in every sense of those word... to me. A surface bruise, maybe a really mild sprain, that's being "hurt".
Maybe that's what some are referring to here...but Malik has shown that he'll play through pain in his time at IU. I think he's earned the benefit of the doubt on this one. He has a legit injury that he needs to sit right now, I'm sure. Or he'd be playing.
