Who are reasonable moderate or little left of moderate a majority of Americans could elect as President? Not the AOC and Crockett crowd.
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Governor of Kentucky Andy Beshear and Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro are my two favorites.
Never happen, but I'd love these two to run together. Both young. Bring some sanity back to this country...both sides.
I agree on both. How can they get out front ahead of the far left extremists that’s running the narrative right now?
Sadly I'm not sure they can. I saw a poll ylthe other day and both barely registered. We are our own worst enemy in this country. Guessing Dems will roll out AOC or Kamala sadly.
I'd take Pete over those two
I attended a groundbreaking last week that Gov. Beshear headlined. Talked to him for a couple minutes, but nothing more than the surfacy talk that is typical with pols at these kinds of events.
I would hate being a politician and having to go to countless events like these, give the boilerplate speech, shake a hundred hands, take a hundred pictures, and pretend that you're interested in anything other than getting out of there as quickly as possible.
That said...I do think that Beshear has been a terrific governor and would be a very good option for Dems. Same with Shapiro. He's always impressed me.
Pete had a chance to distinguish himself during Covid. He wasn’t good.
I wouldn't say that the far left is running the Dems' narrative -- if by that you mean Sanders, AOC, etal. They're competing for it -- and clearly have more cachet than they had in the Clinton and Obama eras. But I don't think it's right that they've grabbed the party's gavel.
Biden's obviously off the stage now. But let's not forget that he was about as representative of the center-left DC/Dem establishment as somebody could be. In fact, that's probably what made him the consensus choice in the 2020 primary.
After recovering from his stroke he’s been pretty good at his job. I am okay with the Hoodie deal sometimes. Lol. There’s a time to wear a suit and tie.
He’s a socialist that loves Israel and is willing to talk to Republicans. Doesn’t make him a moderate.
The correct answer to this thread is Rahm Emanuel. You can tell he’s a moderate because most Democrats hate him.
The hoodie and all that aside, I'm not sure I can remember a recent politician who so quickly went from left-wing darling/right-wing scourge to almost the precise opposite position as Fetterman has.
The left swooned over him in the 2022 election -- favoring him over the more centrist Conor Lamb. And I could understand why. He ran a pretty populist campaign. Since then, there's even been a not-so-subtle push to get him to resign for health reasons -- which is funny, because the right was arguing that he should've stepped aside during the campaign.
It goes to show just how disingenuous politics really is. Nobody who has made an issue of his health actually cares about the impact that has on his ability to do the job.
i was incredibly unkind about him prior to his election. still way too left for me but he's a breath of fresh air imo. i hope he carries on and his health stabilizes
He can never win with the chin beard.
If he went back to the moustache, no one could stop him.
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Moderate Democrats, often associated with the New Democrats or centrist faction, are a group within the Democratic Party who favor a more centrist approach to politics, balancing social liberalism with fiscal responsibility. They often advocate for Third Way politics, which emphasizes pragmatism and bipartisan cooperation.
Key Characteristics of Moderate Democrats:
Moderate Democrats, often associated with the New Democrats or centrist faction, are a group within the Democratic Party who favor a more centrist approach to politics, balancing social liberalism with fiscal responsibility. They often advocate for Third Way politics, which emphasizes pragmatism and bipartisan cooperation.
Key Characteristics of Moderate Democrats:
- Cultural Liberalism:
Generally hold socially liberal views on issues like abortion rights, LGBTQ+ rights, and environmental protection.
- Fiscal Conservatism/Pragmatism:
Tend to favor balanced budgets, fiscal responsibility, and policies that promote economic growth while ensuring a safety net for those in need.
- Bipartisan Approach:
Often seek common ground and compromise with Republicans on policy issues, prioritizing practical solutions over ideological purity.
- Examples:
Historically, this faction includes figures like Bill Clinton and his supporters. The New Democrat Coalition in the House and the Blue Dog Coalition (though it has moved slightly left in recent years) represent this wing of the party, according to Wikipedia.
- Some senators who have been identified as moderates include Jon Tester, Chris Coons, Tom Carper, and Angus King, according to NPR.
- Sens. Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema are also often cited as examples of moderate Democrats, particularly for their stances on issues like the filibuster and spending bills.
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the dems are so dumb. they're literally spending tens of millions of dollars trying to figure out why men don't like them and what to do. rolling walz's creepy ass out. hmmmmmmm what coudl they possibly do
The woman behind him can't even keep a smile off her face and she can't even see the moustache. She just feels its presence in the room and knows everything is going to be all right.the dems are so dumb. they're literally spending tens of millions of dollars trying to figure out why men don't like them and what to do. rolling walz's creepy ass out. hmmmmmmm what coudl they possibly do
I'm thinking about writing a letter to Fetterman to encourage him to switch back.
Please word it as follows: "I mustache you to change your facial hair."
Democrats have plenty of time to find a reasonable and moderate candidate for president. Furthermore, it could be current sleeper such as Seth Moulton who is a Congressman from Massachusetts.
Granted he took a brief whirl in running for Prez in 2020. This only tells me he is interested. So, he has some fire in the belly for the job.
Granted he took a brief whirl in running for Prez in 2020. This only tells me he is interested. So, he has some fire in the belly for the job.
Hoot you are a sweet man which is why you can’t recognize a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
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we'll be cooked. we'll go to el salvador if that happens. we'll have a big bundle of bit by then and they take it everywhere. won't be easy in the beginning. couple of gringos. but we'll buy protection
We'll be fine. People love tall handsome gringos everywhere in the world.
Bashear lost me with this.
Kentucky’s $42m Ibogaine Funding Appears Dead in the Water - Psychedelic Alpha
Those who support cleaving off $42 million in opioid settlement funds to support ibogaine research and drug development have lost a key champion this week as the Kentucky Opioid Abatement Advisory…
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yeah that's stupidBashear lost me with this.
Kentucky’s $42m Ibogaine Funding Appears Dead in the Water - Psychedelic Alpha
Those who support cleaving off $42 million in opioid settlement funds to support ibogaine research and drug development have lost a key champion this week as the Kentucky Opioid Abatement Advisory…
So you support the state paying for ibogaine research? That sounds unusual for a conservative.Bashear lost me with this.
Kentucky’s $42m Ibogaine Funding Appears Dead in the Water - Psychedelic Alpha
Those who support cleaving off $42 million in opioid settlement funds to support ibogaine research and drug development have lost a key champion this week as the Kentucky Opioid Abatement Advisory…
No. That money should stay in state. Be used for treatment. Fund addiction centers tele med etc. drug ct. abatement treatment today. they already have suboxone etc. use these monies now in ky. Not research
My reading was that Beshear is not allowing the research. Where is the money quote in that which indicates I am wrong?
Frankly, at this point in history the Dems probably need a middle aged white male as their guy in 2028. Their past 4 candidates were a black middle aged man, a white elderly woman, a white elderly man, and a black/Indian middle aged woman. In 2028 it’ll be 28 years since they’ve run a white middle aged man. The time is right, especially now since there are a couple who can appeal to both parties.
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