Post Michigan Therapy

[Fred C. Dobbs]

After watching IU at Michigan, I wanted to watch a game with a better outcome. So I queued up IU at Notre Dame from 1996-1997. IU won 76-75, again!

Neil Reed was the starting point guard on that team in his junior year. Other significant players were Collier, Guyton, Patterson and the never to be forgotten Haris Mujezinovic.

While watching I was reminded what an accomplished basketball player Reed was: offense, defense, playmaking, hustle, basketball IQ. He was a player that had always wanted to play for IU and would be a significant contributor on any IU team.

The only thing he did wrong was to run into an RMK chokehold. For this he was vilified by IU nation, run out of Bloomington and partially blamed for getting RMK sacked. Furthermore in the ESPN film, The Last Days of Knight, the producer reported that either IU or RMK (I forget which) leaked the disinformation that Reed “was a cancer on the southern Mississippi team “, which Southern Mississippi denies.

I offer that the behavior of IU and IU nation was nothing short of disgraceful. Reed was a player that we should honor and respect. There is no resolution to the issue since Reed is deceased, but I always vote for honorable over dishonorable.

 

[SIhoosier26]

After watching IU at Michigan, I wanted to watch a game with a better outcome. So I queued up IU at Notre Dame from 1996-1997. IU won 76-75, again!

Neil Reed was the starting point guard on that team in his junior year. Other significant players were Collier, Guyton, Patterson and the never to be forgotten Haris Mujezinovic.

While watching I was reminded what an accomplished basketball player Reed was: offense, defense, playmaking, hustle, basketball IQ. He was a player that had always wanted to play for IU and would be a significant contributor on any IU team.

The only thing he did wrong was to run into an RMK chokehold. For this he was vilified by IU nation, run out of Bloomington and partially blamed for getting RMK sacked. Furthermore in the ESPN film, The Last Days of Knight, the producer reported that either IU or RMK (I forget which) leaked the disinformation that Reed “was a cancer on the southern Mississippi team “, which Southern Mississippi denies.

I offer that the behavior of IU and IU nation was nothing short of disgraceful. Reed was a player that we should honor and respect. There is no resolution to the issue since Reed is deceased, but I always vote for honorable over dishonorable.

 

[kkott]

After watching IU at Michigan, I wanted to watch a game with a better outcome. So I queued up IU at Notre Dame from 1996-1997. IU won 76-75, again!

Neil Reed was the starting point guard on that team in his junior year. Other significant players were Collier, Guyton, Patterson and the never to be forgotten Haris Mujezinovic.

While watching I was reminded what an accomplished basketball player Reed was: offense, defense, playmaking, hustle, basketball IQ. He was a player that had always wanted to play for IU and would be a significant contributor on any IU team.

The only thing he did wrong was to run into an RMK chokehold. For this he was vilified by IU nation, run out of Bloomington and partially blamed for getting RMK sacked. Furthermore in the ESPN film, The Last Days of Knight, the producer reported that either IU or RMK (I forget which) leaked the disinformation that Reed “was a cancer on the southern Mississippi team “, which Southern Mississippi denies.

I offer that the behavior of IU and IU nation was nothing short of disgraceful. Reed was a player that we should honor and respect. There is no resolution to the issue since Reed is deceased, but I always vote for honorable over dishonorable.

o f*ck.... the last thing I need is a Neil Reed thread after a frustrating loss like yesterday. If that's therapy for you, can't you just get a pair of pliers and pluck out your toenails like any self-respecting sadist would?

 

[Harry Hondo]

After watching IU at Michigan, I wanted to watch a game with a better outcome. So I queued up IU at Notre Dame from 1996-1997. IU won 76-75, again!

Neil Reed was the starting point guard on that team in his junior year. Other significant players were Collier, Guyton, Patterson and the never to be forgotten Haris Mujezinovic.

While watching I was reminded what an accomplished basketball player Reed was: offense, defense, playmaking, hustle, basketball IQ. He was a player that had always wanted to play for IU and would be a significant contributor on any IU team.

The only thing he did wrong was to run into an RMK chokehold. For this he was vilified by IU nation, run out of Bloomington and partially blamed for getting RMK sacked. Furthermore in the ESPN film, The Last Days of Knight, the producer reported that either IU or RMK (I forget which) leaked the disinformation that Reed “was a cancer on the southern Mississippi team “, which Southern Mississippi denies.

I offer that the behavior of IU and IU nation was nothing short of disgraceful. Reed was a player that we should honor and respect. There is no resolution to the issue since Reed is deceased, but I always vote for honorable over dishonorable.

I agree. IU and Knight made it sound as if Reed was a pre-Madonna who just wanted publicity, but Reed never revealed any evidence to support that claim. His actions after he left IU were humble.

The more distance we get from the Knight years the lower he gets on my respect meter. I know he’s done some good things, but he’s also a bitter fool who will try to ruin someone (or institution) if he feels he’s been wronged.

 

[gator mcCluskey]

After watching IU at Michigan, I wanted to watch a game with a better outcome. So I queued up IU at Notre Dame from 1996-1997. IU won 76-75, again!

Neil Reed was the starting point guard on that team in his junior year. Other significant players were Collier, Guyton, Patterson and the never to be forgotten Haris Mujezinovic.

While watching I was reminded what an accomplished basketball player Reed was: offense, defense, playmaking, hustle, basketball IQ. He was a player that had always wanted to play for IU and would be a significant contributor on any IU team.

The only thing he did wrong was to run into an RMK chokehold. For this he was vilified by IU nation, run out of Bloomington and partially blamed for getting RMK sacked. Furthermore in the ESPN film, The Last Days of Knight, the producer reported that either IU or RMK (I forget which) leaked the disinformation that Reed “was a cancer on the southern Mississippi team “, which Southern Mississippi denies.

I offer that the behavior of IU and IU nation was nothing short of disgraceful. Reed was a player that we should honor and respect. There is no resolution to the issue since Reed is deceased, but I always vote for honorable over dishonorable.

First, thanks for reminding me of Haris. He was a truly good kid who genuinely always gave 110%. Nothing fake about him.

As for your caterwauling about Reed, shove it. You’re just embarrassing yourself.

 

[namnik]

After watching IU at Michigan, I wanted to watch a game with a better outcome. So I queued up IU at Notre Dame from 1996-1997. IU won 76-75, again!

Neil Reed was the starting point guard on that team in his junior year. Other significant players were Collier, Guyton, Patterson and the never to be forgotten Haris Mujezinovic.

While watching I was reminded what an accomplished basketball player Reed was: offense, defense, playmaking, hustle, basketball IQ. He was a player that had always wanted to play for IU and would be a significant contributor on any IU team.

The only thing he did wrong was to run into an RMK chokehold. For this he was vilified by IU nation, run out of Bloomington and partially blamed for getting RMK sacked. Furthermore in the ESPN film, The Last Days of Knight, the producer reported that either IU or RMK (I forget which) leaked the disinformation that Reed “was a cancer on the southern Mississippi team “, which Southern Mississippi denies.

I offer that the behavior of IU and IU nation was nothing short of disgraceful. Reed was a player that we should honor and respect. There is no resolution to the issue since Reed is deceased, but I always vote for honorable over dishonorable.

You found this topic therapeutic?

 

[TR32]

Reed was voted off the team by his teammates and that occurred prior to the practice incident. I don't recall the circumstances of how he made it back but despite what outwardly looked like hustle and heart was inwardly very disruptive to his teammates.

This was common knowledge to fans at the time and I imagine ESPN has done a nice job of burying that little nuggest over the years.

 

[ORG]

After watching IU at Michigan, I wanted to watch a game with a better outcome. So I queued up IU at Notre Dame from 1996-1997. IU won 76-75, again!

Neil Reed was the starting point guard on that team in his junior year. Other significant players were Collier, Guyton, Patterson and the never to be forgotten Haris Mujezinovic.

While watching I was reminded what an accomplished basketball player Reed was: offense, defense, playmaking, hustle, basketball IQ. He was a player that had always wanted to play for IU and would be a significant contributor on any IU team.

The only thing he did wrong was to run into an RMK chokehold. For this he was vilified by IU nation, run out of Bloomington and partially blamed for getting RMK sacked. Furthermore in the ESPN film, The Last Days of Knight, the producer reported that either IU or RMK (I forget which) leaked the disinformation that Reed “was a cancer on the southern Mississippi team “, which Southern Mississippi denies.

I offer that the behavior of IU and IU nation was nothing short of disgraceful. Reed was a player that we should honor and respect. There is no resolution to the issue since Reed is deceased, but I always vote for honorable over dishonorable.

IMHO there is a lot more to this issue. I enjoyed his play on the court. That is as far as I am willing to go.

 

[IU Scott]

Reed was voted off the team by his teammates and that occurred prior to the practice incident. I don't recall the circumstances of how he made it back but despite what outwardly looked like hustle and heart was inwardly very disruptive to his teammates.

This was common knowledge to fans at the time and I imagine ESPN has done a nice job of burying that little nuggest over the years.

DD said that I snot true at all but something RMK made up

 

[Knewthiswascoming]

I agree. IU and Knight made it sound as if Reed was a pre-Madonna who just wanted publicity, but Reed never revealed any evidence to support that claim. His actions after he left IU were humble.

The more distance we get from the Knight years the lower he gets on my respect meter. I know he’s done some good things, but he’s also a bitter fool who will try to ruin someone (or institution) if he feels he’s been wronged.

The world was a much better place pre-Madonna, that’s for certain. Better than when we had “Demo Gods” or the use of faux words like “irregardless” or references to players who “digressed”, we had the pre-Madonna era, and it was wonderful.

 

[coachv jr]

I agree. IU and Knight made it sound as if Reed was a pre-Madonna who just wanted publicity, but Reed never revealed any evidence to support that claim. His actions after he left IU were humble.

The more distance we get from the Knight years the lower he gets on my respect meter. I know he’s done some good things, but he’s also a bitter fool who will try to ruin someone (or institution) if he feels he’s been wronged.

pre-Madonna. lmao. that's an instant classic

 

[gator mcCluskey]

DD said that I snot true at all but something RMK made up

I believe that Mike Lewis confirmed it, Scott. I certainly don’t ever remember Dakich claiming otherwise. I do know that Dakich has alluded to not having a high opinion of Reed, but won’t get into it due to Reed’s death.

 

[hoosier_est_1984]

agree. IU and Knight made it sound as if Reed was a pre-Madonna who just wanted publicity, but Reed never revealed any evidence to support that claim. His actions after he left IU were humble

He was literally the one person who knew what he was getting himself into following Iu basketball coming up.

This is key, if ppl wanna put blame on Knight for poor judgement then they also have to look towards Reid....Thats as bad of judgement as it gets .

First, thanks for reminding me of Haris. He was a truly good kid who genuinely always gave 110%. Nothing fake about him.

Shot around and spoke with him a bit at Knight camp my 6th grade summer of 96'.
Youre not lying.

 

[Hatchets7times]

Past is the past..
I'm concentrating more on 2019 and the future..
I'm pretty old.But before I die .I'd like to stand at the Sample Gates looking down Kirkwood with one hellva party on the first Monday in April.

 

[kkott]

He was literally the one person who knew what he was getting himself into following Iu basketball coming up.

This is key, if ppl wanna put blame on Knight for poor judgement then they also have to look towards Reid....Thats as bad of judgement as it gets .



Shot around and spoke with him a bit at Knight camp my 6th grade summer of 96'.
Youre not lying.

A 17yo "knowing what he was getting himself in to" in this situation in no way exonerates RMK or lessens his duty as a Coach not to abuse his position or the kids in his charge. He's 17 and getting what he thinks is the opportunity of his life to play for his dream coach and school. Lots of young people make bad decisions... RMK was the adult and Coach and has a duty to conduct himself properly.

And I'm not taking Reed's side or RMKs. I did find it interesting that Reed's Wikipedia page mentions he was an intern at ESPN the Magazine at one point, and I don't know if they mentioned that in the piece, but they should have just for clarification. I watched about 5 minutes and felt it was a predetermined conclusion and not fair reporting, and have never watched more.