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Playoff positions: Does it seem crazy to you? top 12, top 4 or even 5-8?

Army88

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IMO: There is no rational thinking regarding the playoffs:
1. A 13th ranked conference champion could theoretically be given a top 4 BYE
2. A 5th ranked, one loss, non-conference champion, could end up with a 9-12 position and not a home game during first round. Or even miss the playoffs.

Solutions:
1. Poorly ranked conference champions receive automatic bid, but not 1-4, not even 5-8!
2. While maintaining an automatic bid for major conference champions, determine the top spots on merit.
 
IMO: There is no rational thinking regarding the playoffs:
1. A 13th ranked conference champion could theoretically be given a top 4 BYE
2. A 5th ranked, one loss, non-conference champion, could end up with a 9-12 position and not a home game during first round. Or even miss the playoffs.

Solutions:
1. Poorly ranked conference champions receive automatic bid, but not 1-4, not even 5-8!
2. While maintaining an automatic bid for major conference champions, determine the top spots on merit.
A conference champion with the 5th lowest ranking and with a ranking outside the top 12 would receive the 12 seed. The top 4 ranked conference champions would get seeds 1-4.
 
Watching the bowl projection shows I have heard statements such as if their jerseys didn’t say Indiana they would be right second or third I the country. I have also heard prognosticators say that if the Hoosiers played Georgia’s schedule, they would have four losses right now.

Nebraska at 5-4 still has not qualified for a bowl game. Nebraska also is the only team Indiana has played with the winning record. It probably won’t sit right with voters that the Hoosier paid-off 6-3 Louisville to not play them this year. I think Indiana has to stay within six points of Ohio State to get one of the 12 bids.

Right now Ohio State is a 11.5 point favorite.
 
No way the committee is thinking about Louisville. We play the same level non-con as many schools.

This year we played the two teams in last year’s national championship game and it’s not our fault they are down. And we still play OSU on top of those two teams. We play in one of the two mega conferences and our schedule just broke as easier than usual.

Right now we are -450 to make the playoff. People seem to think if we play OSU reasonably well we are probably in, though of course you never know for sure.
 
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No way the committee is thinking about Louisville. We play the same level non-con as many schools.

This year we played the two teams in last year’s national championship game and it’s not our fault they are down. And we still play OSU on top of those two teams. We play in one of the two mega conferences and our schedule just broke as easier than usual.

Right now we are -450 to make the playoff. People seem to think if we play OSU reasonably well we are probably in, though of course you never know for sure.
I think, at this point, IU's performance next Saturday will determine whether they get in or not...more than anything any of the other teams or conferences do.

If they go over there, and are legitimately competitive, even if the margin ends up double digits at the end...I doubt enough other stuff could happen for IU to be left out.

If they go over there, and get destroyed...I actually think its very possible, if not likely, they get left out. I even think, at that point, the committee would strongly consider a 3 loss SEC team, Georgia maybe...or if Ole Miss were to lose to Texas or something like that in the SEC title game...over IU.

There would be vehement arguments over the name on the jersey causing this, why would Penn State get in and not IU, why would Notre Dame get in when they lost to NIllinois...etc... But I think the sentiment that would be left from an IU team getting thumped by the only contending team on their schedule, would be hard to ignore.

Good thing is, I can't fathom this team getting thumped, by anyone.
 
A conference champion rated lower than 13 possibly could get a 1st round bye, but it would be really tough. That means 2 of the top 5 conference champions are ranked outside the top 13. If the season ended this past weekend then both of Boise st, and BYU would have to lose the conference championship game. Mountain West has no one else in the Top 25 which means army (24) or Tulane (25) would get the 5th spot out of the AAC. If CO or KSU wins the B12 over BYU that would be a 16 and 17th ranked team that would have to move up at least 5 spots in the final rankings to be in the top 12. I am pretty sure the ACC will be either Miami or SMU and since SMU is ranked 13 it is almost a guarantee they would swap places with Miami in the final rankings if they win the conference. So, B1G, SEC, and ACC are pretty locked in to a top 12 spot. So, the favored team in both the BIG 12 and MW have to lose for that 4th spot to have a chance of of a conference champ being ranked outside the top 12 and even then I think the committee would bump the champ into the final top 12 anyways. So, imo chances that a team ranked 13 or lower gets a first round bye is slim to none. At least for this year.
 
I think, at this point, IU's performance next Saturday will determine whether they get in or not...more than anything any of the other teams or conferences do.

If they go over there, and are legitimately competitive, even if the margin ends up double digits at the end...I doubt enough other stuff could happen for IU to be left out.

If they go over there, and get destroyed...I actually think its very possible, if not likely, they get left out. I even think, at that point, the committee would strongly consider a 3 loss SEC team, Georgia maybe...or if Ole Miss were to lose to Texas or something like that in the SEC title game...over IU.

There would be vehement arguments over the name on the jersey causing this, why would Penn State get in and not IU, why would Notre Dame get in when they lost to NIllinois...etc... But I think the sentiment that would be left from an IU team getting thumped by the only contending team on their schedule, would be hard to ignore.

Good thing is, I can't fathom this team getting thumped, by anyone.
Agree. If for some reason our team just slams into its ceiling vs OSU and we lose by 21 or something like that, we have a serious issue and it gets much harder to argue we can compete in the playoff. It gets easy to argue a team with more loses, but with win(s) vs contending team(s), should be in. At the point, we need some luck.
 
Agree. If for some reason our team just slams into its ceiling vs OSU and we lose by 21 or something like that, we have a serious issue and it gets much harder to argue we can compete in the playoff. It gets easy to argue a team with more loses, but with win(s) vs contending team(s), should be in. At the point, we need some luck.
BYU winning out would help. ND losing again would help. PSU losing again would help. And then any of the current 1 or 2 loss SEC teams losing again would help.

If enough of those things happen, THEN I think its possible that IU is in even if they get destroyed in Columbus.

But I think its more likely than not that BYU doesn't win out, and that ND and PSU do win out, and there will be enough SEC teams in the discussion, that it will get very iffy if IU looks bad in Columbus. Even if we 63-0 Purdue the following week. That Purdue game could end up having an impact too...obviously have to win the game. But if we do lose by 15-20 in Columbus, and look shaky... A shaky win over Purdue then could hurt us.
 
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