we got UConn. Wiscy was a buzz saw. They lost 3 in a row. On their heels. Came back home and were desperate for a win to save their season. One of the worst match ups IU could have had, especially First game on road. IU will be fine.
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we got UConn. Wiscy was a buzz saw. They lost 3 in a row. On their heels. Came back home and were desperate for a win to save their season. One of the worst match ups IU could have had, especially First game on road. IU will be fine.
No its not, and shouldn't be.
Its not about being "fine". its about setting a standard for a era of IU ball that needs direction not more leeway.
Im not sure if youre trying to troll with that posts or are seriously that off
you always post crap about the “sky is falling” for IU BB. We’re 9 games in, at 8-1. Cant you at least Wait until there might be a 3 game losing streak, or sucking ass in the B1G...
Until and IF, that happens, just support the team. And IF IU sucks, you can boast to the ENTIRE BOARD how you were right, you called a shitty season. Some schmuck will bow down to you no doubt.
I dont think the sky is falling for IU.
I dont think IU is garbage.
I know they can do better.
Theyve already proven that vs fsu.
So thats what makes my case.
If they were a shyt team who simply sucked it be whatever, but we keep having these teams at IU who do not want to show effort on the reg.
If you don't want to play for IU dont come here. Its disrespectful to the IU base. Many teams would kill to have our fan base.
Also, its not about being right, IF that happened I wouldn't care less to come post that tbh.
I have never felt in life I needed to prove myself to ppl.
Maybe you should try that sometime, might not be so triggered all the time
Archie has sucked for over 2 years now. How about you shut up and wait until he actually achieves something?
We're 8-1 and coming off a terrible loss. But guess what, why don't you guys try to enjoy and wait till the season's over and then start your campaign to hire yourselves as coach because obviously you know what it takes. If you get 3 or 4 straight losses like this then I would agree - I know you wanted to beat Wisconsin so bad you can't handle the loss but please try.
I’ll agree to this. You can choose how you enjoy the season and I’ll choose how I enjoy the season. Also, If you want to make dense arguments about being 8-1 and it’s only one game, have at it. Don’t expect me to take you serious, though.
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So you don't believe in conspiracy theories?
Then please explain this to me.
On 9/11/2001, flight 77, exactly 77 minutes after take-off, hit the 77 foot tall Pentagon, located at the 77th meridian, going at a rate of 530mph (777 feet per second). 2,977 people died in the WTC attack, excluding the 19 terrorists.
The One World Trade Center is 1,776 feet tall. (1+6=7 = 777)
On the day Trump was inaugurated, he was exactly 70 years, 7 months and 7 days old.
"G" is the 7th letter of the alphabet.
I’m old enough to remember when Archie’s hiring was hailed as a great moment in IU basketball history.
Beilein's first three years at Michigan were worse than Archie's first three years in Bloomington have been. What makes you think IU fans would have had patience with Beilein?
I assure you the usual knee jerk trolls would have been ranting and raving like spoiled children
Nah not spoiled children. Anyone with a modicum of objectivity and sense can see red flags from the body of work we have over the last few years and ton of games. The extended losing streak, too many games like last night where the team had zero energy or effort and looked unprepared. Beilein was implementing a system and just needed his type of players to succeed. It’s really not relatable to what we’ve seen from miller. We look lost on the court, play with lousy effort, and don’t have a half dozen 5 stars waiting in the wings. Because if he can’t consistently get kids to play their tails off he’s going to need a lot more talent than he’s brought in or has coming in. Some posters have their heads in the sand.
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Posters on here fail to seen the difference between taking a few years but making improvements and taking a few years and not making improvements.
And you cant call it a improvement when there are relapses.
We shouldnt be having relapses on defense and effort in year 3 that is so bad it translates to being down 30 and losing by 20.
Dont even need to add this but esp when youre known as a defensive minded coach
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Based on a terrible record, numerous games like Saturday, sub par recruiting, and etc. For a guy who claims to be a basketball savant, you have lost your mind.
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step back from the ledge.
let’s just wait and see how things turn out. When it’s all said and done this may end up being a much needed “good” loss.
I am not a sunshine pumper. In fact, from where our program was 20 years ago, I think it is perfectly reasonable to think our program is in the crapper. Even if we go to the final four this year, it’s going to take years of being really good to get our program to a level where I think we are on our way to being back.
But, I EXPECT, that we easily make the tournament and are a top 5 BT team this year. This isn’t based on optimism , but our roster. We have size, athleticism, depth and experience.
One we get Phin back we should have the best backcourt in the league when considering defense and offense. In fact, adding veteran smith and I expect us to have three of the league’s best defenders.
We also have an absolute stud , and one of the nations top freshman, playing down low.
It’s too early to be teetering on the ledge. But,we better get Phin back and start playing D to the level we should be (consistently). If we implode and end up being a .500 BT team, or worse somehow miss the tourney, that will be an utter fail.
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You simply cant expect that now after loss to Wisc.
They showed they are vulnerable so much now with this team, that even after another good win ( like a fsu) in the future this season ... That their is an argument they could fluke the next game, or game(s)
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Smith is not that* great of a defender...
Come on now .
Hes probably the least active* player on defense amd offense on our roster excluding DD
You got it. You should never judge a coach until year 5 minimum. We are way way early for judgment.
I do expect that.
you misunderstand.
I am judging the coach. Last year I thought he earned at Best a D. He lost the team for 12 games.
this year, I am not going to panic after one loss. But, I expect results with this roster. NCAA six seed or better.
No, one is teetering on the edge. I just think Archie isn’t an elite coach. Thats’s it. No worries, if you think he is. I don’t.
I do enjoy your posts but you might have a little sunshine pumping in you. You literally posted before the Wisconsin game that you fully expect IU to be undefeated going into the New Year. Also, I’d take MSU, Maryland, and Michigan’s backcourt over IUs. If IU really had the best backcourt and 3 of the top defenders in the Big Ten then we should be competing for the BT title.
The issue with the Wisconsin game wasn’t that we lost. I actually thought we would lose. What I didn’t expect was a poorly coached team giving little effort. It’s the same thing that happened his first year, 2nd year, and now again in his 3rd year. It’s a pattern with Archie’s teams.
Most would rather wait tell we lose 12 or 13 in a row tho...(srsly)
I don’t think Miller is an elite coach. Last year was a train wreck. I expect a lot from this team. No excuses this year.
We need a poll on here to see what % of posters would say its time to move on from Miller if the season is xyz (failed to meet reasonable* Black and White standard for year 3 \
I say black and white bc anything short of that becomes too subjective)
Id think the overwhelming majority of this board\ fan base period would agree that when we first hired Miller it would have been widely accepted that if Miller didnt make ncaa tournament by year 3 he would need to go.
I wanted Miller, had\have hope for Miller, am still not calling for him to be removed without that happening.
But id almost guarantee the goal post would move again for most others on here with everything short of the scenario I gave.
Has anybody considered that IU may be under the "Curse of the General"? Boston was under the "curse of the Bambino" for many years. The Cubs were under the "Curse of the Goat". Maybe this is simply a curse we have to deal with...... for about 50 years. Of course, it could also be that IU Administrators meddling is the curse.
The curse of Bob Knight would be the only scenario I could think of accepting all these years of bs iu basketball if we were ever to be able to find out one day haha...
Huh? One 20 pt loss at Madison and now future wins somehow mean less? What were you saying about logic? Lol
p.s. every other post on this board doesn’t have to be yours. we get that your life is ruined and all...
No they dont "mean" less
It means their is a greater likelihood of* losing* games* than expected.
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No, "hereYouGo", your curse is being born with a lack of intellect and no sense of humor.
okay, can you help us the draw the line then? every team that has lost a game by 20 on the road in the conference is now extra vulnerable. what about teams that lose by 15? a little less vulnerable? what if they are losing by 20 but then hit a couple of quick threes at the end in garbage time? are they fully vulnerable or the lesser version? i, mean, statistically there is probably something to this but i'm guessing we'd need more data for all teams and for each individual team. lol. a team that loses by 20 (on the road lol) is probably more likely to lose by 20 (on the road) again. but if they don't lose by 20 (on the road) their next few games then i'd guess that vulnerability drops to some degree...maybe to the lesser version of vulnerability discussed above. if a team then loses a few (road) games by 20 after that initial 20 point (road) loss that caused them to reach full vulnerability then i'd argue they've transcended "vulnerable" and have achieved a full state of vulner.
here i thought i was watching a team play like utter shit in their first road game of the year. i was actually watching a logic axiom. pretty rad!
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