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Phenom Romeo Could be Hidden Gem for Pistons
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In this thread we've seen ufo reduced to shouting "go root for the Boilers!" over and over again.
It appears to be a complete mental break.
It appears to be a complete mental break.
It's called potential.
Something you must not understand if you solely go off of statistics. If you go off statistics then you would take Carsen Edwards over Zion or Barrett. And every NBA team would be laughing at you.
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This is dumb. Their players certainly did not under-perform. We had a boatload that did. You are confused.
Seeing as Culver and Reddish will likely go before Romeo, it appears those NBA teams are actually laughing at you, or at the very least think you're wrong in regards to Romeo's potential.
But they also didn't see as many Romeo High School games.
Kent Ramey and Scotty Moore were great HS players for the Mitchell bluejackets.
I saw Scotty Moore put up 30 on Damon.
I can't believe they didn't play in the NBA. Actually I think only Ramey played college...at div 2.
No one gives a s#$t what a guy did in high school. It's a completely different world.
I saw Scotty Moore put up 30 on Damon.
I can't believe they didn't play in the NBA. Actually I think only Ramey played college...at div 2.
No one gives a s#$t what a guy did in high school. It's a completely different world.
And 7'3" Sam Bowie was drafted before Michael Jordan.
Only time will tell.
He who laughs last, laughs best.
As a NBA GM the two factors would be selling tickets, and winning Championships. Draft accordingly.
Zion might do both. Thus he is the likely #1 pick.
Culver and Reddish would not immediately sell as many tickets as Romeo in Indianapolis.
Winning is #1, Tickets and fanbase is #2.
And college is also a completely different world than the NBA. College stats mean nothing, potential at the next level is everything.
It's all about potential at the next level.
You are correct.
NBA potential is everything.
HS and college careers do not always mean success at the next level.
Risk vs Reward
Any injured player is a greater risk.
Jaylon Smith of Fort Wayne Luers/ND got passed over due to a severe knee/nerve injury. His NFL potential was off the charts, top 10 pick easily. Now the Cowboys have the steal of the NFL Draft that year. Cowboys took a risk, and got rewarded for their faith and patience. I wish the Colts had chosen Jaylon Smith, double win in increased Wins and increased Colts Tickets and Colts Merchandise sales.
Romeo was far the better player than Oladipo as a freshman. Romeo has huge amount of potential especially how coachable he is. I am sure that his shooting will get straightened out.
If the one and done rule was gone, Romeo would have been a NBA lottery pick last Summer.
Who keeps posting over critical
Romeo will be a millionaire very soon.
Romeo has a basketball court in his hometown named after him.
It is obvious Purdue will never win a national title. That is why most top recruits do not go there.
OK once again not sure what the final numbers ended, but here is a quote from an article that came out after the Maryland game. So at least mid season, Romeo was the best finisher in college basketball
"Langford is one of the best finishers at the rim in college basketball. “Among the 388 players in Division 1 to take at least 50 shots at the basket in half-court settings, Romeo Langford ranks No. 1 in finishing efficiency at 78%,” says Synergy.
I doubt romeo would have been a lottery pick in last year's draft unless you are assuming those players would have been drafted out of high school a year earlier. That draft was loaded.
Are those laughing NBA teams the ones that made draft picks before Kawhi Leonard was picked at 15 by the pacers?
Are those laughing NBA teams the ones that made draft picks before Kawhi Leonard was picked at 15 by the pacers?
Sometimes NBA teams overlook players so accordingly Romeo will fix his flaws to the point where he is an all-star.
The gaps in your logic are surpassed only by those of ufo.
So he is phenom for the NBA Based on what he did against 5’11 high school kids. Got it. Makes perfect sense.
That's not the way I see it, so I decided to look at the #s.
For the 17 games from Chicago State through Nebraska, RL was 92 of 150 on 2 pt attempts, or 61.3%. Impressive.
Then we played Purdue. And Painter figured out that RH could not drive to the left, couldn't finish with his left hand, had no stop & pop game, had no drop step/shot fake game. and relied almost entirely on going all the way to the basket, exclusively from the right side. And every Big 10 team thereafter had the blueprint. Results?
Starting with the game at Purdue (2-7), RL shot 38.7% on 2s for the remaining 16 games.
And because I know ufo will say it.......no, it had nothing to do with his hand. The Duke game was #7 of the year, MD was #15, and he shot 2s well after Duke through Nebraska. Also, I don't have the #s, but I'm pretty sure if you ran his 3 pt shot % from the Purdue game on out, it would show his 3 pt % was better in the final 15 then in the first 16.
Looking at it still closer, it is obvious RL could finish against less prepared, less talented teams but struggled against more prepared, more talented teams......proof? 2 pt shooting #s v. Chicago St (7-9), Montana St (4-4), Marquette (7-10), Texas-Arlington (7-11), Jacksonville (5-6), Central Ark ((7-11), NW (1st time around)(7-10) v. 2 pt #s v, Purdue (3-10 in 2 games), MSU (4-17 in 2 games), Michigan (7-19 in 2 games)OSU (4-11 in 2 games), Arkansas (4-10), Duke (3-11). Also 4-13 v. RU at RU. Where he did hit a decent % in BT play, after Purdue, it was on a small # of shots.
The #s only confirm what all of us witnessed with our own eyes: once teams figured out RL's weaknesses, he was completely unable to adjust efficiently, and his 2 point #s and efficiency declined.
So if IU's best player was this bad, what does this say about the rest of IU's team?
Romeo is still going to get drafted and become a millionaire very soon. No other player on last season's IU roster is a NBA ready player.
Based on what he did in AAU against the best players in the country including Zion, Barrett, Reddish, Ja. Based on over 3,000 points in HS. You can say the same thing about every straight to the NBA from HS player LeBron, Kobe, Garnett, Moses Malone. When you are a top 5 player in your class you are considered a Phenom. Romeo was the top player in the nation after his Soph year in HS. And in the top 5, top 6 after his Senior year. In the B1G it became apparent that IU had no perimeter shooting so every team packed the lane and clogged driving lanes for every player, not just Romeo. Every NBA team has shooters, driving lanes will open up, but more rim protectors will be waiting under the bucket. Romeo has exhibited last season's perimeter shooting was not typical of his career, it will improve, it is a matter of how much it will improve. Defensively Romeo has the length and athleticism to be an elite defender. Drafting NBA players is all about potential. The NBA is a much different game than college or HS.
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The numbers mentioned in the quote and the tweet were not 2pt fg%, it was finishing percentage at the rim--you know what someone said he could not do. And the number back up, that for at least half the season he was the best in the country at just that.
Or maybe.......there was enough film on the Hoosiers at the midway point of the season that showed IU was an abysmal perimeter shooting team? You can change your defensive approach when a team isn't a threat to shoot from deep and you tighten down on cutting and driving lanes, which severely hurts a slashing guard like Romeo. Romeo was one of the most productive freshman in any P5 conference and that was with a pretty incompetent supporting cast. When your front court goes 6'6 and 6'7 and your back court mates can't shoot, really tough to do much if you're RL.
The only way you can conclude RL had a disappointing freshman season is if you expected him to come in and average 25 ppg and in that case you were delusional to begin with and/or thought Romeo was going to single handily take IU to the F4. IU's season as a whole was a disappointment and that blame automatically gets shifted to RL because of unreasonable expectations. If you take a step back and look at RL season from an individual perspective, he more than lived up to the hype. He simply can't control his supporting cast.
Good lord. I think the fact that he went from over 61% to just under 39% on 2 pt shots proved that his 'finishing efficiency' declined drastically as we got into the BT season.......if seeing it with your own eyes wasn't enough.
The paragraph starting with "The only way..." is another straw man argument. What you refer to is certainly NOT "the only way you can conclude RL had a disappointing freshman season." But thanks for playing.
It did go down, but where were the shots coming from? He did not get to the rim as often later in the year because we could not shoot, which lead to more pull up jump shots and not getting to the rim.
Or perhaps it was because we weren't playing Chicago State, Montana State, Texas Arlington, UC Davis, Central Arkansas & Jacksonville during the BT season. He was 69.4% against them on 2s, 48.5% against everybody else.
And....Arkansas was game #4, Duke #7. He was 4-10 & 3-11 against them, respectively, while the Central Ark. & Jacksonville games (#s 12 & 13) he did well---7-11 & 5-6. So the problem was there the entire year, it just got worse as we played teams with more talent who scouted us better.
I can't find the 'finishing stat'....is there a public place to see it? What I do know is that RL's BT efficiency #s overall were not great--
--19th in Player Efficiency Rating
--10th in effective FG%
--20th in True Shooting %
--18th in Offensive Rating
--19th in Win Shares.
Does any of that sound like the best finisher in the BT, let alone the country?
Now what I don't know is if those stats are for the BT season only or overall, and I'm too tired of beating you guys down with facts, not excuses and conjecture, to look it up. But I do want to add another for the 'he had no chance, he was the only player we had' crowd. RL was 11th in usage % among BT players, behind Edwards, Happ, Palmer, Ward, Stevens, Wesson, Winston, Omoruyi, Law, and Bradzikeis.
Sorry right back at you! There are lots of good evidence to suggest that Romeo will average 20 minutes +/game, 12-15 pts/game, play good defense,rebound, and hustle, shoot free throws well and often, etc.
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