I would enjoy if every Wednesday he would come out with the statement that "Purdue sucks". Oh yeah!
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Didn't he mention God in his rant?
Leadership can never be underestimated
As an aside, the F word is becoming so common now, I don't think people even realize they're using it.Leadership can never be underestimated
It used to be used for shock value or for those with limited vocabulary. Now, it's just a speech 'crutch', like 'man'. I saw an interview with Danica Patrick (I think) recently and she used 'man' frequently.
For Rising Sophmores and Jrs, they have tasted success in FB and they feel it more than BB
Fanduel released its win totals for regular season & Indiana is at 8.5
I know a particular coach on the hardwood that uses “man” a lot.
As an aside, the F word is becoming so common now, I don't think people even realize they'reusing it.
It used to be used for shock value or for those with limited vocabulary. Now, it's just a speech 'crutch', like 'man'. I saw an interview with Danica Patrick (I think) recently and she used 'man' frequently.
Dammit.
I was really hoping for 6.5, but I was sure we'd be no higher than 7.5, so this is a bummer. I'll still bet it, but just not as heavily now, for the reasons I explained earlier in this thread. Fan Duel is saying they see 8 wins guaranteed for IU, and they see 2 losses guaranteed (OU& PSU). That puts us at with having to win at least one of the Illannoy or @ Iowa games to win the over. I still like our odds to do that and I say we get to at least 9 wins next season. Beat both Illannoy and Iowa and we are back in the CFP.Not sure I agree about the CFP if we don’t beat either Oregon or PSUDammit.
Here is the list of the teams they have released so far.Dammit.
10.5 projected regular-season wins
- Ohio State
- Notre Dame
- Oregon
- Penn State
- Georgia
- Texas
- Tennessee
- Clemson
- Alabama
- LSU
- Michigan
- Indiana
- Louisville
- Miami
- USC
- North Carolina
- Kansas
- Florida
- Colorado
- Iowa
Not bad company to be in....
That is some pretty heady company after just year one of Cig. I’m still thinking I’m dreaming. It sure makes this basketball nightmare easier to tolerate.
When I see an interview from a beautiful announcer with a male player and he says "man" I have to question the player's eyesight!
Baby steps. Another successful year and we'll start getting respect.
How Louisville and Tennesse get such love, I have no idea. Miami, too.
I think UNC has potential to be the worst coaching hire since Archie Miller.
If we go 10-2, and our only 2 losses are on the road to top 10 teams, we most certainly will be in the CFP unless we get blown out or a ton of teams go 12-0 & 11-1. 9-3 will put you with the bubble teams in the current format. If you are from the B10 or SEC and finish 10-2, with both losses on the road to top 10 teams, will get you into the CFP 90% of the time.
Well, I hope we find out but two years in a row of ‘every time you play someone good, you lose’ narrative will be strong. Granted, we will have beaten Illinois in that scenario, but it will be mostly a distant memory by Dec 5th or whenever.
The Football Media turned on us at the end of last season when it became clear their SEC (money making) Ox was about to be gored by our supplanting one of them in the CFP final 12...
Just based on that attitude...; I think we'll have to at least win one of those Oregon or Penn $t games at their place(s) to be a lock to get in this time around...
The media (and a lot of other schools fans) won't be rooting for us to be the spunky underdog this season... They want to see the upstart put back in their place...
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11-1 barely got us in this year. I doubt 10-2 would get us in next year, but it depends who we beat.
11-1 barely got us in, but we're starting the year ranked, so we won't have as high of a climb as we did last year.
Unfortunate that that's how it generally works, but here we are.
Exactly. Plus, when you are ranked and lose to a top 10 team on the road, you only drop a few spots in the rankings as long as you don't get embarrassed. 10-2 with wins over Illannoy, WI, MSU, UCLA, @ Iowa, @Maryland, and @Purdue, and only 2 road losses to top 10 teams, after starting out ranked will put us squarely in the discussion. The B10 and SEC teams will always get the nod over an ACC or B12 or G5 team. I don't think we are close to being in a position to expect to get the nod over an SEC team with the same record yet. We have to beat some top 10 teams to get to that point. We have 2 chances nest season to do just that against Oregon and PSU. If we win one of those games and lose to Iowa on the road for example, I think we'd be a near lock to get in at 10-2.
With this new 12 team format, 10-2 will get you in 90% of the time if you are from the B10 or SEC. Probably 100% for the SEC. 9-3 will be the bubble going forward.
Yes, that's what I said above. If we beat an Oregon or PSU and finish 10-2, we can get in.
Lose to both and finish 10-2? You honestly think they'd pick us over a 10-2 ACC Miami team?
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Donate to the IU NIL fund, money talks.
Absolutely. None of the 10-2 teams from either the ACC or B12 were in front of 9-3 Bama. Only Miami was ranked ahead of Ole Miss and SC. All the other 10 win teams that weren't from the B10 or SEC were below Bama, Ole Miss, and SC, who were all 9-3. IU is in the B10 and that matters. We played a weak SoS last year because both UM and UW regressed a ton after their NC appearance the year prior. Next season our SoS will not be called into question and we will be starting the season. ESPN has us at #17 and we play @ #3 PSU, @ #6 Oregon, vs #13 Illannoy, and @ Iowa who could easily be ranked by the time we play them and will be a top 40 team for sure.
That resume, plus being in the B10, plus starting the season ranked, means that we would most certainly be above Miami, or any other ACC or B12 team, if we are both 10-2 and our only losses are on the road to top 10 teams.
I think you severely underestimate the level of disdain against the idea of IU being a football power. And I get the skepticism.
But when a 5-1 Nebraska team rolls in here and gets thrashed by 49 point, then loses to O$U the next week by 4 points and there is still a discussion about whether or not we deserve to be in the CFP, you should realize anyone we beat next year is automatically going to be severely downgraded.
If Oregon or PSU or Illinois slip to, say 9-3 or 8-4 and we beat them and then lose to the other 2, we will not get any kind of respect for that.
I'm just going by the past. If you think the football world will magically give IU any breaks, I think you're dreaming.
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Ok, let me do the math on that...
Hypothetically, Indiana ranked #17 loses at #3 PSU with a moderate loss margin, Indiana drops 7-8 spots to be ranked 24-25 . Then we beat @ #6 Oregon cleanly and we get 5-6 spots back, and now are ranked 19th-20th.
Alabama ranked #17 loses to #3 PSU they hold at 17 or even gain 1 or 2 spots for that moderate 'good loss' to be ranked 15th- 16th, with Herbstreit talking them up every minute, then they beat @ #6 Oregon for a 'great win' , they gain 6 to 8 spots to be ranked 8th or 9th .
That's the road Indiana faces... (Now, usually the statisticians and computer polls do help reduce some of that nonsense, once enough games are played. So I'm a little tongue in cheek on this.)
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We had a horrific SoS last season and we were not ranked in the top 25 to start the season. Next year our SoS is going to going be in the top 20 nationally and we will be starting out the season ranked in the top 25. Going 10-2, with our only 2 losses on the road against top 10 teams, will put us into the CFP over any 10-2 ACC or B12 team. 90% chance we make the CFP if that happens, unless like 6 SEC teams all go 10-2, or there are a bunch of 11-1 teams from the ACC and B12. If those outliers don't happen, then this is how 10-2 looks imo:
Taking ESPN's rankings from above, we will be having a top 25 matchup at home against #13 Illannoy in week 4. The next week @Iowa would at the very least be a road win against a top 40 team, and possibly a top 25 team. At that point we'd be 5-0 and ranked in the top 10 going into a bye week before playing at Oregon. As long as we don't get blown out, we probably are still ranked in the top 10. Worst case scenario we are just outside the top 10. After 3 more wins (Sparty, UCLA, @MD) we are 8-1 and solidly in the top 10 as we head to happy valley. As long as we don't get blown out then we will still be in the top 10, or right on the cusp. With 2 more wins (Wisky & @PU) we finish at 10-2 and we are ranked no lower than 10th. Depending on conference championship game outcomes, we are in the CFP.
The 2 teams that went 10-2 last year from the B10 and SEC were O$U and TN. They were ranked 6/7. We were 8th at 11-1. The past is only 1 year of the CFP. That's it. I've explained the reality we are in now and why all 10-2 teams from the SEC and B10 will make the CFP 90% of the time (SEC 100%). We had a horrible SoS last year and still easily made the CFP at 11-1. We would've hosted a 1st round game if they hadn't given out byes to the top 4 conference champs.
That's not how I see that scenario at all. Look at my reply above to DANC
Tennessee being ranked ahead of us was a joke. The SEC was a joke. Yet, still, they get more respect.
We'll see next year.
I agreed with your take, for the most part. I think at 10-2 we have a good chance, depending on who the wins and losses are.
Just sayin'... The drops are bigger on a loss and the gains are lesser on a win, for us, than for a name school.
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That's not the order we play those teams in, but maybe that doesn't matter. But there is the Illinois game before either of those....so we wouldn't be 17th after that game. Either higher or lower.
Simple solution to all this:
Win em all big and Leave No Doubt...
Win em all big and Leave No Doubt...
I think after we see how good Mendoza is going to be, fans won't be willing to cede a fvcking thing; I know I won't.
12-0 Big Ten Championship bound!!
12-0 Big Ten Championship bound!!
15 teams have gone unscathed in the past 15 regular seasons. So it's not a simple solution.
