One thing has become clear watching videos from practice...

[ESalum86]

...this is now the team and program of Tom Allen. He seems to have a very firm grasp of everything and is running the show as he wants. It seems like everyone is buying in and LEO is taking over. Team chemistry cannot be overstated.

I felt all along 2019 would be our true "breakout" year and this would be somewhat of a rebuilding year due to all the losses on D, QB, etc.; combined with our youth. As I count it, 59 players on our roster are either freshman or sophomore in eligibility.

However, the way CTA addressed some roster issues with grad transfers (hope he never has to do so much again); the apparent transformations in strength, speed and explosiveness; and the overall talent level improving make me think this can be a surprise season.

I've gone on record that I think we can beat every team on our schedule. Of course, the stars have to align to beat tOSU. That said, I also think we could lose to every team on our schedule. We have yet to win every game we should win, don't win enough of the toss up games and rarely pull an upset. This is where team chemistry and improved depth and talent come into play.

It is summer and I am optimistic. I am officially going on record for 7-5. I even see decent routes to 8 and even 9 wins. Come @ me if you want.

 

[h20pls]

...this is now the team and program of Tom Allen. He seems to have a very firm grasp of everything and is running the show as he wants. It seems like everyone is buying in and LEO is taking over. Team chemistry cannot be overstated.

I felt all along 2019 would be our true "breakout" year and this would be somewhat of a rebuilding year due to all the losses on D, QB, etc.; combined with our youth. As I count it, 59 players on our roster are either freshman or sophomore in eligibility.

However, the way CTA addressed some roster issues with grad transfers (hope he never has to do so much again); the apparent transformations in strength, speed and explosiveness; and the overall talent level improving make me think this can be a surprise season.

I've gone on record that I think we can beat every team on our schedule. Of course, the stars have to align to beat tOSU. That said, I also think we could lose to every team on our roster. We have yet to win every game we should win, don't win enough of the toss up games and rarely pull an upset. This is where team chemistry and improved depth and talent come into play.

It is summer and I am optimistic. I am officially going on record for 7-5. I even see decent routes to 8 and even 9 wins. Come @ me if you want.

I always feel this way in August. Win, lose or draw. Hoosier for life.

 

[indy1203]

...this is now the team and program of Tom Allen. He seems to have a very firm grasp of everything and is running the show as he wants. It seems like everyone is buying in and LEO is taking over. Team chemistry cannot be overstated.

I felt all along 2019 would be our true "breakout" year and this would be somewhat of a rebuilding year due to all the losses on D, QB, etc.; combined with our youth. As I count it, 59 players on our roster are either freshman or sophomore in eligibility.

However, the way CTA addressed some roster issues with grad transfers (hope he never has to do so much again); the apparent transformations in strength, speed and explosiveness; and the overall talent level improving make me think this can be a surprise season.

I've gone on record that I think we can beat every team on our schedule. Of course, the stars have to align to beat tOSU. That said, I also think we could lose to every team on our roster. We have yet to win every game we should win, don't win enough of the toss up games and rarely pull an upset. This is where team chemistry and improved depth and talent come into play.

It is summer and I am optimistic. I am officially going on record for 7-5. I even see decent routes to 8 and even 9 wins. Come @ me if you want.

You mentioned apparent transformations in
strength, this transformation was not apparent
to the BTN crew during their visit since 1 of
the crew stated, the IU OL/DL were too small for
the B10 competition they will face. I hope you
are correct and the BTN crew will be proven
wrong. History has shown we do not do well
against the road grader type lines of Wisconsin,
OSU, Mich. State, Michigan.

 

[ufo33]

Just watched a Fort Wayne Dwenger offensive lineman Joe Tippman 6'6" 315 bulldozer going to Wisconsin next fall. IU needs to keep home state talent home.

 

[jacksback]

The speed/strength transformation mumbo jumbo sounds great but I can remember the same stuff being said about players back in the Mallory days. It's mostly just off season talk and you know every other team is trying to do the same thing.

 

[turney333]

You mentioned apparent transformations in
strength, this transformation was not apparent
to the BTN crew during their visit since 1 of
the crew stated, the IU OL/DL were too small for
the B10 competition they will face. I hope you
are correct and the BTN crew will be proven
wrong. History has shown we do not do well
against the road grader type lines of Wisconsin,
OSU, Mich. State, Michigan.

That seems to be strange critique, as IU has just as big an OL as OSU and MSU, and as big if not bigger DL than MSU, OSU, PSU.

IU likely is behind the athleticism of some of these lines, but if BTN guys specifically singled out IUs size, they really weren't paying that much attention.

 

[Hoosier009]

...this is now the team and program of Tom Allen. He seems to have a very firm grasp of everything and is running the show as he wants. It seems like everyone is buying in and LEO is taking over. Team chemistry cannot be overstated.

I felt all along 2019 would be our true "breakout" year and this would be somewhat of a rebuilding year due to all the losses on D, QB, etc.; combined with our youth. As I count it, 59 players on our roster are either freshman or sophomore in eligibility.

However, the way CTA addressed some roster issues with grad transfers (hope he never has to do so much again); the apparent transformations in strength, speed and explosiveness; and the overall talent level improving make me think this can be a surprise season.

I've gone on record that I think we can beat every team on our schedule. Of course, the stars have to align to beat tOSU. That said, I also think we could lose to every team on our schedule. We have yet to win every game we should win, don't win enough of the toss up games and rarely pull an upset. This is where team chemistry and improved depth and talent come into play.

It is summer and I am optimistic. I am officially going on record for 7-5. I even see decent routes to 8 and even 9 wins. Come @ me if you want.

I agree for the most part. This team is young but still has a higher overall talent level than in recent years. I do disagree that QB is rebuilding. Best group of QB's we have had in a number of years and since it appears we will be running alot with the QB we will need depth due to season long dings. All three QB's will play at some point. My guess is Ramsey will start at FIU and we will go from there depending on performance.

 

[76-1]

The speed/strength transformation mumbo jumbo sounds great but I can remember the same stuff being said about players back in the Mallory days. It's mostly just off season talk and you know every other team is trying to do the same thing.

You didn't notice the transformation of the team from Mallorys first year to his third or fourth?!?

I recall clearly noticing that things had changed conditioning-wise when we were knocking "the" Ohio $tate players out of the game versus only our guys getting hurt against them (this was around 1985 I think)... The next two years we beat them in the scoreboard...

If we get that type of change in player conditioning and attitude with Allen in charge he'll be here for a long time and we'll win a lot of big games!

 

[Hoosier009]

You mentioned apparent transformations in
strength, this transformation was not apparent
to the BTN crew during their visit since 1 of
the crew stated, the IU OL/DL were too small for
the B10 competition they will face. I hope you
are correct and the BTN crew will be proven
wrong. History has shown we do not do well
against the road grader type lines of Wisconsin,
OSU, Mich. State, Michigan.

My major concern is DL. Can we hold up over the season. Are we big enough. Wish Nate Hoff had one more year.

 

[indy1203]

That seems to be strange critique, as IU has just as big an OL as OSU and MSU, and as big if not bigger DL than MSU, OSU, PSU.

IU likely is behind the athleticism of some of these lines, but if BTN guys specifically singled out IUs size, they really weren't paying that much attention.

1 of the BTN guys did just that, I don't remember which one.

 

[indy1203]

I agree for the most part. This team is young but still has a higher overall talent level than in recent years. I do disagree that QB is rebuilding. Best group of QB's we have had in a number of years and since it appears we will be running alot with the QB we will need depth due to season long dings. All three QB's will play at some point. My guess is Ramsey will start at FIU and we will go from there depending on performance.

Just curious, why Ramsey when we have a QB that has
more experience, has played in a bowl game, and only
has 1 year left?

 

[mushroomgod_1]

...this is now the team and program of Tom Allen. He seems to have a very firm grasp of everything and is running the show as he wants. It seems like everyone is buying in and LEO is taking over. Team chemistry cannot be overstated.

I felt all along 2019 would be our true "breakout" year and this would be somewhat of a rebuilding year due to all the losses on D, QB, etc.; combined with our youth. As I count it, 59 players on our roster are either freshman or sophomore in eligibility.

However, the way CTA addressed some roster issues with grad transfers (hope he never has to do so much again); the apparent transformations in strength, speed and explosiveness; and the overall talent level improving make me think this can be a surprise season.

I've gone on record that I think we can beat every team on our schedule. Of course, the stars have to align to beat tOSU. That said, I also think we could lose to every team on our schedule. We have yet to win every game we should win, don't win enough of the toss up games and rarely pull an upset. This is where team chemistry and improved depth and talent come into play.

It is summer and I am optimistic. I am officially going on record for 7-5. I even see decent routes to 8 and even 9 wins. Come @ me if you want.

I hate statements like "we can beat every team on our schedule" and "we could lose to every team on our schedule".

They are truisms, like "A meteorite could hit my house tonight while I'm sleeping and kill everyone there". A true statement, but not something not really worth discussing.

So let's be honest and say there's no way in hell we beat OSU at OSU or Michigan at Michigan, or lose to BSU in Bloomington. (and yes, I know Bill Lynch lost here to Brady Hoke. It's still not going to happen).

 

[turney333]

Just curious, why Ramsey when we have a QB that has
more experience, has played in a bowl game, and only
has 1 year left?

Dawkins probably has the advantage of pure athleticism/talent but had the spring off, and is certainly behind in terms of playbook knowledge and team chemistry.

I think the most likely scenario is that Ramsey starts initially, but at some point in the year Dawkins takes the starting spot.

 

[cshartle123]

...this is now the team and program of Tom Allen. He seems to have a very firm grasp of everything and is running the show as he wants. It seems like everyone is buying in and LEO is taking over. Team chemistry cannot be overstated.

I felt all along 2019 would be our true "breakout" year and this would be somewhat of a rebuilding year due to all the losses on D, QB, etc.; combined with our youth. As I count it, 59 players on our roster are either freshman or sophomore in eligibility.

However, the way CTA addressed some roster issues with grad transfers (hope he never has to do so much again); the apparent transformations in strength, speed and explosiveness; and the overall talent level improving make me think this can be a surprise season.

I've gone on record that I think we can beat every team on our schedule. Of course, the stars have to align to beat tOSU. That said, I also think we could lose to every team on our schedule. We have yet to win every game we should win, don't win enough of the toss up games and rarely pull an upset. This is where team chemistry and improved depth and talent come into play.

It is summer and I am optimistic. I am officially going on record for 7-5. I even see decent routes to 8 and even 9 wins. Come @ me if you want.

I too have begun opening myself up to the idea of a surprise season. One thing is clear, Tom Allen is doing his thing. And frankly, I like it. I appreciate how much fun the kids appear to be having. If I’m being honest with myself though, I believe they are another year or two out before Allen’s system and personnel have a chance to win more than six games in the East. Indiana’s road to success is developing guys for four and five years, and utilizing their experience and depth against the two and three year phenoms on our schedule. I do get the feeling he is ahead of schedule though, so I am changing my prediction from 5-7 to 6-7.

 

[ufo33]

5-7 and no bowl is likely

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

Offensive Line
6'3 307
6'4 297
6'7 301
6'5 307
6'4 307
6'2 292
6'5 303
6'5 285
6'4 331
6'6 266
6'3 304
6'7 320
6'6 317
6'4 308
6'5 268
6'2 255
6'3 316
6'8 360
6'6 298
6'2 288

Outside of a few mostly freshman that need to put on weight, I don't see the size issue.

 

[82hoosier]

These weights are somewhat meaningless without a percentage of body fat number next to them.

 

[mobilehoosier]

Just watched a Fort Wayne Dwenger offensive lineman Joe Tippman 6'6" 315 bulldozer going to Wisconsin next fall. IU needs to keep home state talent home.

He's already bigger than our current line. Looking at our first team guys they are barley 300. Cronk and Knight both listed under 310. That is what the BIG guys noticed. Smallish linemen. We do have a couple bigger in the two deep but first team are all under 310.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

These weights are somewhat meaningless without a percentage of body fat number next to them.

True but in the videos it doesn't look like a bunch of guys with beer bellies, which is how it used to be.

 

[mobilehoosier]

Offensive Line
6'3 307
6'4 297
6'7 301
6'5 307
6'4 307
6'2 292
6'5 303
6'5 285
6'4 331
6'6 266
6'3 304
6'7 320
6'6 317
6'4 308
6'5 268
6'2 255
6'3 316
6'8 360
6'6 298
6'2 288

Outside of a few mostly freshman that need to put on weight, I don't see the size issue.

Hickory didn't see your post before I made mine. You confirmed what I read.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

Wisconsin's heaviest OL guy is 27 lbs lighter than IU's heaviest OL (thanks to Caleb Jones at 360)
Wisconsin's 2nd heaviest OL guy is 6 lbs lighter than IU's 2nd heaviest OL.

Maybe we have in issue with fat to weight ratio (maybe) but it's not a size issue.

 

[Hoosier009]

Just curious, why Ramsey when we have a QB that has
more experience, has played in a bowl game, and only
has 1 year left?

Experience with this offense and team. Dawkins is on a learning curve despite his experience. Dawkins will play and help us win game . Love what he brings inside the red zone.

 

[IUgradman]

I too have begun opening myself up to the idea of a surprise season. One thing is clear, Tom Allen is doing his thing. And frankly, I like it. I appreciate how much fun the kids appear to be having. If I’m being honest with myself though, I believe they are another year or two out before Allen’s system and personnel have a chance to win more than six games in the East. Indiana’s road to success is developing guys for four and five years, and utilizing their experience and depth against the two and three year phenoms on our schedule. I do get the feeling he is ahead of schedule though, so I am changing my prediction from 5-7 to 6-7.

We can’t afford to wait four or five years to get to a bowl game, especially when Purdue turned things around in a year. Recruiting will dry up and the program will be dead in the water, no different than the DiNardo or Lynch years.

 

[mushroomgod_1]

Wisconsin's heaviest OL guy is 27 lbs lighter than IU's heaviest OL (thanks to Caleb Jones at 360)
Wisconsin's 2nd heaviest OL guy is 6 lbs lighter than IU's 2nd heaviest OL.

Maybe we have in issue with fat to weight ratio (maybe) but it's not a size issue.

For me, there's no issue with the OL, period.

As for the DL, some of our key guys are somewhat undersized v. elite competition.....guys like Everett (6-3, 260), Sykes (6-2, 252) and Stallings (6-2, 242).. Also, some of our run stopper guys, although over 300 lbs, are only 6' tall.

The prototypical DE these days in the BT is more like 6'4"-6'5", 270 lbs while the DTs are usually 6'2"-6'4", 300 lbs.

Obviously there are many exceptions. I looked at UM's highly regarded DEs. Gary is 6'5" 283 lbs, but Winovich is only 6'3" 255 lbs..

 

[td75]

Wisconsin's offensive lines consist of players that usually stand between 6-4 and 6-7, weighing 285lbs-320lbs. They occasionally land a four star lineman but most of them are actually two and three star recruits out of high school.

Where they do a fabulous job is coaching them to learn how to run block and get away with holding. I think their coaches must emphasize hand placement, leverage AND holding more than most staffs. Couple that with a run heavy gameplan, come hell or high water, and they'll run the ball down your throat if you give them the option.

I went to an IU-WI game in Bloomington years back, I believe it was 2009. 24 of the first 25 plays WI ran were running plays...right at Indiana. It was VERY clear from the start what their intentions were. They were going to run the ball down our throats unless we made them pass.

IU stopped them just barely enough and in the second half Wisconsin went away from their gameplan and IU almost upset them because of it. I counted the first 25 plays from my seat and I hollered RUN!!! as loud as I could. Those were also the days of IU having mediocre defensive coordinators, too.

 

[Indianaftw]

None and I mean NONE of the Big 10 guys opinions mean crap IMO and I respect DiNardo. They looked lost in their reviews of IU and I watched. They also never ever mentioned Ballou and Rhea and the results they have achieved. Ballou is straight out of ND and compared the strides the OL has made to the best Offensive line in the country last year. Well all find out soon enough!

 

[Hoosiers Rising]

None and I mean NONE of the Big 10 guys opinions mean crap IMO and I respect DiNardo. They looked lost in their reviews of IU and I watched. They also never ever mentioned Ballou and Rhea and the results they have achieved. Ballou is straight out of ND and compared the strides the OL has made to the best Offensive line in the country last year. Well all find out soon enough!

Two weeks from tomorrow, can't wait!

 

[mushroomgod_1]

None and I mean NONE of the Big 10 guys opinions mean crap IMO and I respect DiNardo. They looked lost in their reviews of IU and I watched. They also never ever mentioned Ballou and Rhea and the results they have achieved. Ballou is straight out of ND and compared the strides the OL has made to the best Offensive line in the country last year. Well all find out soon enough!

I think their show on IU was really affected by being the first day of practice. I watched their show on Minnesota, and they had a lot more specific story lines going. A very large part of that was because Minnesota had had something like 7 practices and they had more to talk about. But I must also say that, for whatever reason, they just didn't seem interested in the IU situation, even compared to places like Minnesota & Rutgers. They just seemed convinced that this team isn't going to do anything special.

 

[IndyIUFan66]

My major concern is DL. Can we hold up over the season. Are we big enough. Wish Nate Hoff had one more year.

I actually think they are much deeper and more athletic on DL/DE now. By my count there are a good 10 DL and then 3-4 more true FR who are in wings). Unlike years past, trunk IU will be more confortanle with a consistent rotation to ideally be less gassed in the 2nd half. I also think the DE pass rushers will be better this year than we’ve seen in awhile.

LB situation now looks better than first looked and think we will see rotation of at least 4 players regularly vs last year mainly just 2 (which everyone stated was too much for 2 guys even if they we’re great players).

DB depth has real speed & athleticism & bet is best we’ve had in years. Ex: I liked grit of Dutra, but saw him burned deep numerous times. He seemed like a 4.7 guy. Think we are now a 4.5 or better club there now.

I like the size of the OL but I still think that is biggest area of “prove it” on team, to see if we can run & have time to throw? More so than the D which Allen, Hagen & coaches seem to have playing at a higher baseline now.

 

[IndyIUFan66]

I hate statements like "we can beat every team on our schedule" and "we could lose to every team on our schedule".

They are truisms, like "A meteorite could hit my house tonight while I'm sleeping and kill everyone there". A true statement, but not something not really worth discussing.

So let's be honest and say there's no way in hell we beat OSU at OSU or Michigan at Michigan, or lose to BSU in Bloomington. (and yes, I know Bill Lynch lost here to Brady Hoke. It's still not going to happen).

Agree on silly & safe truisms being meaningless. But...

IU has played UM to OT twice in recent years. And for sure was in the game to at least 4th quarter against MSU, OSU, PSU many times last three years.

I am not delusional to say those are “rack em” wins this year, but in week 4 for us, in only game 3 after a week 3 bye, I think MSU at home is winnable.

Michigan has not been as dominant of late and we played them tough last few years.

OSU is on road )tough by definition) but there is a chance that is a two 5-0, national TV game, and one intangible...week before OSU plays AT Penn St. They could be knicked up.

Penn St is at IU. We have played them well too and TBD if without Sequan Barkley (1-man wrecking crew) they will be as dominant?

IU could lose all 4, but I don’t see it as “no way in hell” as you as I do think the S&C results will be seen on field this year, and trough younger in some areas, think we are way more athletic than in the past. And playmakers Marcilino Ball,Sykes, Westbrook & Hale all back gives IU a real shot in the arm we did not have last season! TBD

 

[mobilehoosier]

Agree wth Shroom: they just weren’t excited by visiting IU. We have to stop losing games we’re supposed to win I.e. Maryland and Purdue. Win those two and the visit is much different. Up to us to earn respect. I expect this year will be like last. I hope we win a few more. Need to.
Go Hoosiers!

 

[Hoosiers Rising]

I think their show on IU was really affected by being the first day of practice. I watched their show on Minnesota, and they had a lot more specific story lines going. A very large part of that was because Minnesota had had something like 7 practices and they had more to talk about. But I must also say that, for whatever reason, they just didn't seem interested in the IU situation, even compared to places like Minnesota & Rutgers. They just seemed convinced that this team isn't going to do anything special.

I watched that show but in general I don't watch BTN. If an IU game is on I turn to the channel and immediately turn the volume down and turn on Fish and Buck. You would think they would want viewership but I guess that is not where their bread is buttered.

 

[fkfootball]

The college football world has zero respect for us. Bruce Feldman and Howard Mandel have us going 4-8 and they have Kentucky going 8-4.

We would beat UK by 10 pts at least.

 

[mushroomgod_1]

Agree on silly & safe truisms being meaningless. But...

IU has played UM to OT twice in recent years. And for sure was in the game to at least 4th quarter against MSU, OSU, PSU many times last three years.

I am not delusional to say those are “rack em” wins this year, but in week 4 for us, in only game 3 after a week 3 bye, I think MSU at home is winnable.

Michigan has not been as dominant of late and we played them tough last few years.

OSU is on road )tough by definition) but there is a chance that is a two 5-0, national TV game, and one intangible...week before OSU plays AT Penn St. They could be knicked up.

Penn St is at IU. We have played them well too and TBD if without Sequan Barkley (1-man wrecking crew) they will be as dominant?

IU could lose all 4, but I don’t see it as “no way in hell” as you as I do think the S&C results will be seen on field this year, and trough younger in some areas, think we are way more athletic than in the past. And playmakers Marcilino Ball,Sykes, Westbrook & Hale all back gives IU a real shot in the arm we did not have last season! TBD

I only said no chance with respect to the away games at OSU & UM.

The home games against MSU & PSU are very doubtful, but it would not be a total shock if we won one.

 

[Crimson Crush]

The college football world has zero respect for us. Bruce Feldman and Howard Mandel have us going 4-8 and they have Kentucky going 8-4.

We would beat UK by 10 pts at least.

That’s the way you want it though, really, if you are IU: you want every team overlooking your team. That works to a team’s advantage. You have a better shot at knocking off somebody if they come in overconfident and thinking they can go through the motions. It’s actually a positive.

 

[cshartle123]

We can’t afford to wait four or five years to get to a bowl game, especially when Purdue turned things around in a year. Recruiting will dry up and the program will be dead in the water, no different than the DiNardo or Lynch years.

I agree, which is why I said it will take another year or two to go BEYOND six wins.

 

[iubud]

...this is now the team and program of Tom Allen. He seems to have a very firm grasp of everything and is running the show as he wants. It seems like everyone is buying in and LEO is taking over. Team chemistry cannot be overstated.

I felt all along 2019 would be our true "breakout" year and this would be somewhat of a rebuilding year due to all the losses on D, QB, etc.; combined with our youth. As I count it, 59 players on our roster are either freshman or sophomore in eligibility.

However, the way CTA addressed some roster issues with grad transfers (hope he never has to do so much again); the apparent transformations in strength, speed and explosiveness; and the overall talent level improving make me think this can be a surprise season.

I've gone on record that I think we can beat every team on our schedule. Of course, the stars have to align to beat tOSU. That said, I also think we could lose to every team on our schedule. We have yet to win every game we should win, don't win enough of the toss up games and rarely pull an upset. This is where team chemistry and improved depth and talent come into play.

It is summer and I am optimistic. I am officially going on record for 7-5. I even see decent routes to 8 and even 9 wins. Come @ me if you want.

The grad transfer rules helps programs like ours. Players from the top programs that get recruited over or lose status due to injury can come to IU and step in to a starting role or an a role of greater contribution. We can get a good player that wasn't available to us as a recruit that has gotten better and has a D1 resume.

I would be happy to sign one per year in the areas that we can always use depth. Both lines and linebackers require more depth as the season winds down. The junior college player still is an option, but I like the grad transfer better. It may not be fair to compare the talent level of someone like Lagow to Dawkins, but I'm going to do it at some point this year. I expect to go the grad transfer path more often than juco in the future.

 

[pgrkm]

That’s the way you want it though, really, if you are IU: you want every team overlooking your team. That works to a team’s advantage. You have a better shot at knocking off somebody if they come in overconfident and thinking they can go through the motions. It’s actually a positive.

Despite being a perennial underdog, I honestly cannot remember the last time this program pulled off a "shock the world" upset. You would think after 130 years of futility, we would have more than '45, '67 and six Mallory era teams to show for it.
Last season, Iowa State goes into Norman a 28 underdog to the Sooners, conquerors of Ohio State, and walks out with the victory. It is absolutely inconceivable that IU could achieve a similar result against OSU in Columbus. Why, do programs like Northwestern, Kansas State, and Duke find temporary success on the gridiron and IU continues to struggle decade after decade? I posed that question to Mark Deal at football outing a few years ago. He adroitly deflected the question and pivoted to another topic.

 

[td75]

When Indiana has been in a position to pull off an upset, the Big Ten officiating has usually done its best to interfere. This has happened almost yearly in the past 10 years.

The Bill Lynch chewing gum game at UM is a fine example. Playing at Iowa that same year comes to mind. Two years ago against Ohio State when they mugged our WR in the endzone on the last play of the game with no call. Many, many games I could talk about..last year in East Lansing the official didn't have the sack to pull the flag on an awful holding penalty that would've probably been curtains for MSU had it been called properly.

You've got to get those calls going your way, especially when you're a big dog going into the game. The officiating in the Big Ten is lousy, has been for years.

 

[IUgradman]

I’ll tell you why- IU doesn’t care about football and half asses it with respect to investment and effort put into winning. Bad coaches are hired and paid far less than their conference peers. Facilities are mediocre at best. The fanbase is conditioned to accept mediocrity.