Nothing short of a coup

[mattndallas]

you're an american. testimony was given that autopen signatures were directed without knowing who gave final approval. the autopen itself is just a totem. the question of who was directing executive orders etc is what's salient. who was in charge of our government while biden was being sequestered. it's the biggest scandal of the last half century and nothing else comes close.

 

[twenty02]

you're an american. testimony was given that autopen signatures were directed without knowing who gave final approval. the autopen itself is just a totem. the question of who was directing executive orders etc is what's salient. who was in charge of our government while biden was being sequestered. it's the biggest scandal of the last half century and nothing else comes close.

Biden has put out a statement that covered this. What a ridiculous waste of time. Like this fkn board.

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/05/biden-trump-autopen-investigation-mental-fitness

I've never heard of a coup when the the supposed victim of it says it's bullshit. But here we are.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Biden has put out a statement that covered this. What a ridiculous waste of time. Like this fkn board.

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/05/biden-trump-autopen-investigation-mental-fitness

I've never heard of a coup when the the supposed victim of it says it's bullshit. But here we are.

lmao what else is he going to say. let's hear from the incompetent person with memory problems who was sequestered from the public becaues of same opine to his own mental capacity

 

[twenty02]

lmao what else is he going to say. let's hear from the incompetent person with memory problems

It doesn't matter. He was the President. He could have been slinging his feces at the walls of the Oval office....He wasn't found incompetent for service and removed of power by the cabinet. So this is a complete waste of time.

 

[mattndallas]

lmao what else is he going to say. let's hear from the incompetent person with memory problems who was sequestered from the public becaues of same opine to his own mental capacity

Like saying J Howard Marshall was the victim of Anna Nicole Smith, and not Marshall's heirs.

 

[mcmurtry66]

It doesn't matter. He was the President. He could have been slinging his feces at the walls of the Oval office....He wasn't found incompetent for service and removed of power by the cabinet. So this is a complete waste of time.

i think you're right but i also think the orders etc challenging them are probably a matter of first impression. my guess again is that you're right nothing will come of it re vacating anything however again in my view it's without question the biggest scandal of the last half century and heads need to roll. anyway associated with it needs to be out of politics. you tether it to the fact that harris was then just appointed nominee and dems really, really got fckd. a weekend at bernie's president who was nothing more than a proxy followed by harris and walz which gave rise to trump. the left should not let this go. they should be leading the charge. htis group surrounding biden fcked the dem party and are responsible for trump

 

[mcmurtry66]

Like saying J Howard Marshall was the victim of Anna Nicole Smith, and not Marshall's heirs.

remember THAT howard stern lmao

 

[jet812]

It doesn't matter. He was the President. He could have been slinging his feces at the walls of the Oval office....He wasn't found incompetent for service and removed of power by the cabinet. So this is a complete waste of time.

What were the criteria & evaluations for assessment of his competency & who performed them?

 

[mcmurtry66]

What were the criteria & evaluations for assessment of his competency & who performed them?

They had/have his approval.

By the way, of course someone else used the autopen. That's how it works. They're used when the President authorizes them to be used. The former President has already made a statement that he authorized its use every time it was used. That ends this silly saga. On to the next!

We must know if Biden authorized its use in order to maintain public confidence in the office.

authorization and approval aren't what's germane. nor is use of the autopen. what is germane was whether he 1) actually was the person to give approval of each and every act. what evidence exists related to same. were there memos? writings? who witnessed this stuff. let's hear from them and 2) whether he was competent to know what he was doing. on each and every act.

Biden insisted he didn’t sign executive order just weeks after doing so, Speaker Johnson reveals​

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Read the above. The man was cooked. This has to be a matter of first impression and certainly worthy of investigation. it's sad our representatives are largely worthless

and no i don't believe anything will come of it for myriad reasons. legal and otherwise

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

authorization and approval aren't what's germane. nor is use of the autopen. what is germane was whether he 1) actually was the person to give approval of each and every act. what evidence exists related to same. were there memos? writings? who witnessed this stuff. let's hear from them and 2) whether he was competent to know what he was doing. on each and every act.

Biden insisted he didn’t sign executive order just weeks after doing so, Speaker Johnson reveals​

House Speaker Mike Johnson revealed President Biden insisted to him he hadn’t issued an executive order freezing liquid natural gas export permits — despite doing so less than a month p…

nypost.com





Read the above. The man was cooked. This has to be a matter of first impression and certainly worthy of investigation. it's sad our representatives are largely worthless

and no i don't believe anything will come of it for myriad reasons. legal and otherwise

The extent of the coverup of President Biden's mental and physical decline is worthy of investigation. Nothing will ever come of the autopen issue. I feel like I wasted time just typing the word.

 

[mcmurtry66]

The extent of the coverup of President Biden's mental and physical decline is worthy of investigation. Nothing will ever come of the autopen issue. I feel like I wasted time just typing the word.

because you don't understand what we're explaining to you. esoteric legal shit. you're focused on the autopen.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

because you don't understand what we're explaining to you. esoteric legal shit

By "we're," you mean you, but OK.

I'm heading to the golf course shortly to play in a golf outing in this crazy heat. I'm pre-gaming with a lot of water.

 

[mcmurtry66]

By "we're," you mean you, but OK.

I'm heading to the golf course shortly to play in a golf outing in this crazy heat. I'm pre-gaming with a lot of water.

by me and coh. you are focused on the auto pen. remove the autopen. it's not what is important

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

by me and coh. you are focused on the auto pen. remove the autopen. it's not what is important

It's important in that many, probably not you, seem to believe that EAs (specifically pardons) signed by autopen could be ruled invalid. That's a silly pipe dream that will never happen and is really what I, crazed and 20 have been trying to address.

 

[mcmurtry66]

It's important in that many, probably not you, seem to believe that EAs (specifically pardons) signed by autopen could be ruled invalid. That's a silly pipe dream that will never happen and is really what I, crazed and 20 have been trying to address.

nothing will come of it but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't. again auto pen is what so many are fixated on and it distracts. biden insisted he didn't authorize an executive order accdg to johnson. that's frightening. so again the questions with re executive orders and pardons are 1) was he competent to issue them 2) was he aware of them and were others doing it without his knowledge. if so who.

today for him to issue a nunc pro tunc validation is of no moment. who is to say he's competent to do so.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

today for him to issue a nunc pro tunc validation is of no moment. who is to say he's competent to do so.

Serious question (for once)...legally, isn't it more important to ask who is to say he isn't?
I really don't know the answer, as IANAWCL.

 

[BradStevens]

Like saying J Howard Marshall was the victim of Anna Nicole Smith, and not Marshall's heirs.

That was money well spent on Marshall’s part.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Serious question (for once)...legally, isn't it more important to ask who is to say he isn't?
I really don't know the answer, as IANAWCL.

off the cuff you're probably right. and in this context who really knows. it's not like dragging in an allegedly incompetent injured person for a hearing to see if a gal is necessary. tapper didn't do the dems any favors with his book.

but at the end of the day it's just something new to argue about as nothing will come of it

 

[CO. Hoosier]

It's important in that many, probably not you, seem to believe that EAs (specifically pardons) signed by autopen could be ruled invalid. That's a silly pipe dream that will never happen and is really what I, crazed and 20 have been trying to address.

The autopen as a stand-alone item is only for aesthetics. It carries no legal significance. Executive actions must be taken by the president regardless of whether he uses an auto pen or makes his mark with an “X”.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

The autopen as a stand-alone item is only for aesthetics. It carries no legal significance. Executive actions must be taken by the president regardless of whether he uses an auto pen or makes his mark with an “X”.

I think we agree. Depends on what you mean by “taken by.”

 

[ribbont]

No J6er killed anyone so none were charged with murder. It can be argued that actions on that day led to some police officer deaths, but not connected enough for a charge of murder or man slaughter. The one person killed was killed by the Capitol Police.

To add, the DOJ abused the 1512 law and charged many with it to apply pressure for a plea deal. Luckily SCOTUS shot that abuse down, but too late for many. One even killed himself.

New U.S. Attorney Opens Inquiry Into Unlawful Use of Felony Charges Against J6 Defendants

Truth. Passion. Integrity.

kootenaijournal.com

 

[DANC]

Were there actually J6ers, that merely walked peacefully through the Capitol, that got "serious jail time"?

Honest question... I don't know the answer. I do know that the ones that damaged property, and assaulted, even KILLED people... got some serious jail time.

I think all facets of how Biden managed his duties as President, or didn't manage, should be investigated and scrutinized. The auto pen stuff is pretty superficial...that's not really where everyone deserves to determine where the issues lied. But any of it is fair game, in my opinion.

Just remember, as we have seen, when you open the door for scrutiny on certain things, that leaves that door open for scrutiny on any/all administrations...or it should anyway. Not sure The Donald wants that. Probably why he isn't pushing this investigation much.

DC Circuit allows trespassing charge used to prosecute more than 1,400 Jan. 6 defendants

Prosecutors don’t have to show that a Jan. 6, 2021, trespassing defendant was aware that the U.S. Capitol grounds were restricted because of the presence of then-Vice President Mike Pence, a federal appeals court ruled Tuesday.

www.abajournal.com

 

[Spartans9312]