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Do you have a link to the transcript of her testimony?

I read part of it and she said that the autopen procedure she was supervising was one that was passed down from the other administrations before Biden. Overseeing the fact that signatures were affixed does not mean she was making the decisions on what was to become policy without Biden's approval.
 
Do you have a link to the transcript of her testimony?

I read part of it and she said that the autopen procedure she was supervising was one that was passed down from the other administrations before Biden. Overseeing the fact that signatures were affixed does not mean she was making the decisions on what was to become policy without Biden's approval.
She was not making the decisions and nothing she said supports that nonsensical claim. There really was nothing at all exciting about what she said. This autopen quest is a ridiculous waste of time that will lead to zilch.
 
She was not making the decisions and nothing she said supports that nonsensical claim. There really was nothing at all exciting about what she said. This autopen quest is a ridiculous waste of time that will lead to zilch.
I don't get it. There is a lot of fertile ground to investigate w/r/t Biden's declining mental abilities, when it really started, and who knew what when. I think they should investigate it. But this stuff seems like they're trying to intentionally mislead people as to the extent of all this stuff.
 
She was not making the decisions and nothing she said supports that nonsensical claim. There really was nothing at all exciting about what she said. This autopen quest is a ridiculous waste of time that will lead to zilch.
the issue isn't whether she was making the decisions the issue was who actually was making the decisions. it's part of a broader investigation i would hope with re to biden's patent coverup, proxies, etc. that msm hasn't devoted damn near all of it's attention to this vexing. it's an incredible story
 
I don't get it. There is a lot of fertile ground to investigate w/r/t Biden's declining mental abilities, when it really started, and who knew what when. I think they should investigate it. But this stuff seems like they're trying to intentionally mislead people as to the extent of all this stuff.
Concur. There’s a lot about what MAGAs focus on that makes no sense and are obviously going to amount to nothing at all.
 
Do you have a link to the transcript of her testimony?

I read part of it and she said that the autopen procedure she was supervising was one that was passed down from the other administrations before Biden. Overseeing the fact that signatures were affixed does not mean she was making the decisions on what was to become policy without Biden's approval.
Did you read the thread and see her background and how the autopen signatures promoted programs she set up and supported?

Of course she's not going to say she wasn't the one deciding what to sign. That's what these hearings are for - to determine who did authorize the autopen signatures.

Doesn't it seem just a little curious to you that the autopen signatures made by her supported her programs and agendas?
 
She was not making the decisions and nothing she said supports that nonsensical claim. There really was nothing at all exciting about what she said. This autopen quest is a ridiculous waste of time that will lead to zilch.
You have no idea that's the case. You're not in the hearing and asking questions, yet you make defnitive statements.

You're speaking from ignorance.
 
the issue isn't whether she was making the decisions the issue was who actually was making the decisions. it's part of a broader investigation i would hope with re to biden's patent coverup, proxies, etc. that msm hasn't devoted damn near all of it's attention to this vexing. it's an incredible story
According to her, the President made the decisions during her time in a job requiring frequent interaction with her. Next up? I don’t know.
 
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Did you read the thread and see her background and how the autopen signatures promoted programs she set up and supported?

Of course she's not going to say she wasn't the one deciding what to sign. That's what these hearings are for - to determine who did authorize the autopen signatures.

Doesn't it seem just a little curious to you that the autopen signatures made by her supported her programs and agendas?
No. I'd assume anyone in the White House was put there by Biden and he supported their programs.

Now, the issue of the incestuous relationship between NGOs and govt and the money being sent to NGOs to do what amounts to policy work that should be transparently vetted to the American people is something I definitely think has legs. That's one of the things Musk talked about.
 
I don't get it. There is a lot of fertile ground to investigate w/r/t Biden's declining mental abilities, when it really started, and who knew what when. I think they should investigate it. But this stuff seems like they're trying to intentionally mislead people as to the extent of all this stuff.
No, no Brad, Aloha knows definitely that there’s no need to look into it…
 
You have no idea that's the case. You're not in the hearing and asking questions, yet you make defnitive statements.

You're speaking from ignorance.
Your post was ignorant. Mine matches what was released of her testimony.
 
According to her, the President made the decisions during her time in a job requiring frequent interaction with her. Next up? I don’t know.
But Tanden, who said she had limited interactions with Biden, described an approval process that left her in the dark about who specifically was giving final approval on the decisions to use the automatic signature tool, sources told Fox News.

Tanden testified that to get approval for the use of autopen signatures she would send decision memos to members of Biden's inner circle. However, she added that she was not aware of what actions or approvals took place between the time she sent the decision memo and the time she received it back with the necessary approval.
 
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I don't get it. There is a lot of fertile ground to investigate w/r/t Biden's declining mental abilities, when it really started, and who knew what when. I think they should investigate it. But this stuff seems like they're trying to intentionally mislead people as to the extent of all this stuff.
What 'stuff' are you referring to? Who is intentionally misleading people?
 
No, no Brad, Aloha knows definitely that there’s no need to look into it…
Look into the autopen nonsense all you want. My informed opinion is that it will lead to zilch. Just a waste of time. The Republican Party used to be the serious party and the Democrats were in the silly party. Now we don’t really have a serious party.
 
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The link you posted. It's title is "The Unelected President" with her picture. That's misleadingly suggesting that she was the one making the decisions.
Oh, you're talking about the link. Obviously they have a political point of view.

I thought you were talking about the hearings.
 
Look into it all you want. My informed opinion is that it will lead to zilch. Just a waste of time. The Republican Party used to be the serious party and the Democrats were in the silly party. Now we don’t really have a serious party.
Of course it will lead to nothing. DC never punishes their own.
 
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the dishonesty of dems and hte media in covering up biden's condition and lying ot the public is an embarrassment? certainly that's what you are referring to?
That’s worth investigating. The autopen thing is silliness. I don’t get embarrassed by what Democrats do politically because I’m not a Democrat. Republican political silliness is an embarrassment for me.
 
That’s worth investigating. The autopen thing is silliness. I don’t get embarrassed by what Democrats do politically because I’m not a Democrat. Republican political silliness is an embarrassment for me.
you're an american. testimony was given that autopen signatures were directed without knowing who gave final approval. the autopen itself is just a totem. the question of who was directing executive orders etc is what's salient. who was in charge of our government while biden was being sequestered. it's the biggest scandal of the last half century and nothing else comes close.
 
you're an american. testimony was given that autopen signatures were directed without knowing who gave final approval. the autopen itself is just a totem. the question of who was directing executive orders etc is what's salient. who was in charge of our government while biden was being sequestered. it's the biggest scandal of the last half century and nothing else comes close.
The autopen part is silly in that it will lead to zilch. Everything signed by it will remain legal. A statement by Biden saying he authorized its use every time ends it completely. The extent of the measures the WH took to obscure Biden’s physical and mental decline is worth looking into - hopefully leading to measures that should be taken to ensure more transparency about the mental and physical health of our Presidents in the future.
 
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No. The autopen part is silly in that it will lead to zilch. Everything signed by it will remain legal. A statement by Biden saying he authorized its use every time ends it completely.
is it a difficult legal challenge. of course. hell for all i know it might be a matter of first impression. "A statement by Biden saying he authorized its use every time ends it completely." what if there's evidence to demonstrate that he lacked the capacity to authorize same and that aides simply did it upon the direction of others or their own volition. a statement of a competent president saying i authorized the use of the autopen ends it. the statement of a president who was mentally unfit is a different story. now do i think anything will come of it. no. i don't htink much of our gov.
 
J6ers disrupted the government for a few hours and got serious jail time for walking peacefully throught the Capitol.

But..... nothing to see here, I'm sure.

Were there actually J6ers, that merely walked peacefully through the Capitol, that got "serious jail time"?

Honest question... I don't know the answer. I do know that the ones that damaged property, and assaulted, even KILLED people... got some serious jail time.

I think all facets of how Biden managed his duties as President, or didn't manage, should be investigated and scrutinized. The auto pen stuff is pretty superficial...that's not really where everyone deserves to determine where the issues lied. But any of it is fair game, in my opinion.

Just remember, as we have seen, when you open the door for scrutiny on certain things, that leaves that door open for scrutiny on any/all administrations...or it should anyway. Not sure The Donald wants that. Probably why he isn't pushing this investigation much.
 
Were there actually J6ers, that merely walked peacefully through the Capitol, that got "serious jail time"?

Honest question... I don't know the answer. I do know that the ones that damaged property, and assaulted, even KILLED people... got some serious jail time.

I think all facets of how Biden managed his duties as President, or didn't manage, should be investigated and scrutinized. The auto pen stuff is pretty superficial...that's not really where everyone deserves to determine where the issues lied. But any of it is fair game, in my opinion.

Just remember, as we have seen, when you open the door for scrutiny on certain things, that leaves that door open for scrutiny on any/all administrations...or it should anyway. Not sure The Donald wants that. Probably why he isn't pushing this investigation much.
No J6er killed anyone so none were charged with murder. It can be argued that actions on that day led to some police officer deaths, but not connected enough for a charge of murder or man slaughter. The one person killed was killed by the Capitol Police.
 
No J6er killed anyone so none were charged with murder. It can be argued that actions on that day led to some police officer deaths, but not connected enough for a charge of murder or man slaughter. The one person killed was killed by the Capitol Police.
Thanks for the clarification. I certainly didn't word it well. But "walking peacefully" rarely ever results in damages and deaths.
 
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