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Just watched BTN for their analysis of every B1G playoff game. The ex player was an ex Iowa player, sorry I don't remember names well. He said that if IU's defense can stop their run and turn it into a one dimensional game, forcing the ND QB to beat IU by passing, then IU has a good chance to win the game.

But you are right ... National Sports tv networks, podcasters, and X football experts don't think much of IU football nor their chances.

I have no doubt that IU wins the game in South Bend.
 
It's winnable, we have the better QB...

The 3 keys will be:

1)
We simply can't give up big plays to them on Special Teams... If we attempt to go head to head with them in that area we'll lose, they simply have more team speed than we do... Kick away from them, kick it out of bounds, or don't kick to them at all..., but don't allow them to turn Special Teams play into a foot race...

2)
We have to limit their explosive plays on Offense... They'll get a few but we can't let them turn the thing into a bunch of individual foot races (see #1)...

3)
We have to execute in all three phases nearly perfectly... No unforced turnovers, no foolish drive killing penalties...

If we're in it near the end, I like our chances... They have more talent on paper but they only get to put 11 guys out there at a time, just like us...
 
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It's winnable, we have the better QB...

The 3 keys will be:

1)
We simply can't give up big plays to them on Special Teams... If we attempt to go head to head with them in that area we'll lose, they simply have more team speed than we do...

2)
We have to limit their explosive plays on Offense... They'll get a few but we can't let them turn the thing into a bunch of individual foot races (see #1)...

3)
We have to execute in all three phases nearly perfectly... No unforced turnovers, no foolish drive killing penalties...

If we're in it near the end, I like our chances... They have more talent on paper but they only get to put 11 guys out there at a time, just like use...
We CANNOT let their RB HURDLE over our DBs ... 😄
 
Just watched BTN for their analysis of every B1G playoff game. The ex player was an ex Iowa player, sorry I don't remember names well. He said that if IU's defense can stop their run and turn it into a one dimensional game, forcing the ND QB to beat IU by passing, then IU has a good chance to win the game.

But you are right ... National Sports tv networks, podcasters, and X football experts don't think much of IU football nor their chances.

I have no doubt that IU wins the game in South Bend.
Anthony Herron most likely. He's spot on too. Their strength is running the football and we have the #1 rush defense in the nation. They're also great against the run, so it will be strength on strength on both sides of the ball. Rourke is a much better passer than Riley, so I also like our odds if we can stop the run. That and limiting mistakes, looking at you punt team, will be the keys to the game imo.
 
I honestly think if IU plays a "clean game"...no catastrophic turnovers, no homerun touchdowns given up...then IU is the better overall team, and will win the game.

Notre Dame will run the ball, but IU's run defense is the best they've seen all year long. They'll have to grind it out, and work for their success running the ball. Leonard will probably have to make some plays with his feet. I suspect they'll have enough success to keep the ball moving somewhat regularly. But hopefully IU can limit Love's big gouge plays that they nearly always had to break teams backs during the year.

On the other side of the ball, I hope IU commits to the run more than they did at OSU. Rourke gets a ton of accolades and credit, as he should. But our running game is the safest bet to help us move the ball and keep the game clean, against ND's defense. And then obviously, it creates more time and more 1 on 1's for Sarratt and company to make plays.

Run the ball a fair bit, plan for some quick hitting passes. Really, really try to avoid obvious drop back passing situations where Rourke needs good protection and time.

My keys to the game are IU running the ball effectively, and getting effective pressure on Leonard. If we can hit him a few times, and speed him up, he'll give us the ball. And if we can run the ball on them early, that'll open everything up for us offensively.
 
It's not unreasonable. IU has shown it's great at running up the score on lessor teams. The one opportunity against a better team, they wet the bed. Unforced errors. This is a great opportunity to show IU belongs.
 
Anthony Herron most likely. He's spot on too. Their strength is running the football and we have the #1 rush defense in the nation. They're also great against the run, so it will be strength on strength on both sides of the ball. Rourke is a much better passer than Riley, so I also like our odds if we can stop the run. That and limiting mistakes, looking at you punt team, will be the keys to the game imo.

I don’t think they’re great against the run. 140 ypg and ranked 51. USC averaged 7ypc. I like our run offense against them
 
Looks like ESPN's analysts are seeing us lose against ND-some by a huge margin. Looks like locker room fodder to me.

Probably the same experts that predicted a 5 win season.
Nothing will change with these clowns until we have an extended period of success.
Until then,the will say it’s because we had an easy schedule,etc
 
I don’t think they’re great against the run. 140 ypg and ranked 51. USC averaged 7ypc. I like our run offense against them
You're right, but they're 3rd against the pass and 3rd in scoring. 6th on 3rd down and 9th overall. They're good and so is our O, and running the ball on them will be key to us winning. We also can't be one dimensional. That would really play to their strengths on D.
 
Win or lose, this is the best draw we could've gotten by far.
I agree. They have a glaring weakness. If IU gets the lead they have to pass more than they want too. Especially late. Cig just can’t get cute and force the ball in pass pro. I can’t wait. My neighbor is a big Irish fan and his grandfather played for them in the 40s. He’s been talking shit all year.
 
ND -7.5 at some places. Draftkings it's -8.5.

ND has far superior athletes.
We went against other teams with far superior athletes throughout our schedule, ranked higher and all of that, and won all but one of them. Michigan was one of them and we won, so there’s that.
I think coaching plays a factor.
Look no further than than the IU basketball team who supposedly has one of the best rosters on paper and because of the coach, they stink.
 
We went against other teams with far superior athletes throughout our schedule, ranked higher and all of that, and won all but one of them. Michigan was one of them and we won, so there’s that.
I think coaching plays a factor.
Look no further than than the IU basketball team who supposedly has one of the best rosters on paper and because of the coach, they stink.
I think if you put Riley Leonard on Michigan, they beat us that day.

Marcus Freeman isn't the Mike Woodson of college football, unfortunately.

We can win this game, but we're over a TD dog for a reason. If we beat ND, it will be by far our best win of the season.
 
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I think if you put Riley Leonard on Michigan, they beat us that day.

Marcus Freeman isn't the Mike Woodson of college football, unfortunately.

We can win this game, but we're over a TD dog for a reason. If we beat ND, it will be by far our best win of the season.
All hypothetical. At the beginning of the season, we saw OSU, Michigan, Washington and Nebraska on the schedule and pundits were saying all 4 were losses. Are you a reversible jacket guy?
 
Notre Dame gave up 560 yards of offense to a middling Southern Cal team recently. The stats were basically 360 passing yards and 200 rushing yards allowed...

I like Indiana's chances.
And...ND's last two touchdowns were pick 6's, both basically out of USC's endzone. Even if USC kicked field goals there, heck, even if they just get stopped on downs...that game is completely different.

If IU can take care of the ball, they'll have a great chance to win this game.
 
I think the team should be better prepared for the hostile environment and the elements this time around (e.g., no unforced dropped snaps from our punter this time around)
Not to mention OSU holds over 100k and Notre Dame is 75ish….still big but much less daunting crowd size. Similar to MSU in attendance. Hopefully, IU fans hit the secondary market hard and bring some balance to the crowd.
 
I think if you put Riley Leonard on Michigan, they beat us that day.

Marcus Freeman isn't the Mike Woodson of college football, unfortunately.

We can win this game, but we're over a TD dog for a reason. If we beat ND, it will be by far our best win of the season.
Your first point is likely true. But if you put ND's D line on Michigan, instead of theirs, we probably score 40 on them. Goes both ways with these sorts of hypotheticals.

Your last point is also true. But if we play similarly to how we played against UCLA, Nebraska, Washington, MSU, or Purdue, we'll have a great chance to beat Notre Dame. Basically meaning I don't think we have to play our best football of the year to beat them.
 
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I think if you put Riley Leonard on Michigan, they beat us that day.

Marcus Freeman isn't the Mike Woodson of college football, unfortunately.

We can win this game, but we're over a TD dog for a reason. If we beat ND, it will be by far our best win of the season.
Your posts indicate you like/follow Notre Dame football? You can talk about the -7.5 to -8.5 spread & trade players from ND to put them on other schools rosters on the teams IU already played this year to give IU fb losses, if you like. However, if Notre Dame would've sacked up & joined a Conference by now, they wouldn't be hosting a first round CFP game this year.
 
Not to mention OSU holds over 100k and Notre Dame is 75ish….still big but much less daunting crowd size. Similar to MSU in attendance. Hopefully, IU fans hit the secondary market hard and bring some balance to the crowd.
I've been looking at some ND boards. Many are worried we'll have a significant fan presence. Let's hope so.

Also, if Cig wants locker room fodder, he probably won't get it from Freeman, who's pretty benign. But he might want to go print off some of those board posts--the vast majority are already booking trips to New Orleans for the Sugar Bowl. Irish fans are not worried.
 
Nope, a realist. Don't be the guy who has to name call someone whose opinion he disagrees with.
I’m not name calling. But you seem to say “realist” when we won 11 games that you probably projected we wouldn’t. I think most people recognize that ND had the advantage but it’s not impossible to win, just like several said it was impossible to ever get to 11 wins and make the CFP at a school like IU.
 
Not to mention OSU holds over 100k and Notre Dame is 75ish….still big but much less daunting crowd size. Similar to MSU in attendance. Hopefully, IU fans hit the secondary market hard and bring some balance to the crowd.
The design of the stadium makes it much less loud, and much less intimidating too. Playing in South Bend, in the first ever CFP playoff, with touchdown Jesus, and all that...THAT will be intimidating. So the start of the game will be important. But in terms of actual game play once they get in to the flow of the game. Notre Dame stadium isn't nearly as much of a factor as a few of the other stadiums we could have played in.

I'm MUCH more worried about the actual football team we're playing in the stadium, than ND fans themselves.
 
I think the team should be better prepared for the hostile environment and the elements this time around (e.g., no unforced dropped snaps from our punter this time around)
I am not sure how hostile it will be on the 20th. Pretty sure that the students will gone at that time for Christmas break and don't know how many will be able to stick around for the game? Good chance there is some red in the stadium...how much, who knows?
 
The design of the stadium makes it much less loud, and much less intimidating too. Playing in South Bend, in the first ever CFP playoff, with touchdown Jesus, and all that...THAT will be intimidating. So the start of the game will be important. But in terms of actual game play once they get in to the flow of the game. Notre Dame stadium isn't nearly as much of a factor as a few of the other stadiums we could have played in.

I'm MUCH more worried about the actual football team we're playing in the stadium, than ND fans themselves.
And a lot more old people and fewer students than OSU
 
Your first point is likely true. But if you put ND's D line on Michigan, instead of theirs, we probably score 40 on them. Goes both ways with these sorts of hypotheticals.

Your last point is also true. But if we play similarly to how we played against UCLA, Nebraska, Washington, MSU, or Purdue, we'll have a great chance to beat Notre Dame. Basically meaning I don't think we have to play our best football of the year to beat them.
I doubt that, but I guess we're about to see. This site has them ranked as a top 5 DL in the country:


Re our best football, I mean, they're ranked #3 in the country. I think we do have to play at, or near, our best to win.
 
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I've been looking at some ND boards. Many are worried we'll have a significant fan presence. Let's hope so.

Also, if Cig wants locker room fodder, he probably won't get it from Freeman, who's pretty benign. But he might want to go print off some of those board posts--the vast majority are already booking trips to New Orleans for the Sugar Bowl. Irish fans are not worried.
I think Indiana basketball fans are probably most similar to Nebraska football fans nowadays. But there are some similarities to ND football fans as well. But ND's history, and their recent successes, are quite a lot deeper, bigger, and better than either IU basketball or Nebraska football. They're more like the Yankees in baseball. They have perpetual elite street cred. And outside the SEC dominance, they've mostly stayed relevant nationally.

Now...any ND fan, or expert, that is assuming they're going to win because they're "a lot better than IU"...well, I have a feeling they won't feel that way on December 21st, win or lose.
 
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