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Why does the left finance these with billions of taxpayer dollars?
1) it's NGO
2) it's not just the left. Not at all.
3) it's so we can put our tax dollars to work toward a goal the government sees as worthwhile by giving some money vs fully funding a government version of it. Like the Red Cross.
 
1) it's NGO
2) it's not just the left. Not at all.
3) it's so we can put our tax dollars to work toward a goal the government sees as worthwhile by giving some money vs fully funding a government version of it. Like the Red Cross.
80% of Red Cross money goes to administration fees. It doesn’t matter what the name is! It’s crooked as Fk.
 
Source?

Because I'm doubting your claim.

My dad always said during the Korean war, the Red Cross charged for donuts. The Salvation Army gave them out for free.

The Red Cross provides some good services, but their admin costs are high.
 
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My dad always said during the Korean war, the Red Cross charged for donuts. The Salvation Army gave them out for free.

The Red Cross provides some good services, but their admin costs are high.
The link in the very post you responded to disagrees. And I think we can all accept Charity Navigator is a pretty solid source.

3% administrative
6% fundraising
91% programming

That's a pretty well-run NGO if you ask me.
 
The link in the very post you responded to disagrees. And I think we can all accept Charity Navigator is a pretty solid source.

3% administrative
6% fundraising
91% programming

That's a pretty well-run NGO if you ask me.
I'd like to see the actual numbers and what they're calling 'programming'.
 
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I'd like to see the actual numbers and what they're calling 'programming'.
Amy Schumer No GIF by Saturday Night Live
 
My dad always said during the Korean war, the Red Cross charged for donuts. The Salvation Army gave them out for free.

The Red Cross provides some good services, but their admin costs are high.
Salvation Army is a church
 
Vilifying the American Red Cross. What a time to be alive.

Their reports are online. The 2023 Southern & Midwest tornadoes report is illustrative. They spent $6.4M deploying volunteers, paying for things including their meals, airfare, lodging, & vehicles. Which, again, is far cheaper than a government agency contracting with companies to provide those services or doing it with full time government employees (except maybe active duty military, but that takes them away from their primary missions).

The real breakdown/comparison I'd like to see is well regarded NGOs vs. mega-churches. My bet is on the NGOs.

 
Vilifying the American Red Cross. What a time to be alive.

Their reports are online. The 2023 Southern & Midwest tornadoes report is illustrative. They spent $6.4M deploying volunteers, paying for things including their meals, airfare, lodging, & vehicles. Which, again, is far cheaper than a government agency contracting with companies to provide those services or doing it with full time government employees (except maybe active duty military, but that takes them away from their primary missions).

The real breakdown/comparison I'd like to see is well regarded NGOs vs. mega-churches. My bet is on the NGOs.

How much government money are mega-churches receiving compared to NGOs?
 
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Vilifying the American Red Cross. What a time to be alive.

Their reports are online. The 2023 Southern & Midwest tornadoes report is illustrative. They spent $6.4M deploying volunteers, paying for things including their meals, airfare, lodging, & vehicles. Which, again, is far cheaper than a government agency contracting with companies to provide those services or doing it with full time government employees (except maybe active duty military, but that takes them away from their primary missions).

The real breakdown/comparison I'd like to see is well regarded NGOs vs. mega-churches. My bet is on the NGOs.

OK, you want to go there? Let's look at something other than a Red Cross website.



It's a helluva fund raising effort - take donated blood and sell it.




 
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How much government money is mega-churches receiving compared to NGOs?
Great question! I can't seem to find an answer on the internet. Government grants are available for churches and my guess is that churches get billions collectively each year from the government.

One I COULD find was North Carolina giving a total of $26M to churches in 2023. https://ncchurches.org/2023/10/sepa...s-groups-get-26-million-in-nc-taxpayer-money/

Last school year, Indiana gave $439M in school vouchers. Without going through each line of the report to confirm whether the schools are religiously affiliated, my strong impression from scrolling through the list of schools is that the vast majority are religiously affiliated vs. secular private schools. So, the number to religious organizations is definitely lower than the topline $439M number, but I'd bet it's much greater than $300M. https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/...hip Program totaled,the 2023-24 academic year.

If you know where to find the kind of information you're talking about, I'd love to look it over too!


It was obviously a one-off situation, but churches got a total of $7B in PPP loans, which would have entirely gone to administrative costs. https://www.christianitytoday.com/2023/10/covid-study-ppp-loans-cares-act-churches/

For comparison (and the above & 3 below were all first run PPP loans):

Life.church in Oklahoma got a $7M PPP loan for 451 jobs. ($15.5k per job) https://projects.propublica.org/coronavirus/bailouts/loans/life-church-operations-llc-7415837000

ACLU of Texas got $830k for 57 jobs. ($14.5k per job) https://projects.propublica.org/coronavirus/bailouts/loans/aclu-foundation-of-texas-inc-4121427301

Boys & Girls Club of San Leandro, CA got $425k for 104 jobs ($4k per job) https://projects.propublica.org/cor...an-leandro-boys-and-girls-club-inc-3718657200
 
Great question! I can't seem to find an answer on the internet. Government grants are available for churches and my guess is that churches get billions collectively each year from the government.

One I COULD find was North Carolina giving a total of $26M to churches in 2023. https://ncchurches.org/2023/10/sepa...s-groups-get-26-million-in-nc-taxpayer-money/

Last school year, Indiana gave $439M in school vouchers. Without going through each line of the report to confirm whether the schools are religiously affiliated, my strong impression from scrolling through the list of schools is that the vast majority are religiously affiliated vs. secular private schools. So, the number to religious organizations is definitely lower than the topline $439M number, but I'd bet it's much greater than $300M. https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/database-indiana-private-school-payments-voucher-program#:~:text=Indiana's Choice Scholarship Program totaled,the 2023-24 academic year.

If you know where to find the kind of information you're talking about, I'd love to look it over too!


It was obviously a one-off situation, but churches got a total of $7B in PPP loans, which would have entirely gone to administrative costs. https://www.christianitytoday.com/2023/10/covid-study-ppp-loans-cares-act-churches/

For comparison (and the above & 3 below were all first run PPP loans):

Life.church in Oklahoma got a $7M PPP loan for 451 jobs. ($15.5k per job) https://projects.propublica.org/coronavirus/bailouts/loans/life-church-operations-llc-7415837000

ACLU of Texas got $830k for 57 jobs. ($14.5k per job) https://projects.propublica.org/coronavirus/bailouts/loans/aclu-foundation-of-texas-inc-4121427301

Boys & Girls Club of San Leandro, CA got $425k for 104 jobs ($4k per job) https://projects.propublica.org/cor...an-leandro-boys-and-girls-club-inc-3718657200
No mention of your embarrassing defense of the Red Cross after I posted references to their deceit and corruption?
 
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