Non conference schedule (future) update…
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That game at LOS against "Da Birds" was a blast for us, even though we lost. All day to tailgate around the stadium, neat environment inside, lots of fan energy from both sides. Hope you guys enjoy it!
The have three years to improve for Louisville because they are killing on the recruiting trail this year making IU top class look weak. I think IU will be better in three years so it should be a heck of a game.
Well balanced OOC schedules. Easy games to knock off the rust plus a challenge matchup to show where we stack up prior to B1G play. Kudos to the AD.
As long as 2021 was an aberration on an upward trajectory, those are the kind of OOC schedules IU needs the next few years. If the stumbles continue, we're really going to regret it when the ND games come around.
As long as we're still scheduling the likes of UMASS, Indiana State, Old Dominion, etc,, we will be be fine to take at least 1 P5 contender every year. 3 cupcakes don't help us get ready for B1G season.
I agree we don't need 3 cupcakes.
I think at this point in the program it should be 1 FCS, 1 MAC, 1 average P5 (I love UVA & Louisville in that role).
I think if trajectory is up, then 5 years from now it should be 1 MAC, 1 Average or low P5, and 1 marquee game.
But if the trajectory is down or even, that OOC is going to be a killer when it comes to bowl eligibility.
IU needs 3 games OOC that result in 3 wins. Why? Because 90% of the time, IU is not going to win 3 or more games on its conference slate. If you need proof, look at the conference record going back 50 years. Who cares about an OOC that prepares IU for Ohio State or Michigan? That just beats up the team even more. If you knock off some teams that are decent once and a while in conference, then you add a tougher OOC.
You are not wrong, but I don't want you to be right either. I want us to get better and be able to play a P5 program OOC every year.
I mean, we did beat PSU, Wisconsin and Michigan when we played during the COVID. So there's that. We just need to do it when there isn't the COVID to manage.
Yeah, I like that mix. MAC games are solid tuneups and adding the P5 program similar to Iu adds to that and sells seats. Would like to see the marquee game sooner that five years...when is ND on the schedule?
Three cupcakes makes zero sense, we need to prepare for the winnable games on the BIG schedule and Hostess doesn't get it done.
No, he is wrong and he says it simply as an insult. To prepare for the winnable games MD, Rutger, Pu, Ill, etc we have to play better OOC teams.
That tweet has the ND home & home starting in 2030, so definitely outside of 5 years.
starting 5 years out, it has:
2027 (bleh)
UVA
Ind. St.
UMass
2028
UVA
2029
W. Ky.
So they still have time to round out the '28 & '29 schedules to make them better.
First of all, I agree with you whole heartedly. 2 G5, and one P5 is the way to go to get ready for the B1G season.
He's being an ass, yes but I'm trying to look past that.
His statement, when taken historically, is not incorrect. We have been getting beat up in the B1G East. Getting through that gauntlet of OSU, UM, PSU, MSU is a gruesome task. When is the last time we got through a whole season with the same starting QB? Or with 75% of our early season starting lineup? We get beat up.
Even so, I agree, Hostess won't cut it.
Historically, a lot of folks looked at it that way which is naive as it simply perpetuates the mediocrity and worse. We need to prepare for teams that are beatable at this point. Any losses to MAC/lowerP5 OOC will be made up for with wins vs BIG's 6-14 teams.
Posters get upset when a fact is posted out there and if you are wanting to take IU football to the next level, you need consistent bowl seasons. Look what happened when we met adversity in the Cincy game: folded like a tent for the rest of the season. You want to put together an OOC slate that results in 1-2 records. That means 5 conference wins to become bowl eligible. That happens once in a blue moon at IU. That will get you a new coaching staff sooner, if that’s the goal here.
Everyone brings up the Big Ten East. And, it’s a gauntlet. However, we struggle against the Big Ten West as well. It makes no difference what division you reside in when you are the 13/14 team across both divisions.
It is not naive to recognize the difficulty in playing in the B1G east. It is plain reality. TA is 15-28 (0.349) in the B1G. But he is 11-4 (0.733) OOC. Playing in the B1G is not easy, so we need a balance.
Look at the schedule in 2017, 18 and 19. I think those are ideal schedules for IU moving forward. 1 FCS, 1 G5, and 1 winnable P5 (Virginia et al).
In 17 and 18 we went 3-0 in OOC and 2-7 in B1G. We missed going bowling because we didn't beat PU.
In 19, we played 1 FCS, 1 MAC, and a winnable P5 Independent in UCONN. We 3-0 OOC and 5-4 in B1G with wins over RU, MD, PU, Neb, and NW. We luckily drew 3 of three bottom 4 of the West (finishing a combined 12-24), and beat them them.
17, 18, and 19 schedules are recipes for success for IU. You can call that naive, but I view that as plain reality.
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Louisville is building the recruiting off the NIL and ranked in the top 5 last time I looked; I wish millionaires and billionaires would pony up for football and help IU bring in 5* and 4* like Louisville is doing this year.
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I think that will happen. Plenty of stroke among IU alumni
You can concede certain games as a scheduler but we will never consistently beat the teams we should by warming up on cupcakes.
Don't buy into BRCB's tripe.
I'm not sure how playing 1 FCS, 1 G5 and 1 P5 equals warming up on cupcakes... so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
Check to see how much of Hoosiers For Good and Hoosier Hysterics NIL money has been allocated to football to date, or how much has been donated with the specific request that it be directed toward football.
Go Hoosiers.
Lol…..you sure you follow IU football? Coming off a disastrous season and this board suggests it’s a good strategy to schedule tougher opponents? Genius!! We cannot beat the teams in our own conference. When IU starts acting like a P5 program, the can schedule them for the OOC slate. Until then, it’s best to leave the marquee teams to the big dogs.
For basketball, yes, there is an infatuation there for the mediocrity in that sport to pour out $$$$. Football - not a chance.
I've changed my stance on this. Lower-tiered bowls are not that great and are not guaranteed - even if we schedule cupcakes. What could be guaranteed are games at Virginia Tech, Texas, and Ole Miss. How many Indiana fans would travel to see them play at the Grove? That would be once in a lifetime.
At the end of the day, it's nice traveling somewhere warm in the winter. However, neutral site games are not as fun. If we win the B1G we will be in a NY6 Bowl and non-conference losses wouldn't hurt us.
This, to me, is why the idea of dropping to eight conference games (that allow you to play everyone, everywhere, in a four year period, while spicing up the non-conference schedule) sounds so good.
At the end of the day, it's nice traveling somewhere warm in the winter. However, neutral site games are not as fun. If we win the B1G we will be in a NY6 Bowl and non-conference losses wouldn't hurt us.
This, to me, is why the idea of dropping to eight conference games (that allow you to play everyone, everywhere, in a four year period, while spicing up the non-conference schedule) sounds so good.
Or so you hope. Your Schlick would be tougher then.
“You sure you follow IU Football”? Attaboy. Your buddy will be proud. Are you next going to claim your parking spot is next to mine? Lol
So now you acknowledge that NIL exists? It was a tough week for you early on when you argued there was no such thing.
Limited time before you come to your senses once USC and UCLA and ND join the conference. You’ll then realize what a small time operation IU is.in comparison to these additions. If IU had tough sledding before, this will bury us. It’s time to look elsewhere. A complete mismatch for a school like IU.
Context, perspective and understanding are everything. Easy to see who does and doesn’t closely follow the program and the sport.
Attaboy. Will you join your pal here in referring to TA as “The Reverend Coach Leo”??
Which is exactly why We need to up the OOC schedule as described by IU fans here.
I tried to tell you guys that we were heading toward super conferences and posters scoffed at the idea. This wasn’t the collection of teams I necessarily imagined but our idea of the Big Ten is essentially over. When the Big Ten is up to 24 teams, a collection of pods, no divisions and is re-named, you can erase any identity the conference once had. I look for more moves of existing teams out of this new conference, to be honest. Northwestern supposedly also entertained the idea of opting out, no?
No one scoffed the idea of super conference potential. What they scoff at is laughable negative posting from someone who actually is an IU fan.
Try to keep up gramps. Your days of Channel 4, Chuck Marlow and the Knothole Club are over. You are in your own world, even though the changes are right in front of you.
