No Tax On Tips!

[The Original Happy Goat]

We've asked several servers what they expect in tips a night. Several have answered between 3k -5k.

Either you're full of shit, or they are.

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

Maybe ultra high end, in HCOL locales. My brother used to make a lot working fine dining in Miami area like 20 years ago. But needed to be very knowledgeable on wine, etc.... Still very difficult

Not to mention, the nicer your dining gets, the bigger the team is that shares the pie. That $600 tip? $60 to the busser. Another $60 to the food runner. 10% of whatever the wine tab was and another 15% of the liquor tab to the wine steward and bartender, respectively. Plus, you are probably way too important to notice, but you actually don't have one server, you have two servers. They just sort of maybe kind of look similar in that outfit.

They are waiting on you and one other table, and desperately hoping at least one of you get the f*ck out of there, so that table can get sat one more time before the kitchen starts cleaning up.

Long story short, even in a fancy place, it's a grind. If you're really good at what you do, you can make some pretty good money, but there is no one in this country in a white shirt and a black apron carrying a tray who is making $3K/night. Nowhere.

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

i can remember football weekends btown in the mid 70's.

i'd have maybe 4 tables in my section ( The Gold Rush) and flip them 2-4 times depending....

anything over a $100 was a good night

( and .90 cents an hr. iirc)

Back when I did it, $100 was the rule. If you left with more than $100 after tipping out, you had a good night. Less than that, you didn't.

I'm sure the line is closer to $200 now.

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

My post wasn't meant to be argumentative.

PS, I'm not trying to be argumentative, either. Just sharing wisdom, is all.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

PS, I'm not trying to be argumentative, either. Just sharing wisdom, is all.

And all of those sharing items you listed out, can all be true at the same time and what I said. I don't know what they take home, I know what they said "they expected to get". What happens after that, I never cared.

 

[toastedbread]

Maybe ultra high end, in HCOL locales. My brother used to make a lot working fine dining in Miami area like 20 years ago. But needed to be very knowledgeable on wine, etc.... Still very difficult

4gs

There's a serious shortage of waiters right now. We know this because Trump is demanding H1Bs for waiters and "wine experts" along with the no taxes on tips. Not enough waiters for the $4k per night in tips.

 

[twenty02]

There are already very detailed regulations about what can be classified as a tip.

Lol.... There are no longer 'regulations'... Trump is sending the entire IRS to the border, haven't you heard?

 

[Marvin the Martian]

Some on tips, like a blackjack dealer in Vegas, may well be making more than many of the people tipping them. I am not sure why it is fair to make it tax free for the dealer.

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

Lol.... There are no longer 'regulations'... Trump is sending the entire IRS to the border, haven't you heard?

Fair. I predict within 12 months, the White House will be rewriting regulation wholesale and arguing in briefs that the APA is unconstitutional.

 

[WhyisIUBBcursed]

Back when I did it, $100 was the rule. If you left with more than $100 after tipping out, you had a good night. Less than that, you didn't.

I'm sure the line is closer to $200 now.

Hell, I was thrilled with $50 working at Kilroy’s in the early 90’s. Nobody told me that drunk college kids don’t tip for shit

 

[GeorgeStrait IU]

It’s no mystery why UPS has demonstrated itself to be by far the best in shipping. Hiring. They have discernment

Also because Ulrey works there.

 

[IUJIM]

Manhattan, Miami, Bawston, Mineapolis, Indy, DFW.......... I could go on. I've spent the last 13 years in and out of those places. 5 people, $1,000 dinner. It's real.

They are not running 20-30 tables a night, especially at $200-$400/table. A waiter at St Elmo's may have a couple of tables a night that have $200-$400 Tips

 

[ribbont]

Ok if you all say so. They may not get 20-30 tables a night, nor do they work 7 days a week I am sure. But I've given, and every one of my 10-12 sales associates, have given A LOT of 2-3-400 tips. Some times, several times a week. As well as our competitors, venders and clients.
But what do I know.

Having a friend who does this work, I think what you are missing is the fact the tip is shared with the bartender, the bussers, runners, back waiters, etc.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Having a friend who does this work, I think what you are missing is the fact the tip is shared with the bartender, the bussers, runners, back waiters, etc.

See above, this has been covered. This and what I said can be true at the same time.

 

[ribbont]

See above, this has been covered. This and what I said can be true at the same time.

Sorry, must have missed it.

 

[TR32]

Trump just made that promise again to the service workers in Las Vegas!
Finally a President that can’t be bought!

They should tax tips. It's income.

Littoral class destroyers don't pay for themselves.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Littoral class destroyers don't pay for themselves.

It's generally the cLittoral class that I have to watch out for.