Next year will be tough to get through--no Morgan or Romeo.
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Not sure your prediction about no Romeo or Morgan will prove out. You seem to be making a couple of assumptions.
Two 5* freshman won't give any help?
We all have concerns about next year, but don't think it'll be nearly as dire as many are making it out to be.
There are very few freshmen who could come close to replacing what Morgan does for IU. And he is already undersized. Going with a 6'8.5" freshman is not an upgrade.
Add to the fact that Romeo is indeed a special talent not likely to be bested next year either.
I think we will be deep an athletic but still no three point shooters. I never saw Hunter play but people say he is better then Smith right now?
We will have guys transfer which will be an opportunity to land some Grad Transfer guards that can shoot. Should have got Ryan Taylor.
Because we don't want to think about the meltdown here if he goes to Michigan State instead of IU.
Morgan has been special, but I also think he's part of the chemistry problem. As a senior, I expected more of him as an onfloor leader. As good as he is, he's part of the emotionless funk this team has, imo.
I've watched Happ & Wisconsin play a bunch of times this year. Basically, I think its the same situation....one star, and a bunch of stiffs. Although Morgan also has Romeo, his supporting cast is probably even worse than that of Happs.
Anyway, Happ plays the same way every game....hard and smart. The fortunes of the team rise and fall with the performance of the stiffs.
The point is that, in the end, the fortunes of the team fluctuate depending on the performance of the stiffs. As an individual player, all you can do is play your ass off all the time. You can't be expected to also coach the team and take out the garbage.
I hope that Jerome has a "full" recovery and he gets back to where he was before the injury took him off the court.
I'm not excited having watched quite a few performances by each of the incoming guys.
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Not sure how we can know what next season will look like with so many questions still out there. Do they add Brooks and maybe another guard? Will anyone decide to transfer? Do Hunter and Davis come back healthy? How do the returning players develop?
At this point, Archie has to realize they need more size and more shooters. Adding TJD and hopefully Brooks is great but they need more size to turn to off the bench who can play now and not two seasons from now. Is that Moore, Forrester or Race? If not, better start looking. Will Rob, AD, DG, DA, Hunter or Franklin be reliable shooters from 3? If not, better start looking.
Maybe next years team looks more like the teams Archie had success with previously. No way of knowing right now.
At this point, Archie has to realize they need more size and more shooters. Adding TJD and hopefully Brooks is great but they need more size to turn to off the bench who can play now and not two seasons from now. Is that Moore, Forrester or Race? If not, better start looking. Will Rob, AD, DG, DA, Hunter or Franklin be reliable shooters from 3? If not, better start looking.
Maybe next years team looks more like the teams Archie had success with previously. No way of knowing right now.
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Good point and I remember Archie saying pre-season that Juwan, as a senior, needs to be more of a vocal leader for the team. I haven't seen it, but I have seen him posturing the "bicept bulge" while setting up for defense after scoring two points in a decisive manner. Some people have natural leadership qualities while others only which they do. Actions speak with volume turned up.
Freshmen don't have to replace Morgan. Someone currently on the roster can take some of his production. Two 5 star recruits can take a chunk of that and replace people that will come of the bench. Phinisee, Durham, Franklin and Green along with Hunter (at the 2?). I personally like a lineup with RP, Hunter, Brooks, TJD, and Thompson/Smith/Davis.
We have yet to see what Thompson can do and Moore is looking closer to getting on the court. This year isn't done. It would be great if the team was so disgusted with their play that they put forth a good run starting Saturday.
I don't think anyone is predicting that either will be a OAD. Doesn't mean it couldn't happen, but the odds are in favor of them staying multiple years.
That is why alot of us were being optimistic about this year and making the NCAA. Man if we miss it this year that would be three in a row and next your would be four.
Is this current team playing with any chemistry or toughness? If IU lands Brooks then they’ll have two 5* freshmen and a returning experienced PG. if Archie can get them to play together and play tough, then they can’t help but be better. Having two 1st team all-B1G players means nothing if you don’t play as a team.
They also returned three very legit starters and top fourty ranked recruits in Ward, Langford, and Winston. That will not be the case for IU. If Archie misses the NCAA this year and next his seat will be very hot imo.
At some point Archie needs to recruit some shooters, no?
I mean, he can't keep talking about the lack of shooting and not bring any in.
No doubt. That was a valid excuse last season and probably this season but it won't be next season. If he didn't have enough shooters he'll of had more than enough time to go get some.
He was having a great year the last time I checked. He is likely not going to start next year but a player that can become a regular contributor over 4 years. An Indiana kid with a good upside.
Even more reason to have offered Leal at this point. We have got to get some pure shooters and some size or we'll continue to get eaten alive in conference.
It will be his third year so yes. Now crean was still on a honeymoon but I hope we are not still applying that same thinking.
nope. if we get brooks and get healthy, we'll be tough as nails. even if we don't get brooks we'll be fine.
That comment reminded me of an IU player who never did fully recover. I think it was during the Crean era, out of state kid, shooting guard, I believe, highly ranked, played well early on and then....injury of some sort. I'm drawing a blank. Anyone remember who this player was? Let's hope Hunter isn't one of him, whomever him may be.
Wishful thinking on your part. Talent coming in, development of Rob plus the injured will dress. It won't get worse. Sorry.
Thank you. The poor kid had legs like toothpicks, what little there is to recall.
I hate to say it, but we don't know what worse is, yet.
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