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It all depends on whether ND has a better path to the National Championship as an independent or as a B1G conference member.
Most ND fans would rather eat dirt than join the B10.
Let them eat dirt... 😉
I'd rather they eat dirt, too.
I don't think you're getting it. The B1G and SEC are going to have a playoff of just their conference teams. The rest of the conferences will amount to FCS. Notre Dame either joins the B1G or SEC conference or be left out of everything. I think the delay is due to mapping out details. Schedule preferences, ACC buyout clause, remaining Financials. In 2 years, they're going, B1G or SEC.
If so, they'll not be included in the CFP in a few years. If ND wants to truly go into irrelevance, they'd stay independent. It worked for them in the past but they no longer really have a choice
They already know consolidation is coming. They can decline and become an FCS team, or stay with the big boys by joining the SEC or B1G. Doesn't seem like much of a choice to me.
Haha The Supreme Court will tell colleges who they must play in college sports? Now that's comical. The B1G and SEC will be seceding from the NCAA and ND has absolutely no say in what those conferences do. I think you're struggling to understand what's happening here.
Cal has been conspicuously silent through all of this.
Apparently nobody at all in television land gives a rip about Cal, and from reading PAC boards, Cal doesn’t either.
Lots of valid points but, there is something thats likely toncontinue to drive this insane facilitie$ war and it’s EGO. Players want the shiniest and biggest and schools and especially alumni want the bragging rights. We have seen the enemy and it is us.
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Maybe they'd lose some of that g-damned arrogance if their football team was just one of many in a conference.
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Estimates are that ND will have to put down $150-175M to get out of the ACC, because of the GOR on the minor sports + the contract clause saying they can't take their football to another conference.
7/10 are pretty obvious:Article/report referenced in this comes from the WSJ.Ten Schools Have Informally Reached Out to Big Ten: Report
When USC and UCLA made the move to leave the Pac-12 for the Big Ten last week, it made waves across the landscape of college athletics that will continue to ripple through the industry for weeks, months, and even years. While those two schools have a stable future in one of the premier...
they may not but I suspect B1G presidents/chancellors do--they'd love to get Stanford and Cal into the B1G 10, regardless of the current state of Cal's athletics
Well, the geography tells us ND should be Big Ten (Big 20?). I am sure this will carry more weight than money.ND is a total question mark, I have no idea how much money they are willing to eat to remain independent, but with the payout they would receive in the new B1G, it's going do be somewhere in the neighborhood of $70-80 million dollars...Annually. No normal university would pass up on that money, but they are already eating at least 30 million dollars a year rn by being independent/ACC, so clearly for better or worse they do not act like a normal University. Some ND fans want to continue to cry about Michigan trying to kill ND's FB program over 100 years ago, and say because of that, ND will NEVER join the B1G. Well if the last 13 months have shown us one thing, it's that CFB programs are more than happy to take a wrecking ball to history if it means a bigger payday. If I were a betting man, I'd say odds are as high now as they've ever been for ND to join the B1G, but until I see anything official, I wouldn't hold my breath on the matter.
What I will say is that ND would be IDIOTIC to join any conference other than the B1G. If we are working with the premise that they have to join one conference, even though they're associated with the ACC their current schedule only has 3 teams that are on it every year and none are in the ACC; The three teams are USC, Stanford and Navy. They certainly aren't joining Navy in the AAC and they're not joining the new Pac-12, that just leaves the B1G. They would be able to retain the USC rivalry as one of their required conference games. If they really wanted to keep Stanford and Navy on the schedule, they could do that and give themselves one more flex game. They wouldn't get that flexibility in either the ACC or SEC because USC would be an OOC game(working with the premise that both conferences will be at 9 required conference games by the time ND actually joins).
Oregon is simple, does the B1G want them, they clearly want out of the Pac-12, and have been a good enough program in FB over the last two decades to join, but w/o Phil Knight, the TV market Oregon brings in wouldn't even make it past the doors of the B1G office. I linked an article below that said according to a former Executive at Fox Sports, Oregon and Washington do not add enough value to make up the 141 million they'd be owed as full members of the B1G(the estimate cited in the article was $60 million), so the B1G may have to work something out where they don't get a full payout initially, or just turn them down altogether.
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FWIW, the distances from Nebraska to USC/UCLA and from Boston College to Miami are nearly identical.
