NCAA: All Div. I transfers get waiver, can play
The waiver covers all Division I sports, and the most immediate impact will be felt in men's college basketball, in which a number of notable players will be able to suit up immediately.
NCAA Grants Blanket Waiver - All Transfers Can Play Immediately
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Like I have said for months, I will be shocked if we don't get a transfer big for next year.
It's going to be the wild wild west on transfers..
But hopefully we score Big !!!
But hopefully we score Big !!!
Huge mistake.NCAA: All Div. I transfers get waiver, can play
The waiver covers all Division I sports, and the most immediate impact will be felt in men's college basketball, in which a number of notable players will be able to suit up immediately.www.espn.com
NCAA: All Div. I transfers get waiver, can play
The waiver covers all Division I sports, and the most immediate impact will be felt in men's college basketball, in which a number of notable players will be able to suit up immediately.
So, how long is it until you hear rumblings of programs being in contact with current players?
Why on earth would you CAM is going to “clean up”. What has he ever done to make you type that emphatic statement?
It will turn into nba free agency. No regulation of it. Bigger programs will poach best players off the smaller schools.
Just play it out. Some schools were/are already into 'the best players that money can buy' territory, now they can formalize it. "Come here and we'll arrange and maximize/sweeten your endorsement deals", "Transfer here and we'll triple your revenue", etc., etc., ad nauseam. Layers and layers of intrigue and bullshit, HS kids turned into millionaires before ever playing a D1 game, and the relatively non-corporate nature and simplicity of the Game turned into a money-grubbing circus and soap opera. Great idea all around. One can say it's already happened, but what is remains a far cry from what will be if the legislation (as currently written) ever becomes law.
Nothing wrong with 'amateur' status - no inherent abridgement of individual rights because Players aren't currently allowed to commercialize themselves while a member of an NCAA team as they are and have always been free to pursue commercial glory/economic enrichment over participation in college athletics. Not like many of the those who stand to benefit most from the proposed changes have much if any interest in earning a college degree anyway, and in this day and age one hardly needs to physically be on a Campus to do so. Any and every athlete already has the right to enter into any commercial agreement they wish - that they may not do so AND represent an NCAA University at the same time is in no way an abridgement of their individual and/or constitutional rights.
As re: "revenue sharing", it already exists in the NCAA, as attested to by the presence of world-class training and residence facilities as well as the very existence of a large percentage of student-athletes. What happens to those students and their Programs if 50% of current revenue stream gets siphoned off for marquee BB/FB Players? Nothing good. Just no way that creating and fostering even greater formal and economic disparity among Players and Universities will benefit collegiate athletics.
Are other ways to address 'revenue sharing' besides accelerating the timetable for gifted athletes to become millionaires. According every D1 student-athlete (and perhaps student managers) a modest and equal stipend might be one approach, though it may then be inevitable that university departments and graduate programs all across the country will be met with lawsuits by those demanding profit sharing and a cut of grant money or gate proceeds received by their institutions for research, school plays, concerts, etc. And if Universities are compelled to further compensate athletes through revenue-sharing and/or those athletes are additionally free to pursue financial enrichment in relation to participation in institutional sports, how can high schools and their students be treated any differently?
This whole thing is a Pandora's box, but it does not follow that the solution is to throw it open and essentially deregulate everything. The 'box' was cracked open long ago by the shoe companies when they went from signing deals with Universities to actively working to safeguard/enrich their investments by incentivizing attendance by gifted Players at those institution wherein they had deals. I have little doubt that most if not nearly all of the current clamor about 'individual or 'player' rights is being catalyzed and financed by the same sneaker and apparel companies, and that their political lobbying campaign in DC on this issue has already been collectively budgeted in excess of $100 million for 2021 alone.
This issue will doubtless be debated at length and my own ill-informed idealistic notions on the subject drawn and quartered. Bring it. Right now am largely operating on "if it's not broke don't fix it" and "first do no harm" basis and just do not see how this is either necessary or positive for the 'greater good'. Higher learning in the USA is an interesting blend of private/socialist/for-profit and non-profit themes - would maintain that its associated athletic programs represent the global gold standard, and see little or nothing that will advance or enhance that distinction in allowing corporate interests and personal gain a greater, and in some ways dictatorial role in its expression.
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No, not at all.I am just trying to think through all of the possibilities.
I would be horrified if we had an MSU scandal
So again I need help. Why is this even being considered? This seems an obvious horrible idea.
Not your tutor nor an authority, don't be so lazy and go read some thing(s) by those who are.
Is this a good or bad thing for IU. They don’t seem to use the transfer market as much as some other schools have used it to fill holes in their rosters. Hell, at one time poster said that it is very difficult for transfers to get accepted at IU. I am not sure if this is true or not. Knowing the IU admin, it would not surprise me one bit.
The problem with the rule is that it allows kids an easy way to greener pastures. Water flows downhill. Too easy.
Players returning and using the extra year do not count against the scholarship limit.
Pure free agency. Any proof of tampering should be dealt with extremely harsh penalties. This is going to be a shit show.NCAA: All Div. I transfers get waiver, can play
The waiver covers all Division I sports, and the most immediate impact will be felt in men's college basketball, in which a number of notable players will be able to suit up immediately.
It's a new world for better or for worse but...it does open an ocean of players that will be available.
Players that have proven themselves in college vs speculating on a HS kid that looked great against Bloomington South.
We will definitely lose some kids to this but I'm expecting Archie to take advantage of it....like he did with Stewart.
College is about to become AAU as far as guys switching teams. We'll see if that's bad or good in five some years but that's the new reality.
Players that have proven themselves in college vs speculating on a HS kid that looked great against Bloomington South.
We will definitely lose some kids to this but I'm expecting Archie to take advantage of it....like he did with Stewart.
College is about to become AAU as far as guys switching teams. We'll see if that's bad or good in five some years but that's the new reality.
I agree with you that tampering in the new world should be punished harshly, but for that to be done you have to have faith in the NCAA - and I really don't. Their rulings are so egregiously inconsistent: I mean it took FBI wiretaps to get scumbag programs like Louisville and LSU. Calipari continues to coach even after the "penalties" that have been levied against him. There are serious, SERIOUS questions about benefits that Zion Williamson's parents received from Duke. UNC players are taking sham classes...and, yet...again, IU basically got the equivalent of the death penalty for Kelvin Sampson's phone calls. Phone calls. Not bags of cash. Not World Wide Wes. Not stripper parties for recruits. Not institutional academic fraud. Not cars and apartments and houses for the family. Phone calls.
I simply have no confidence that the NCAA is up to the task of enforcing rules. It seems to me that they're throwing up their hands and saying, "go for it" to players, coaches and schools. And given their history of ineptitude, I'm not sure it's any worse or better than what we have now.
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Archie will do well with this rule. He is young, and 18-22 years olds call him Arch. He connects with players, and here comes the big one. Close your ears folks who think IU is the Harvard of the big ten. He is willing to push the envelope and god forbid break an awful rule made by the NCAA.
we cheated to get romeo, we cheated to get Lander. Do I know this for a fact? Nope. Have some damn good educated guesses tho. Romeo for sure.
I’ll tell you this, I will sponsor a IU player for shits and giggles. Maybe I’ll get Cavanagh for President on a bench players shoe. Have him say “Cavanagh is always right on his opinions” at the presser.
another reason IU will benefit that has nothing to do with Archie. A lot of people with way more money than me will be willing to throw it at players. IU will offer more monetarily in name and likeness than almost any school
In the country.
we cheated to get romeo, we cheated to get Lander. Do I know this for a fact? Nope. Have some damn good educated guesses tho. Romeo for sure.
I’ll tell you this, I will sponsor a IU player for shits and giggles. Maybe I’ll get Cavanagh for President on a bench players shoe. Have him say “Cavanagh is always right on his opinions” at the presser.
another reason IU will benefit that has nothing to do with Archie. A lot of people with way more money than me will be willing to throw it at players. IU will offer more monetarily in name and likeness than almost any school
In the country.
zion got exposed, Romeo didn’t because he sucks. I promise you the same
Shit was happening for him tho. You think romeos family was more ethical than Zion’s? Did you see the preacher at romeos decision? Church needs some money Rome!!!
What are the mechanics of this? Can a player transfer just in time for the NCAA tournament? Can he transfer to Gonzaga today, and Duke next week?
Personally, I would go the exact opposite route. Make every new player (including all freshmen) ineligible for a year. We shouldn’t incentivize people to come into a program for a year. I know the NCAA is never going back to making kids sit out their freshman year, but it would eliminate the one and done problem.
Personally, I would go the exact opposite route. Make every new player (including all freshmen) ineligible for a year. We shouldn’t incentivize people to come into a program for a year. I know the NCAA is never going back to making kids sit out their freshman year, but it would eliminate the one and done problem.
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can transfer and play next semester. Not sure about in season transfers if they were playing, if that would still apply. Probably not.
they need to make a min 2 years in college before you can enter the nba. If you don’t wanna do that, go straight to the Gleague/draft.
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