no, the judges ordered him returned after being wrongfully deported.
National Guard to LA
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Of what practical consequence is that, though?
I mean, I certainly get saying "I just don't trust Trump to be doing the enforcing. He's vindictive, reckless, and cruel." OK...that's one of the main reasons we have elections. But we only have one president at a time. And what any of his think of whoever that is or what he's doing, the powers and responsibilities are the same as they are for any other POTUS.
So, assuming that DT doesn't resign, isn't removed from office, or else croaks in the next 3.5 years, then he's going to be POTUS for that period of time. That certainly doesn't mean he has license to do whatever the hell he wants. We still have checks and balances, of course.
But, that being said, he'll have the powers, privileges, and duties that come with his office.
You're wrong about this.
He was ordered deported -- to anywhere but El Salvador. And guess where the administration sent him?
Trump lost 9-0 at SCOTUS over this. And it was an easy call for them....which, I'm sure, is why the administration buckled and had him brought back (albeit under the face-saving excuse that it was to have him face new criminal charges).
Great comparison - jaywalking vs criminal illegal aliens
You've done it again, Magoo!
Checks and balances are hanging on by a string given there isn't a single spine in Congress...at least among conservatives. They are fully a "do whatever trump says" mindset. Maybe more balance will come during the midterms.
Conservatives also illegally stacked the court. In a working system, people so hyper-partisan as Alito and Thomas would never have passed the nomination process in the first place. At least the rest (even the ones that are in stolen seats) have shown some backbone and ability to think for themselves. But then again they haven't received as many bribes as Thomas.
It seems odd to say, but someone needs to fill the void Trump will eventually leave for his MAGA cult. They’re pretty open about wanting a daddy figure in the White House .
It'd be nice if that person is more or less respected the majority. It's a hard needle to thread...maybe 'hero' isn't the right word, but it's definitely aspirational to hope the country finds that unicorn of a president.
and your point?😂😂😂
Takes bribes and doesn't report them.
Thinks the guy buying him vacations, RVs and other expensive gifts is just a family friend.
The people of Los Angeles deserve to go about their day with law and order prevailing in their streets.
In my perfect world, the mayor of LA, the governor of California, and the president of the U.S. would be working together to maintain law and order.
Appears to me, instead of working together, the local leaders and our national leader are walking separate paths. Each appealing to different political constituencies.
Why can't the elected officials put politics aside and work together for the common good of the ordinary citizens of Los Angeles.
I’m fine with that, to the extent we’re able to ascertain when and how somebody entered.
But, still, job #1 needs to remain figuring out the best ways to effectively and sustainably secure the border.
Not one of the 3 seems the least bit interested in working collaboratively with both of the other two on this.
At least they each seemed to do better on this with the Palisades fire.
Makes no difference. Public safety is foremost what a gov must provide. If local won’t do it or can’t do it as the police chief related send in the feds. We lose planes worth ten times that
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I posted why in the nullification thread. Differences are no longer resolved by elections, differences are magnified by mobs, violence, and even carrying different flags. Reasonableness is absent.
For those who don't trust Trump and his administration, I think the biggest worry is the answer to this question: "What does he try next after this doesn't work?" Because that's all this is going to be, is a series of asking that question over and over again. Trump promised to dramatically increase deportations. You might recall that I predicted before the election he'd find it impossible to fulfill that promise, for various reasons. And that's what's happening. ICE was doing their job, but deportations were no higher than they were under Biden, so Miller gets everyone in a room, yells at them, and tells them to ramp it up. So they ramp it up, and still find themselves unable to deport people at a noticeably greater rate. So what's next? Find reasons to yank status away from legal aliens, since they are a lot easier to find than illegal ones. So now we're doing that, and it's not going to increase deportations, either.
What Trump and his supporters fail to grasp is that the immigration system is already operating at 110% capacity. You can't squeeze any more productivity out of it. So, again, the question becomes, once Trump sees he's still not getting the 3000 deportees/day he wants, what does he try next? And when that inevitably fails, then what? Do we eventually get to the point where we start shoving everyone we even suspect might be an immigrant over the border, without taking the time to even verify who they are? Does everyone have to worry about being the next Cheech Marin from Born in East L.A.? I hope that sounds like the absurd end of a slippery slope, but we've got an administration that is demanding a result that is physically impossible to produce, and it shouldn't be a surprise that people who are already very wary of Trump and his advisors to imagine how easily it would be for him to go too far in pursuit of that unreachable goal.
Costs more than I guessed:
How do you know these are legal aliens being deported.
Money well spent. Should be the first dollars spent. Public safety
I'm talking about how they are finding excuses to yank student visas and the like. You'll be seeing a lot more of that in the near future.
There isn’t a single Justice on the SCOTUS that was put there illegally.
Yes there was. Stolen from Obama
Senates job was to confirm. Not delay until Trump could nominate someone
It was a violation of longstanding convention. That doesn't make it illegal. And it certainly doesn't make it illegal for Trump to later fill that vacancy.
How in the world do you figure that?
The Senate isn’t under any legal time constraint to act on nominations. Some nominations sit without action for years.
What they did was a deviation from norms. It was not, however, a violation of the law.
Still a stolen seat proven 4 years later when they rushed through a nomination during an election. The excuse used to not nominate someone under Obama
Everyone knew it was bs
Now Trump threatening protesters to be met with force if they demonstrate against his military birthday parade.
To his supporters, do you agree with arresting peaceful protest?
To his supporters, do you agree with arresting peaceful protest?
Patience. We have at least 11 years, 7 months, and 10 days to finish the job.
“This is not what we voted for. I have always supported Trump, through thick and thin. However this is unacceptable and inhumane.
“I understand the importance of deporting criminal aliens, but what we are witnessing are arbitrary measures to hunt down people who are complying with their immigration hearings - in many cases, with credible fear of persecution claims - all driven by a Miller- like desire to satisfy a self-fabricated deportation goal. This undermines the sense of fairness and justice the American people value.” — State Senator Ileana Garcia (R-Miami)
Latinas for Trump co-founder blasts ‘inhumane’ immigrant arrests
Florida state Sen. Ileana Garcia (R), co-founder of Latinas for Trump, issued a sharp rebuke of President Trump on Sunday as his administration seeks to ramp up deportations and other actions again…
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He looks like a cholo. Khaki pants. White T’s. That’s probably the group I’d get in with I think in prison
Thanks, Obama!
Such an immensely better, more effective, and more popular President than this one.
Words mean something. That can be honestly criticized, and I’m on the record saying Garland should have gotten a vote, but calling it illegal is dishonest. It was unusual but not illegal. There isn’t a single Justice on the SCOTUS that is there illegally. This is a fact, not an opinion.
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