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National Guard to LA

This is such a bad idea, but what else do you expect from incompetence? The military is not trained to handle domestic affairs like this. It took Trump less than 5 months to potentially have a serious incident with American citizens dead in the streets. What a country he’s creating.
Calm down little man. A temporary support role. Unfortunately.

 
Those are the inflatable ones they use as decoys. Don't tell Kim Jung Donald.
Donny's birthday party...
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let's not forget

#lockherup
IOC needs to yank the 2028 Olympics out of L.A. pending local and state government demonstrating they can manage rudimentary city government,
 
And as always the best way to turn a protest into a riot is police action.
That’s really stupid. The police are targets. They are not the proximate cause of any violence. Fire bombing Waymos, police cars, or throwing stuff at cops is not caused by Waymo or cops. Period!

The stupid democrats can’t just disagree with Trump and try to get votes (you know, democracy) , they gotta set in motion street mobs and then support them with their presence and. Confrontations with authorities, which invariably get out of hand, all because the voters don’t let them have their way.
 
Only fascist asshats defend what Trump is doing

I'm no fan of sending active duty military in there. I think that has the potential to make things much worse -- and unnecessarily so. I don't think the current situation calls for it...not at this point, anyway.

But I have no issue at all with his use of the CA NG. Given the situation, what's the realistic alternative? I don't think the state and local police have the resources in place to deal with this themselves. And maybe not even the will.

If this position makes me a "fascist asshat" to you, so be it.
 
I'm no fan of sending active duty military in there. I think that has the potential to make things much worse -- and unnecessarily so. I don't think the current situation calls for it...not at this point, anyway.

But I have no issue at all with his use of the CA NG. Given the situation, what's the realistic alternative? I don't think the state and local police have the resources in place to deal with this themselves. And maybe not even the will.

If this position makes me a "fascist asshat" to you, so be it.
Trump way overstepped his bounds with immigration and now is overstepping with bringing in the military

No one should be supporting this shit
 
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Using military against US citizens. I am sure you fascists are proud

He is going well beyond immigration law
Several presidents so used the military. So what?

US citizens? You don’t know that.

There is nothing beyond the law here. The military is staying in their lane.

You should quit. You are showing more ignorance with every post.
 
Trump way overstepped his bounds with immigration and now is overstepping with bringing in the military

No one should be supporting this shit

I don't agree at all that he overstepped his bounds on immigration. Not only did he explicitly run on doing precisely this, it's a faithful execution of the immigration laws.

I realize that people have become very accustomed to lax enforcement of those laws. But they do exist - and many people are here in violation of them.
 
Nope, you are not doing it right, because you are one of those hypocritical assholes.

Can we arrest everyone and charge/threaten them with 1512, and 20 years of prison?

BTW - I wanted Trump to do more. I wish Pelosi had done more. I agree J6 protesters should have been arrested and charged, but not with 1512. I disagreed with pardoning any protesters UNLESS they were charged or threatened with 1512.

18 U.S.C. § 1512 – U.S. Code

Whoever corruptly—

alters, destroys, mutilates, or conceals a record, document, or other object, or attempts to do so, with the intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding;  or

otherwise obstructs, influences, or impedes any official proceeding, or attempts to do so…

shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
 
Several presidents so used the military. So what?

US citizens? You don’t know that.

There is nothing beyond the law here. The military is staying in their lane.

You should quit. You are showing more ignorance with every post.
You are showing how much you have shoved your head up Trump's rear
 
I don't agree at all that he overstepped his bounds on immigration. Not only did he explicitly run on doing precisely this, it's a faithful execution of the immigration laws.

I realize that people have become very accustomed to lax enforcement of those laws. But they do exist - and many people are here in violation of them.
Hardly a faithful execution of any law actually in the books. Trump has even commented about deporting US citizens, which I am sure some on here would support because they support anything Trump does
 
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I certainly agree that the NG troops -- and everybody else in a uniform on the ground there -- are in a really difficult situation.

But I'm not entirely with you on the other things. For one thing, in a situation like this, how exactly is anybody supposed to delineate between peaceful protesters and rioters? That seems virtually impossible to do in these circumstances -- unless the peaceful people and the unruly people make a concerted effort to stay apart from each other. And they almost never do that.

And none of this would've happened had it not been for people deliberately trying to impede and obstruct the operations. I hate to go with the whole "They started it!" defense...but it's true. That's what started all of this -- and it escalated not when the NG was called in, but when people started attacking the federal officers with rocks and such.

Given that, it would be incredibly irresponsible not to increase the engagement in order to keep those people safe and quell the unrest. If you want to call that "escalation", I guess that's fine. But it certainly wasn't unwarranted, given what was happening.
You must be responding to someone else because I didn't use the word "escalation" in my post. That's because that isn't the word I wanted to use. I don't think there is any question that the manner in which our elected officials messaged this "inflamed" the situation. That's the word I used.

We can go back decades with "They started it" defenses, which is one reason why they are so useless. Protesters could just as easily say that "none of this would've happened if the administration hadn't decided to conduct military style raids in immigration enforcement." None of the "They started it" stuff is helpful if what you want is a peaceful disagreement on policy.

I agree that it's a difficult thing to do separating protesters from rioters. One of the first things police experienced in this sort of thing will tell you is "what you project is what you get". That's why we need cooler heads and serious leaders. I have no doubt that there is leadership on both sides of this who want this to be inflamed. And I have no doubt that there are serious people on both sides who would like it to be peaceful.
 
Hardly a faithful execution of any law actually in the books. Trump has even commented about deporting US citizens, which I am sure some on here would support because they support anything Trump does

Well, suffice it to say, it would be unlawful to deport US citizens.

But what do you mean that deporting illegal immigrants (who have been found to be deportable) isn't faithful to federal immigration law? Most of those who entered the country between Ports of Entry, or have overstayed visas, are absolutely subject to deportation.

There is one class that I think should be fast-tracked for asylee status -- with proper vetting, etc. -- and that's Afghanis who were of bona fide assistance to the US Military in OEF. If those people are sent back to Afghanistan, we'd almost certainly be condemning them and their families to a violent death at the hands of the Taliban.
 
Hardly a faithful execution of any law actually in the books. Trump has even commented about deporting US citizens, which I am sure some on here would support because they support anything Trump does
The riot started because “peaceful protestors“ blocked federal immigration authorities from performing their jobs. This was supported democrat members of Congress who openly taunted and even assaulted federal officers in two states. The Trump administration did nothing wrong. And you think Trump is a fascist?

So much for democracy
 
My father-in-law hadn’t been back from Vietnam very long when his unit from the 101st Airborne was deployed to Detroit in the summer of 1967 for riots.

I remember him explaining to me the critical difference between uniformed military and law enforcement in such a situation. I think about 50 people altogether were killed during those riots.

Clearly, this must be kept as an absolute final option. This is not sending in people trained to calm, it’s sending people in trained to kill.
It’s not the final option. It’s not a viable option at all. We tried to do it against a foreign populace and failed miserably. It’ll only be worse against a better-armed populace here.
 
Blocking highways. Setting cars on fire. Every day people having their lives fckd with by your party. Yet again. Your party could use assimilation training. How to behave like humans. Want to protest do it peacefully. Stay on the sidewalk. go to dc. Go to the capitol. Don’t fck with the lives of ordinary people
@outside shooter is the dumbest smart guy on the ****ing planet.
 
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