My next choice.

[fkfootball]

If a change is made, whether it's this year or next year.


I would target someone like Buzz Williams. He has shown he can win in major conferences. Good Offensive coach that plays up and down. Charismatic but not too Charismatic. Good recruiter. They should have hired someone like this to begin with.

 

[fpeaugh]

I’ll pass on Buzz. The Crean connection alone is enough to deter me.

We need a big time hire. Someone who’s a splash. No more cheap, easy hires.

 

[dbmhoosier]

Who then fpeaugh? Stevens isn't coming. Donovan isn't either. We offered him everything he wanted before hiring Archie and it still wasn't enough. Who is the slam dunk hire that we can land? Buzz honestly would be a solid choice.

 

[gulcherboy]

I think it's time for Indiana to go back to the policy of hiring former players as head coaches. Yes! It's time to bring in Ivan Renko!

 

[hoosier48]

If a change is made, whether it's this year or next year.


I would target someone like Buzz Williams. He has shown he can win in major conferences. Good Offensive coach that plays up and down. Charismatic but not too Charismatic. Good recruiter. They should have hired someone like this to begin with.

Oh my, this is a terrible stretch of basketball, but Do you think he has had enough time to adjust and fill positions with his type players? Little harsh, but I see your point when other teams hardly miss a beat.....see Louisville and Mack. No way we could beat them again.

 

[victorbear]

Nobody would win with these players!!!! Bobby Huggins even having a bad year as is Mike Brey did they just forget how to coach!!

 

[Egg Shen]

Oh my, this is a terrible stretch of basketball, but Do you think he has had enough time to adjust and fill positions with his type players? Little harsh, but I see your point when other teams hardly miss a beat.....see Louisville and Mack. No way we could beat them again.

We would still be Louisville they are so overrated like Purdue.

 

[Bustout]

I posted this below - It’s hard as a fan, but it takes time. Look at Wright, Barnes, Pearl, Archie at Dayton, Bennett, Beilen .... the first few years are a struggle for most coaches.

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

Who then fpeaugh? Stevens isn't coming. Donovan isn't either. We offered him everything he wanted before hiring Archie and it still wasn't enough. Who is the slam dunk hire that we can land? Buzz honestly would be a solid choice.

I will tell you what the first step is:

1. Hire Kevin White, Jim Phillips, Dan Radakovich, Joe Castiglione or Scott Strickland

Next step:

Get the hell out of their way and let them do their work. They would have things turned around in a short order. We certainly wouldn’t be some kind of “namby pamby” cream puff university we’ve become, with coaches in over their heads!

 

[Tammany Hall]

We sucked before Archie, and if Archie can't do it, it's more evidence the problems extend beyond the coach.

If Arch sucks next year, he and Glass need to go. But until then, we need to hope.

 

[jacksback]

Who then fpeaugh? Stevens isn't coming. Donovan isn't either. We offered him everything he wanted before hiring Archie and it still wasn't enough. Who is the slam dunk hire that we can land? Buzz honestly would be a solid choice.

I will tell you what the first step is:

1. Hire Kevin White, Jim Phillips, Dan Radakovich, Joe Castiglione or Scott Strickland

Next step:

Get the hell out of their way and let them do their work. They would have things turned around in a short order. We certainly wouldn’t be some kind of “namby pamby” cream puff university we’ve become, with coaches in over their heads!

Wait a second BRMC, you were saying a few years back to hire Archie! My how you jump off the bandwagon when things get a little bumpy. Lol

 

[homeytheclown]

What about wojo.

 

[kkott]

I will tell you what the first step is:

1. Hire Kevin White, Jim Phillips, Dan Radakovich, Joe Castiglione or Scott Strickland

Next step:

Get the hell out of their way and let them do their work. They would have things turned around in a short order. We certainly wouldn’t be some kind of “namby pamby” cream puff university we’ve become, with coaches in over their heads!

... and 2 years ago, you'd have had Archie on that list, wouldn't you? Be honest!

I'll admit, my confidence is shaken, but he deserves at least another year.

 

[ufo33]

A totally inept Crean leftover roster. Only one class of Archie recruits, and two of them are still out with injuries. No perimeter shooters, no healthy low post bangers. Crean did not balance the roster. Only one contributing upper clsssman - Morgan.

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

Wait a second BRMC, you were saying a few years back to hire Archie! My how you jump off the bandwagon when things get a little bumpy. Lol

Sure I was....but the difference between IU and, say, a North Carolina or UK is that when they see the experiment failing.....they don’t allow it to continue in the lab for another 10 years. They act swiftly when they see it’s a bad fit. Archie looked good on paper but maybe he’s more cut out for coaching at a mid level. My endorsement of a coach doesn’t sit still if they’ve proven they aren’t cut out for it.

 

[ORG]

Sure I was....but the difference between IU and, say, a North Carolina or UK is that when they see the experiment failing.....they don’t allow it to continue in the lab for another 10 years. They act swiftly when they see it’s a bad fit. Archie looked good on paper but maybe he’s more cut out for coaching at a mid level. My endorsement of a coach doesn’t sit still if they’ve proven they aren’t cut out for it.

It's still way to soon . . . way to soon.

 

[bnsummers]

We would still be Louisville they are so overrated like Purdue.

 

[IU Scott]

I as upset and disappointed in this team as anyone but to say we have to make a change after this year I just can agree with this, If we are still having these problems two years from now then it would be time for that change. I don't think the excuse that UK or UNC would let him go after two years makes it the correct thing to do. I just think if they make a change this year then the quality of the candidates would bee worse than it was two years ago.

 

[hoosier48]

It's still way to soon . . . way to soon.

It is and shouldn't be talked about. unfortunately it may take another year, but 7 in a row is hard to take

 

[ORG]

I think there would be a lot more interest in coaching UNC or Kentucky than coaching IU.

But it's just a guess.

 

[ORG]

It is and shouldn't be talked about. unfortunately, it may take another year, but 7 in a row is hard to take

I think CAM is still learning things about coaching at this level. Such as, it's a much tougher conference to play in then he expected; you can't get away with leaving two scholarships unfilled; injuries can quickly mount up; you need big bigs, and parts of the fanbase can be very impatient about reaching their unreasonable expectations.

 

[Hatchets7times]

It's not a matter of he should get another year.
He's going to get most likely 2 more without pressure from above..
Now if were even close to this 3 year's from now.
I'd be all in on a in season fire..

 

[bailey777]

If a change is made, whether it's this year or next year.


I would target someone like Buzz Williams. He has shown he can win in major conferences. Good Offensive coach that plays up and down. Charismatic but not too Charismatic. Good recruiter. They should have hired someone like this to begin with.

The problem is the man making the hires in Fred Glass. He make every wrong choice a guy could make.

 

[bailey777]

It's not a matter of he should get another year.
He's going to get most likely 2 more without pressure from above..
Now if were even close to this 3 year's from now.
I'd be all in on a in season fire..

If he misses the tourney again next year I do not know how you could justify giving him a fourth yeart. Of course they will give him one but the writing would be on the wall.

 

[IUgradman]

I think there would be a lot more interest in coaching UNC or Kentucky than coaching IU.

But it's just a guess.

Obviously, because if you coach there the school is 100% committed to winning and will do whatever you ask for. No expense is spared. IU does not want any coach to get too big, influential, or powerful so they hire weaker candidates.

 

[IU Scott]

First I will say there should be no change this year but two coaches who I really like watching their offenses play is Bob Mikillop of Davidson and Rick Byrd of Belmont. I know there is no way either one of these would even be candidates but just for a good X and O guy there is not much better. The other night I was flipping through to see what was on and I saw that Belmont was playing at Murray St and I wanted to see how good that Murray St player was. Belmont totally dominated that game with a lot of layups off of back door cuts and hit a lot of open 3's. I like watching good mid major teams play and have always enjoyed the style these two programs have played over the years. Both have been at these schools for around 30 years and are two old to change but they would be the kind of coach I think we would enjoy at IU.

 

[roader]

I posted this below - It’s hard as a fan, but it takes time. Look at Wright, Barnes, Pearl, Archie at Dayton, Bennett, Beilen .... the first few years are a struggle for most coaches.

Archie at Dayton had a decent team year he took over. The team he left when he came to IU put Dayton at lower-middle the pack A10. His last two recruiting classes were not good

 

[TommyCracker]

It shouldn't take IU three years to be a tournament team.

I said that during Crean's first three years (where in year three he went 3-15 in the conference).

That being said, other than Morgan we have absolutely no upperclassmen with the junior class (Davis, Jones and Green) being a complete bust.

Our sophomores aren't playing above their ranking other than Al, but he was barely a three star prospect. Justin has been okay like Nojel Eastern okay.

Our freshman class is basically two dudes right now.

That is pretty thin.

Davis from December is at least able to give us 10 productive minutes. That would have made a huge difference yesterday to combat their size. Instead we go to Moore, Forrester and good lord Fitzner.

 

[coachv jr]

A totally inept Crean leftover roster. Only one class of Archie recruits, and two of them are still out with injuries. No perimeter shooters, no healthy low post bangers. Crean did not balance the roster. Only one contributing upper clsssman - Morgan.

only one contributing upper classman. i think that really says it all.

 

[twenty02]

I think there would be a lot more interest in coaching UNC or Kentucky than coaching IU.

But it's just a guess.

You think? Lol.

 

[twenty02]

Archie at Dayton had a decent team year he took over. The team he left when he came to IU put Dayton at lower-middle the pack A10. His last two recruiting classes were not good

He won the conference his last 2 seasons there.

 

[victorbear]

Archie at Dayton had a decent team year he took over. The team he left when he came to IU put Dayton at lower-middle the pack A10. His last two recruiting classes were not good[/QUOTE
And he had a 146 ranked offense the year before he left how does that happen and you get hired by IU? Oh I know the answer...Freddy the clown glass!

 

[victorbear]

He won the conference his last 2 seasons there.

Shows you how bad Atlantic 10 is....his offenses were ranked 146 and 53 but with good defense. Probably thought that would work in the big ten, idiot.

 

[twenty02]

Shows you how bad Atlantic 10 is....his offenses were ranked 146 and 53 but with good defense. Probably thought that would work in the big ten, idiot.

And Texas Tech currently has 99th ranked offense, and Chris Beard is flavor of the week here. Lots of ways to win games. What's your point?

 

[victorbear]

And Texas Tech currently has 99th ranked offense, and Chris Beard is flavor of the week here. Lots of ways to win games. What's your point?

That’s not normal and generally will not work, you just cherry picked one school. If you think a 100 or so offense and top 20 defense will win well that’s like saying Crean could win big with a top 20 offense and 100 defense

 

[victorbear]

And Texas Tech currently has 99th ranked offense, and Chris Beard is flavor of the week here. Lots of ways to win games. What's your point?

Every ncaa champion since Ken Pom rankings has been a top 20 offense and top 20 defense except 2014 UConn.........

 

[twenty02]

That’s not normal and generally will not work, you just cherry picked one school. If you think a 100 or so offense and top 20 defense will win well that’s like saying Crean could win big with a top 20 offense and 100 defense

No of course it won't long term, in the B1G. But comparing rankings at an A10 school nationally is ridiculous. You have to compare it to peer teams in that conference.

I didn't cherry pick TT....I mentioned him because many posters kept talking about him the last week or so.

 

[victorbear]

No of course it won't long term, in the B1G. But comparing rankings at an A10 school nationally is ridiculous. You have to compare it to peer teams in that conference.

I didn't cherry pick TT....I mentioned him because many posters kept talking about him the last week or so.

No it’s not dude, check out Witchita states numbers when they were winning conference......

 

[victorbear]

No of course it won't long term, in the B1G. But comparing rankings at an A10 school nationally is ridiculous. You have to compare it to peer teams in that conference.

I didn't cherry pick TT....I mentioned him because many posters kept talking about him the last week or so.

You absolutely can compare Ken Pom numbers across conferences that’s why it’s so good. Check out Northern Iowa when they were really good. I’m not sure about VCU when they had Shaka but my guess pretty damn good too....

 

[twenty02]

You absolutely can compare Ken Pom numbers across conferences that’s why it’s so good. Check out Northern Iowa when they were really good. I’m not sure about VCU when they had Shaka but my guess pretty damn good too....

What the hell are you talking about? Even a really good A10 or MVC team isn't going to be at the top end of the national Ken Pom rankings, most years....with extreme exceptions like Wichita St when they were riding high.

Northern Iowa? They had one really good stand out team 4 years ago.