Indystar has an article today about Mullins. Sounds like UCONN is in front. Hurley told him he’d be in the NBA after 10 months at UCONN
Indystar? You can’t be serious.Indystar has an article today about Mullins. Sounds like UCONN is in front. Hurley told him he’d be in the NBA after 10 months at UCONN
If it ends up going this way...is there a reason why Woody seems to struggle closing the deal on these longer term recruiting battles? He's been pretty good at keeping people at IU, overall. And he's obviously been very good at the quick turnaround opportunistic recruiting with late decommits, and then portal kids. Who was the last kid he got that he had been recruiting for a long time, that ended up on IU's campus ultimately?Indystar has an article today about Mullins. Sounds like UCONN is in front. Hurley told him he’d be in the NBA after 10 months at UCONN
Yeah he's a top 25 recruit, every coach is going to tell him that on his visit.Sounds like UCONN is in front. Hurley told him he’d be in the NBA after 10 months at UCONN
Yeah he's a top 25 recruit, every coach is going to tell him that on his visit.
I wouldn't call this a long, drawn out recruitment unless he remains uncommitted/unsigned when the signing period opens in Novemeber. Of the top 25 recruits in the country, only three have given verbal commitments to date. Mullins will have taken all his OV's by the end of October and was quoted today in the Star saying that he wants to make a decision before his senior season starts in mid-November. This is a pretty typical timeline for this kind of recruit. Most of these schools he's visiting sans IU didn't extend an offer to Mullins until this summer, so it's not like these other coaches have been meticulous for an extending period of time.If it ends up going this way...is there a reason why Woody seems to struggle closing the deal on these longer term recruiting battles? He's been pretty good at keeping people at IU, overall. And he's obviously been very good at the quick turnaround opportunistic recruiting with late decommits, and then portal kids. Who was the last kid he got that he had been recruiting for a long time, that ended up on IU's campus ultimately?
A guess on why this is happening...purely conjecture based on listening to him talk to media, and some anecdotal stories... 1)he probably isn't good at, and doesn't enjoy, BSing and being positive with recruits and families for long periods of time. 2)He isn't a "process" guy. From how his teams play, you can tell he doesn't focus a ton of time on detail oriented stuff...or if he does, he isn't good at teaching it. Recruiting a kid through their high school journey, can be a grind. Lots of planned out emails, texts, visits, words of affirmation... I don't think working through meticulous processes is up Woody's Alley.
If you look for it, there's a ton of noise that says UConn is out because of location. I personally think it's a two way race between IU and UK.For sure.
If people think UCONN is some outlier in that portion of his recruitment, they're fooling themselves.
Woody was on Mullins during his junior year, then all summer. Can't remember if he was in on him before his Junior year started? That's not as long as the Haralson, or even Sisley recruitments, for sure. But if he gets him, it might be the longest successful recruitment he's had?I wouldn't call this a long, drawn out recruitment unless he remains uncommitted/unsigned when the signing period opens in Novemeber. Of the top 25 recruits in the country, only three have given verbal commitments to date. Mullins will have taken all his OV's by the end of October and was quoted today in the Star saying that he wants to make a decision before his senior season starts in mid-November. This is a pretty typical timeline for this kind of recruit.
He didn’t say anything like what you are saying. 🤣🤣🤣🥴Straight from Mullins mouth
Could be, he was offered last September so not even a full year ago. But I don't necessarily think this is a long, drawn out recruitment based on Mullins reported timeline given his profile.Woody was on Mullins during his junior year, then all summer. Can't remember if he was in on him before his Junior year started? That's not as long as the Haralson, or even Sisley recruitments, for sure. But if he gets him, it might be the longest successful recruitment he's had?
You said this on the other site and it still sounds just as dumb. Woodson is all in on this kid and has been for a long time. He offered this kid nearly 9 months before any of the other schools he's visiting did.If you look at his game. Then look at what we've seen from a Woody offense. If he truly wants to become the best at his position, and move on to the next level, why would anyone tell him to come to IU? I've had someone close to the family tell me he's an IU lock since the day he was offered and the more I went to see him play the more evident it became that staying close to home is the only reason he has to come here. All I heard all spring was Dalton Knecht comparisons. Look at the portal adds.
Haralson, Ament and a big are Woodys priorities. He wants his idea of pros.
Woody was basically the first high major to offer Mullins. For me, that was a pretty symbolic decision that he was valuing perimeter shooting more. Because at the time he offered Mullins, that's pretty much all he was known for. Since then, he's "blown up" because he's shown surprising athleticism, and an ability to score in a variety of ways.If you look at his game. Then look at what we've seen from a Woody offense. If he truly wants to become the best at his position, and move on to the next level, why would anyone tell him to come to IU? I've had someone close to the family tell me he's an IU lock since the day he was offered and the more I went to see him play the more evident it became that staying close to home is the only reason he has to come here. All I heard all spring was Dalton Knecht comparisons. Look at the portal adds.
Haralson, Ament and a big are Woodys priorities. He wants his idea of pros.
I don't think he's going to UK. But so far, you're right about Pope's offense fitting a guy like Mullins better than Woodson's has.He's going to UK. He fits perfectly in Pope's offense.
...of course so was Moreno~!That may be because they're the only official he's taken so far.
Still a long way to go in this one. He's taking something like 6 or 7 visits, supposedly.
He would have committed to UConn by now if he was going there. And Lexington is in Moreno's backyard, Storrs nearly 1,000 miles away from Mullins which is going to play a major factor in his recruitment. Everything I've heard about Mullin is that he wants to play close to home and is a huge, if not the only selling point for his mom. His dad on the other hand seems to love the attention his son is getting hence all the high profile visits. Michigan, IU, and Kentucky seem to be the three major players. Mullins dad along with Braylon grew up Michigan fans but appear to be too far behind. I see this as a two horse race between IU and UK....of course so was Moreno~!
Nothing. Lucked into the Kentucky job because nobody else wanted it.Why all the Pope love? What’s he done in the realm of coaching?
Runs a unique and fun offense. That emphasizes ball movement and 3 point shooting.Why all the Pope love? What’s he done in the realm of coaching?
It hasn't been particularly effective during his coaching career. But it does focus more on the perimeter, and 3 point shooting.Runs a unique and fun offense. That emphasizes ball movement and 3 point shooting.
BYU was one of several B12 programs who manipulated their NET ranking last season that was exposed early in the tournament.It hasn't been particularly effective during his coaching career. But it does focus more on the perimeter, and 3 point shooting.
It'll be interesting if he can be better at Kentucky, with all their resources, than he has been his first 2 stops. He certainly hasn't been all that good of a coach thus far.
I’ll take anything over Calipari.It hasn't been particularly effective during his coaching career. But it does focus more on the perimeter, and 3 point shooting.
It'll be interesting if he can be better at Kentucky, with all their resources, than he has been his first 2 stops. He certainly hasn't been all that good of a coach thus far.
“Glad to move on from a championship caliber head coach” lol…famous last words to live by.I’ll take anything over Calipari.
And not sure what you’re talking about, regarding his offense not being effective. B12 coaches all said his teams were the hardest to guard. The guy was at BYU, i’ll cut him some slack. I’m just excited to move on from Calipari.
Are they avid Woody fans??I know he has some avid IU fans in his family. We’ll see if that matters.
I know yall (Indiana fans) would die for Cal's record. Considering you've been the 3rd best program in Indiana for the last 30 years. But, here's a sobering stat:“Glad to move on from a championship caliber head coach” lol…famous last words to live by.
It’s not his offense….he has the same issue Cal had. Defense.I’ll take anything over Calipari.
And not sure what you’re talking about, regarding his offense not being effective. B12 coaches all said his teams were the hardest to guard. The guy was at BYU, i’ll cut him some slack. I’m just excited to move on from Calipari.
Dude you were ready to hang yourselves after you hired Pope.I know yall (Indiana fans) would die for Cal's record. Considering you've been the 3rd best program in Indiana for the last 30 years. But, here's a sobering stat:
Cal; with 4 straight top 5 recruiting classes (2020-2023), from 2021-24 there was a chance to win 36 post-season games (24 possible NCAAT wins and 12 possible SECT wins). He won TWO.
Thanks for sharing:I know yall (Indiana fans) would die for Cal's record. Considering you've been the 3rd best program in Indiana for the last 30 years. But, here's a sobering stat:
Cal; with 4 straight top 5 recruiting classes (2020-2023), from 2021-24 there was a chance to win 36 post-season games (24 possible NCAAT wins and 12 possible SECT wins). He won TWO.
Don’t be shocked when Pope doesn’t come close to replicating Calipari’s success as it rarely happens that way. I’d be pissed as a UK fan with the last few years of Calipari but that’s easy to do when you’ve been that spoiled for so long. I think you along with other UK fans are losing perspective. There’s a reason why it took 4 guys saying no before Mitch landed on Pope.I know yall (Indiana fans) would die for Cal's record. Considering you've been the 3rd best program in Indiana for the last 30 years. But, here's a sobering stat:
Cal; with 4 straight top 5 recruiting classes (2020-2023), from 2021-24 there was a chance to win 36 post-season games (24 possible NCAAT wins and 12 possible SECT wins). He won TWO.
Cal's issues were both. Until last season. Which was an outlier. And Cal still reverted to pounding the rock inside. The defense just fell off a cliff starting in 2019-2020. Up to that point, his teams were always good defenisve teams.It’s not his offense….he has the same issue Cal had. Defense.
No UK fan is asking for that. We just want to do better than the last 5 years. The guy won 2 tourney games of any kind since 2020. 1 in the SECT and one in the NCAA.Don’t be shocked when Pope doesn’t come close to replicating Calipari’s success as it rarely happens that way. I’d be pissed as a UK fan with the last few years of Calipari but that’s easy to do when you’ve been that spoiled for so long. I think you along with other UK fans are losing perspective. There’s a reason why it took 4 guys to say no before Pope accepted.
That is true. But it's because we were expecting a bit more...oompf, lmao. I'm behind the guy. I wanna see what he could do. He may fail. But I'd take anything over Cal.Dude you were ready to hang yourselves after you hired Pope.
UK would have given the job to Oats or Billy before Pope, but they were just quick no’s/non-starters and it didn’t get to the offer stage.No UK fan is asking for that. We just want to do better than the last 5 years. The guy won 2 tourney games of any kind since 2020. 1 in the SECT and one in the NCAA.
You said 4 guys, we offered Hurley and Drew. Oats was never offered (his own words). Donovan was also never offered. Drew accepted but his family did not. Hurley was a pipedream. He was never leaving UCONN for a chance at a 3 peat. Plus his wife wasn't leaving the northeast to live in the south.
We've been hearing your 'spiel' since Rupp left. 5 coaches with 8 titles.
You just hired a guy who’s never won a tournament game. And he was your 3rd choice lol? Hope whatever clear you’re drinking is at least good.No UK fan is asking for that. We just want to do better than the last 5 years. The guy won 2 tourney games of any kind since 2020. 1 in the SECT and one in the NCAA.
You said 4 guys, we offered Hurley and Drew. Oats was never offered (his own words). Donovan was also never offered. Drew accepted but his family did not. Hurley was a pipedream. He was never leaving UCONN for a chance at a 3 peat. Plus his wife wasn't leaving the northeast to live in the south.
We've been hearing your 'spiel' since Rupp left. 5 coaches with 8 titles.
False. They were never offered. Oats and Donovan both said they were never contacted.UK would have given the job to Oats or Billy before Pope, but they were just quick no’s and it didn’t get to the offer stage.