McCollum

[TMB333]

I mean the way some of you talk mccullum is going to come in and win 25 games a year no problem with his one year of D1 experience Boy if he flames out in four years what are you guys going to say then? I mean sure he could work out but he also could flame. I remember hearing how archie was a massive home run hire. People really like to pretend things like that were never said about archie.

Better chance with him than Beard

 

[DANC]

I mean the way some of you talk mccullum is going to come in and win 25 games a year no problem with his one year of D1 experience Boy if he flames out in four years what are you guys going to say then? I mean sure he could work out but he also could flame. I remember hearing how archie was a massive home run hire. People really like to pretend things like that were never said about archie.

I never called Archie a home run hire, and, in fact, expressed my disappointment at the time he was hired.

Don't lump me in with 'people'.

 

[Bippy]

I never called Archie a home run hire, and, in fact, expressed my disappointment at the time he was hired.

Don't lump me in with 'people'.

What would I say then? I’d say that I was wrong.
But he looks like the most attractive guy out there now. That was not the case with Archie.

 

[DANC]

What would I say then? I’d say that I was wrong.
But he looks like the most attractive guy out there now. That was not the case with Archie.

I didn't agree with the Archie hire, but I understand it.

My feeling is, they couldn't have interviewed him much beyond a cursory introduction. There was no way he has the personality to handle a job like IU's.

 

[asindc]

So what happens if Drake gets waxed in the first round?

Probably the same thing that happened when UK lost in the first round last year.

In Mike Woodson's best season - 23 - IU was in the 7% in off efficiency. Beard has matched Mike Woodson once. Top 8% this year, top 7% during his tourney run but at seasons end before his lucky run they were sub 10%.

Every champion in the 30 sec era was in the 3% (UNC 3%, Kansas2%) with most in the 1% (everyone else). Beard has never come close. This team, is probably his best offensive team .. and isn't as good as Woodson's best offensive team. So was Woodson's 23 offense "elite"? lmao ..

He's elite defensively, his pinnacle in offense has been as good as Mike Woodson offensively. Certainly not elite. To be elite he would have to be elite in both.

To be a champion, the coach has to have the ability to teach elite offense and the philosophy to play an elite offense combined with a good (10% or better) defense. He has not shown he has the chops on offense side. Not even close.

Is he better than what we have? Defensively, yes, he's a good coach but until he ditches that geriatric snooze fest of an ineffective dinosaur offense and joins the 21st century, he'll probably never win a championship.

We want championships, right?

This is my hesitation about Beard as well. Even his best team did not impress me as being dynamic offensively. I won’t complain if he is hired, but I won’t be excited, either.

 

[asindc]

I mean the way some of you talk mccullum is going to come in and win 25 games a year no problem with his one year of D1 experience Boy if he flames out in four years what are you guys going to say then? I mean sure he could work out but he also could flame. I remember hearing how archie was a massive home run hire. People really like to pretend things like that were never said about archie.

I mean the way some of you talk, Beard is going to come in and win 25 games a year no problem with his one deep run in the NCAAT and several middle of the pack conference finishes. Boy, if he flames out in four years what are you guys going to say then? I mean sure, he could work out but he also could flameout. I remember hearing how Archie was a massive home run hire. People really like to pretend things like that were never said about Archie.

For the record, I’m not against Beard being the guy, I just prefer McCollum or McCasland.

 

[IUgradman]

I mean the way some of you talk, Beard is going to come in and win 25 games a year no problem with his one deep run in the NCAAT and several middle of the pack conference finishes. Boy, if he flames out in four years what are you guys going to say then? I mean sure, he could work out but he also could flameout. I remember hearing how Archie was a massive home run hire. People really like to pretend things like that were never said about Archie.

For the record, I’m not against Beard being the guy, I just prefer McCollum or McCasland.

Beard has taken his team to two Elite eights and almost won a national title. He had Texas in the top ten in his second season and turned around a moribund Ole Miss program quickly.

 

[asindc]

Beard has taken his team to two Elite eights and almost won a national title. He had Texas in the top ten in his second season and turned around a moribund Ole Miss program quickly.

Understood. As I said, I’m not against Beard, but I do hesitate because I generally don’t see a lot of offensive firepower from his teams.

 

[frikkenfrakken]

Beard has taken his team to two Elite eights and almost won a national title. He had Texas in the top ten in his second season and turned around a moribund Ole Miss program quickly.

He also got fired for cause. He is not without risk.

 

[TR32]

This is a disaster waiting to happen. I will be ready to tell you I told you so if McCollum is hired. This has Archie 2.0 all over it.

He has to recruit the Jeremy Fears and the Malik Reneaus to be successful at the next level. If he can do that he probably will be.

 

[IUgradman]

He also got fired for cause. He is not without risk.

I don’t think he is going to assault his girlfriend again. He knows he can’t afford any more screw ups.

 

[kmathum]

This is a disaster waiting to happen. I will be ready to tell you I told you so if McCollum is hired. This has Archie 2.0 all over it.

And I'll be just as ready to do the same for you when he's wildly successful here. But I'm sure by that time you'll be hard to find. Hiding behind a new name.

 

[IndyMitchell]

He also got fired for cause. He is not without risk.

According to those that know more about Texas, his attorney overplayed his hand and then they chose to fire him.

 

[UncleMark]

I didn't agree with the Archie hire, but I understand it.

My feeling is, they couldn't have interviewed him much beyond a cursory introduction. There was no way he has the personality to handle a job like IU's.

I'm not sure what the "personality" thing has to do with the quality of the basketball product put on the floor. That said, he was clueless about IU culture -- I would have fired him on the spot when the team didn't come out for Knight's return to Assembly Hall. That was unforgivable.

 

[TR32]

I have been sticking with Scott Drew call me crazy.

Admittedly I'm not a huge fan, but I can at least admit that he could probably win at IU. However, his contract is super high. I'm not sure IU puts that kind of money down for another buyout.

 

[BA47591]

I'm not sure what the "personality" thing has to do with the quality of the basketball product put on the floor. That said, he was clueless about IU culture -- I would have fired him on the spot when the team didn't come out for Knight's return to Assembly Hall. That was unforgivable.

I think the personality of the coach will definitely be reflected in the product on the court.

 

[BA47591]

Better chance with him than Beard

I think it will come out at some point that one of the choices doesn't have us on his list.