MAGA Coalition Falling Apart
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I think the former is a big fan of Medicare and SS and govt protection of jobs (tarrifs, anti free trade etc)..... The latter not so much
We ate at a Chinese place for lunch today and the two girls that helped us were named Tina and Wendy who both spoke very broken English.
Please don't tell me you think Republicans are going to throw grandma over the cliff. That old canard is played out.
Yeah, it's only an issue for shit stirers. Although there is a lot wrong with the current H1B system.
Try giving programming directions to someone in India. It would be high comedy if it wasn't so frustrating.
Nothing like trying to problem solf a software problem when their 8 hour shift is over. No OT for those people - you're handed off to the next person and have to basically explain everything and start over again to bring them up to speed. All while you've been awake all night and still have to work that day.
I retired from HP. In their Enterprise services, so didn't deal with hardware. But their software support wasn't any better.
Theyy are, but I don't think most people view it as such. To them, it's protecting domestic jobs.
I will opine more tomorrow. My view is that there is a significant fifth column in this country. Dozens of members of Congress are dual nationals. How many citizenships does Musk have? He shouldn't be anywhere near the US govt until he renounces his other nationalities. There are some governments that do not allow for this. In those few examples ok. When will the denaturalization proceedings start for his working illegally while on a student visa?
I think Trump voters are largely correct in recognizing that the country has been completely sold out. The problem is that the folks they are voting for are a large part of the problem. Sadly, there are no good alternatives at the moment. Trump who knowingly employed illegals to make his bedsheets is going to solve illegal immigration? He had Congress for 2 years and got 40 miles of wall built. He put forward the correct H1B rule to require wages to prove demand but waited until the 11th hour so the clock died. He did nothing on OPT in 4 years. He did nothing on birthright citizenship in term 1. Instead he punished American citizens while rewarding foreign students and woke institutions.
The alternative party is infatuated with social issues that may impact .01% of the population while the rest of us deal with inflation shit sandwiches and crime gone wild. Delusions of lunacy. They think that to help the world you must import the problems here. No, we get out own shit in order.
Personally, you want low wage workers to keep inflation down and keep the higher paying jobs for your own people. I prefer something like what the Emirates has. Come here and farm and work the low wage jobs and they are happy with the pay relative to their countries with no pathway to residency.
We will need DEI soon for Americans at this rate. Dozens of lawsuits on the caste system in corporate America. This is a pure MIGA administration. Israel and India. An Israeli Hawkish cabinet. And individuals like Kash Patel who are open about their pro-India ideology. FYI, musk can't even sell his vehicles in India.
For illegal immigration software already exists. Change the damn laws and put people behind bars. Any executive whose company hires an illegal 5 years straight in the pony. Do not pass go. Setup gulags. That will be solved in all of 2 minutes. Both parties love illegal immigration. And close the f-ing Darien gap. Get rid of the bogus asylum claims. First safe country! In what sane world can a Hindu claim religious persecution in India and travel through 25 countries to make that claim here?
H1B you can see salary database... 2-3 times less than American coworkers. The other fraud is OPT. Trump can end on day 1 with one swipe of the pen. He won't. OPT no social security and Medicare tax! Employers love it! Work those students like dogs for peanuts.
This country is rotting to the core and going to shit. I'm relatively young but I still can't believe that SVB bailout when Cuban, Sacks, Thiel, etc were threatening a national bank run if they didn't get bailouts. The billionaire bank heist. Everyone knew the 250k rule. In any normal country the President would have declared martial law and arrested them for sedition. The crypto ponzi is another whopper. Legalize and institutionalize ponzi schemes. What a sad state of affairs. Any official who speaks against or attempts to weaken the USD belongs behind bars. I want a Singapore tough on crime model and root out corruption. Pay congressional members $1m per year if you must.
No I just got back from Bolivia. I'm not a Libertarian. I want a tough on crime agenda. The first step act was a disaster.
Don’t think I ever spoke to an American. I went on some classic tirades, enjoyed immensely by employees unfortunate enough to be within a mile or so.
I got so bad on the phone with those guys - I worked from home and my 8 year old daughter wold come home from school and play in the basement, where I worked. I realized how bad I was when she repeated my conversations to her mother.
There are two very diametric platforms playing out under the same platform. It should be very obvious to anyone paying attention.
Because Trump loves the constitution. Bet you get no tax cut, but you know we all don’t take calculus
Trump gave Elon access for money. According to Bannon. Elon just practicing smart business.
Notice that @dbmhoosier is absent. He's waiting marching orders but signals are crossed.
Government is not a business and never will be. Doesn't mean it can't be continually pushed for improvement
Elon going to WAR!!
Guy is definitely on the spectrum and is now getting backed into the corner.
twenty I have a one word response to your thread. “ ClickBait “Didn't even make it to the inauguration .
Vivek and Elon being relentlessly attacked for supporting H1B visas for Silicon Valley.
Laura Loomer 'demonetized' by X after criticizing Elon.
Steve Bannon Joins War Against Elon Musk as MAGA Implodes
Donald Trump’s biggest fans are at each other’s throats over immigration, and H-1B visas in particular.newrepublic.com
Trump advisers Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy expose rift with MAGA loyalists over immigrant tech workers
The backlash escalated Thursday, when Vivek Ramaswamy, in a post on X, criticized an American culture that he said “venerated mediocrity over excellence.”www.nbcnews.com
Ok… I stand corrected. I was wrong.
I was looking at it in regards to hiring employees and awarding contracts. I consider those business practices. But I see where I’m wrong since the goal isn’t to make money.
Some of those are software and some are consulting or IT services. Delivery and customer experiences should be markedly different.
both things can be true. There is unquestionably a shortage of engineers (not just on the software/tech side) in this country given where we are and where we would like to be (think infrastructure renovations, IT and technology enhancements, medical device and biopharma development). We also are facing doctor and other highly skilled laborer shortages.
But there are definitely some personal agenda points woven into the narrative that will benefit Elon and other tech bros.
I wish you would come around here more… one of the best posts ITT.
Connecting the dots with other statements and arguments that I’ve made in regards to manufacturing… we don’t want all of these jobs. If people are seeking cheap labor in India, Indonesia, etc. for offshoring, much of that is NOT high value work. Given the labor situation and demographic trends, America ought to be focused on the high value side of the economy, both in regards to manufacturing and services.
Compete on ingenuity, IP, design and development, etc. for high value applications there is plenty of margin (SaaS, medical devices, biotech, pharma, A&D).
Unfortunately, the goal is to make money for most people in government.
Is Musk censoring MAGA now?
www.yahoo.com
"Divorce is coming soon": MAGA civil war erupts after Trump allies accuse Elon Musk of "censorship"
Trump ally Laura Loomer accused Musk of throttling accounts that criticized his call for immigrant worker visas
Musk want racist out of Republican party. I agree but who would be left? Jk jk 😂
Musk taking over the party is great. I fully endorse the takeover. He really won the election anyway. Trump is a has been.
www.yahoo.com
Musk taking over the party is great. I fully endorse the takeover. He really won the election anyway. Trump is a has been.
Musk says ‘hateful unrepentant racists’ must be removed from Republican Party as visa feud deepens
‘They will absolutely be the downfall of the Republican Party if they are not removed,’ Tesla and SpaceX tycoon warns
Government isn’t a business, I agree.
But they do share things in common. And there are absolutely ways government could be improved immensely by being run more like a business.
This is correct.
And the business world is where it should look for ideas to improve. Businesses have to be responsive to customers. Businesses have to be financially responsible. Businesses have to hire and fire people (and be able to do so with relative ease).
You are right, government isn’t a business and never will be. But we shouldn’t take that observation any farther than that. Government is an organization. What customers are to businesses, citizens are to government. And the similarities don’t end there.
Trump’s silence on this is deafening….and kinda fascinating, too.
All of these debates may provide entertainment for the rest of us. But they are playing to an audience of precisely one.
They don't need to look anywhere. It's all in the IG reports. Implementation is lacking. Much to blame Congress for.
No pay for performance in govt. Top end is underpaid and low end overpaid.
If you want to squeeze more value out of govt you need more jews and asians in govt. Too many trackers and bean counters who are tracking everything but the correct things.
Where did yoiu get that idea? You can’t be talking about federal workers. Their pay scale is online.
Maybe best trip of my life. Lima, Machu P, Cusco, la Paz, 3 day/2 night tour of salar d uyuni. Cross into Chile flight down to Santiago and direct flight back on American. Had never been South of US border before except Bahamas on cruise.
Btw we bailout these American airlines so they can turn around and serve us shit and treat us like shit. American doesn't sniff the middle east airlines rears. What an absolute horse caca experience. Thankfully I used Alaskan points. If you ever fly Qatar air. Jesus Christ what is the US econ experience. And bailouts...
