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Trump says Biden’s autopen pardons are ‘void, vacant and of no further force or effect,’ vows probe of Jan. 6 House select committee
President Trump claims pardons made by Biden in the last minutes of his presidency have been “VOID, VACANT, AND OF NO FURTHER FORCE OR EFFECT” since the former commander-in-chief used “Autopen.”…
The Biden extended family (along with several other folks) might be moving to Ecuador soon (no ext. treaty)... 😉😎
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I don’t think there was any need to pardon them and dislike the idea of preemptive pardons, but signing them by autopen is nothing. They’re legal if Biden authorized that. President Trump made up the part about President Biden not knowing about the pardons. There’s no evidence of that and Biden talked about the possibility of those pardons two weeks before he did it. This is another nutty distraction.Trump says Biden’s autopen pardons are ‘void, vacant and of no further force or effect,’ vows probe of Jan. 6 House select committee
President Trump claims pardons made by Biden in the last minutes of his presidency have been “VOID, VACANT, AND OF NO FURTHER FORCE OR EFFECT” since the former commander-in-chief used “Autopen.”…
The Biden extended family (along with several other folks) might be moving to Ecuador soon (no ext. treaty)... 😉😎
🙈🙉🙊
🍺🇺🇸🍺
Clown Show post from the Clown Show president.Trump says Biden’s autopen pardons are ‘void, vacant and of no further force or effect,’ vows probe of Jan. 6 House select committee
President Trump claims pardons made by Biden in the last minutes of his presidency have been “VOID, VACANT, AND OF NO FURTHER FORCE OR EFFECT” since the former commander-in-chief used “Autopen.”…
The Biden extended family (along with several other folks) might be moving to Ecuador soon (no ext. treaty)... 😉😎
🙈🙉🙊
🍺🇺🇸🍺
Mike Johnson has made clear that there were at least some things Biden had no recollection or knowledge of signing.
There could be some interesting books that come out in the next several years. Money will always rule over loyalty.
Tapper’s book shouldn’t be entitled Original Sin; It should be How Ironical is it That I Wrote this Book?.New book on Biden by Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson reports a ‘cover up’ about his decline | CNN Business
The day after Donald Trump won the 2024 election, CNN anchor Jake Tapper and Axios correspondent Alex Thompson decided to co-author a book about what had led the Democratic party to defeat, with a focus on former President Joe Biden.amp.cnn.com
Serious mental decline coverup
If I did it: Confessions of the Anchor
Biden wasn’t competent at that point, hence autopen. It’s not hard to comprehend.I don’t think there was any need to pardon them and dislike the idea of preemptive pardons, but signing them by autopen is nothing. They’re legal if Biden authorized that. President Trump made up the part about President Biden not knowing about the pardons. There’s no evidence of that and Biden talked about the possibility of those pardons two weeks before he did it. This is another nutty distraction.
Trump Lays Groundwork for Investigating People Pardoned by Biden — The Wall Street Journal
President asserts in social-media post that Biden’s pardons were ‘void, vacant, and of no further force of effect’apple.news
Tapper was a part of the coverup.New book on Biden by Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson reports a ‘cover up’ about his decline | CNN Business
The day after Donald Trump won the 2024 election, CNN anchor Jake Tapper and Axios correspondent Alex Thompson decided to co-author a book about what had led the Democratic party to defeat, with a focus on former President Joe Biden.
Serious mental decline coverup
Are you really as dumb as you seem here? Did you miss the part that Presidents since Truman have used the autopen? That includes President Trump who used it to sign 30 or so of his Executive Orders. Try to focus really hard. Autopen isn’t an issue. If Biden authorized it for a bill, Executive Order, or pardons, they’re all good to go.
Autopen isn't disqualifying.
I don’t think a facsimile signature is valid absent a clear extrinsic evidence that the official authorized the facsimile.
Trump says Biden’s autopen pardons are ‘void, vacant and of no further force or effect,’ vows probe of Jan. 6 House select committee
President Trump claims pardons made by Biden in the last minutes of his presidency have been “VOID, VACANT, AND OF NO FURTHER FORCE OR EFFECT” since the former commander-in-chief used “Autopen.”…
The Biden extended family (along with several other folks) might be moving to Ecuador soon (no ext. treaty)... 😉😎
🙈🙉🙊
🍺🇺🇸🍺
If a President has authorized the use of an autopen, then the mere presence of an autopen signature on a document should constitute prima facie evidence that the signature was authorized, and the burden should be on those attacking the document to demonstrate otherwise.
Auto pen schmauto pen. An auto pen signature is not any different than my paralegal signing my name. The are specific rules about using facsimiles and copies in lieu of original material.
I mentioned that in the other thread. However, the pardons could in theory be assailed if there were some evidence that he didn't authorize them, since on that issue, the presence of a signature would be irrelevant with regards to validity, and only bear on the possibility of fraud.
There indeed might be proof that the autopenned pardons are valid.. But that proof will need to be a clear contemporaneous statement from Biden authorizing the facsimile signature.
Again, no. I believe they must be accepted with a presumption of validity, and the burden will be on the prosecution to present evidence that they are not.
Clown show?
The prosecution must prove absence of a pardon? I think a pardon is a matter of immunity which defendant must prove if the prosecution doesn’t stipulate.
They have a written pardon. Yes the burden is on the prosecution to prove it is fake
The defendant can't simply say, "I have a pardon." But they can produce one, and then I think it is upon the prosecution to attack it as invalid.
Which doesn't matter for the reasons I already laid out in both threads.
Hmm, where were you in the classified documents debate when I said an ex-president who basically says, "if I have a document it was declassified even if no one knew it" couldn't work?
Biden wasn’t competent. He didn’t have the mental acuity to “authorize” it. You are dumb.
Why would the burden be on the prosecution? Prosecutors bring charges to show a crime was committed. The burden rests with the defendant to show an out. Why would this be any different?
