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Looks Like an 11-Seed For Us, If..

Hope you’re right.

Va Tech likely jumped us last night.

Texas A&M might already have. But for sure will if they beat Kentucky today.

Davidson game shouldn’t matter I wouldn’t think. Unless IU is one of the last 1 or 2 teams in. Which I can’t imagine is true.
 
Hope you’re right.

Va Tech likely jumped us last night.

Texas A&M might already have. But for sure will if they beat Kentucky today.

Davidson game shouldn’t matter I wouldn’t think. Unless IU is one of the last 1 or 2 teams in. Which I can’t imagine is true.

I don't think we're on the bubble like that.. beating Illinois I think put us over the hump.
 
Just the fact that we almost(shoulda) beat Iowa should get us out of a playin game! What are we, like 1-3 in game ending shots this year? RPs shot against Purdue is the only one we got. yesterdays loss and the Rutgers loss and I feel like there was another one. Those shouldnt count against us too much!
 
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Hope you’re right.

Va Tech likely jumped us last night.

Texas A&M might already have. But for sure will if they beat Kentucky today.

Davidson game shouldn’t matter I wouldn’t think. Unless IU is one of the last 1 or 2 teams in. Which I can’t imagine is true.
No chance VT gets a better seed than us. The ACC is straight trash, the computer knows it. I’ll be shocked if any of them make the second weekend. The big ten is gonna do well this year. Might even be there year.
 
Just the fact that we almost(shoulda) beat Iowa should get us out of a playin game! What are we, like 1-3 in game ending shots this year? RPs shot against Purdue is the only one we got. yesterdays loss and the Rutgers loss and I feel like there was another one. Those shouldnt count against us too much!
IU's worst loss was vs the BTT #4 seed after they had turned the corner.
 
B1G is balanced this year, but I wouldn’t say really good. They will struggle with non B1G refs!
The disparity in fouls called in a B1G game always amazes me - yesterdays MSU vs pu is an example 21 fouls vs 9!
BIG can do well this year if the coaches make the adjustments necessary. The WWE and flopping crap won't cut it and they are going to have to start dribbling on the drives to the rim.
 
No chance VT gets a better seed than us. The ACC is straight trash, the computer knows it. I’ll be shocked if any of them make the second weekend. The big ten is gonna do well this year. Might even be there year.
I don’t know man, they just housed Notre Dame, North Carolina, and Duke. All solid NCAA teams. I’d be very surprised if they aren’t a 10-11 seed.
 
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B1G is balanced this year, but I wouldn’t say really good. They will struggle with non B1G refs!
The disparity in fouls called in a B1G game always amazes me - yesterdays MSU vs pu is an example 21 fouls vs 9!

Why do you think each team fouls at the same rate every game? What a bizarre stance.
 
they lost to BC….
Recency bias. They just drilled UNC and Duke. Who everyone loves. If we benefit from squeaking by Michigan and Illinois, and a close loss to Iowa. Surely they’ll get big bumps from clobbering UNC and Duke.

I know the whole resume probably says different.
 
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Recency bias. They just drilled UNC and Duke. Who everyone loves. If we benefit from squeaking by Michigan and Illinois, and a close loss to Iowa. Surely they’ll get big bumps from clobbering UNC and Duke.

I know the whole resume probably says different.
UNC and Duke are both over rated this season. If Duke ends up on the two or even three line it weakens the bracket materially.
 
If we are an 11 seed, we will play a 6 seed in the first game and then 3 if we win. I actually think this is a good position for us. Additionally, I think one of the things that hurt us this year is that we did not play “big ten “ wrestleball. I almost think different officiating may benefit teams like us and Illinois and will hurt Wisconsin and MSU.
 
Recency bias. They just drilled UNC and Duke. Who everyone loves. If we benefit from squeaking by Michigan and Illinois, and a close loss to Iowa. Surely they’ll get big bumps from clobbering UNC and Duke.

I know the whole resume probably says different.
NC state!!! The committee said they weigh every game no matter November or March.
 
I think we're an 11 with Duke or UK the 3 in the same bracket. Bring it bitches!
Unlikely to be UK--they're likely going to be in Indy, and the committee wouldn't put us there to give us a home crowd advantage in a R64 game (we'd have to be a protected seed to get that).

But I think Greenville is very much in play for us for a possible R32 meeting with DUKE.
 
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If we are an 11 seed, we will play a 6 seed in the first game and then 3 if we win. I actually think this is a good position for us. Additionally, I think one of the things that hurt us this year is that we did not play “big ten “ wrestleball. I almost think different officiating may benefit teams like us and Illinois and will hurt Wisconsin and MSU.

Kofi takes exception to your not including Illinois in the “wrestleball” grouping.
 
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No chance VT gets a better seed than us. The ACC is straight trash, the computer knows it. I’ll be shocked if any of them make the second weekend. The big ten is gonna do well this year. Might even be there year.
I have VT as a 9 with us as an 11. Their metrics are better than us by a mile (and that's even with us beating MICH and ILL).
 
No chance VT gets a better seed than us. The ACC is straight trash, the computer knows it. I’ll be shocked if any of them make the second weekend. The big ten is gonna do well this year. Might even be there year.
I bet Va Tech has jumped us..
Hokies could beat us..Just because we made a decent run for three day's..Our problems came back in those those last 5 min yesterday .Just to remind us all..
 
Kofi is just a man child. I’m talking about all the pushing and grabbing on cuts and the lack of fouls on drives that other leagues call regularly.
 
Kofi is just a man child. I’m talking about all the pushing and grabbing on cuts and the lack of fouls on drives that other leagues call regularly.
Which is why they'll probably be bounced early much like last year. The NCAA tournament isn't the UFC.
 
NC state!!! The committee said they weigh every game no matter November or March.
Man I saw one of the guys on the committee say the brackets were mostly done on Thursday. They point blank asked about the conference tournaments. He basically said they don’t carry as much weight. First time I heard that.
 
Man I saw one of the guys on the committee say the brackets were mostly done on Thursday. They point blank asked about the conference tournaments. He basically said they don’t carry as much weight. First time I heard that.
They carry the same weight as November. When VT lost to mc state at home. We have no bad losses. And some great dubs. Enjoy this day. Don’t stress
 
I have VT as a 9 with us as an 11. Their metrics are better than us by a mile (and that's even with us beating MICH and ILL).
What metrics exactly? Nonconf SOS, yes, but beyond that most metrics have IU about equal or ahead. They had 1 Q1 win entering the ACC tournament, and only 3 now, and 2 Q3 losses.
 
Man I saw one of the guys on the committee say the brackets were mostly done on Thursday. They point blank asked about the conference tournaments. He basically said they don’t carry as much weight. First time I heard that.
I think what they mean is that, by Thursday of Conference Tourney Week, there are only a few spots left in play, with maybe 63 of 68 already claimed. You might have 12-16 teams that are battling for those last 5 at-large bids. For those teams conference tourney results matter, but a team like Baylor taking a loss really isn't that significant and may not even change their seed line.
 
What metrics exactly? Nonconf SOS, yes, but beyond that most metrics have IU about equal or ahead. They had 1 Q1 win entering the ACC tournament, and only 3 now, and 2 Q3 losses.
There are six metrics on the team sheets: NET, KPI (Kevin Pauga), SoR (component of ESPN's BPI), BPI, KenPom and Sagarin. Through last night:

NETKPISoRBPIPOMSAG
VT
27​
49​
44​
19​
23​
27​
IND
39​
59​
48​
33​
38​
30​

So it's close in SoR and Sagarin, but VT is very much ahead in the other four. And the NET is the elephant in the room, for the most part.

VT is also 9-10 in Q1/Q2 games. IND is 8-12.

So yeah, they're ahead of us, and fairly comfortably as far as seed.
 
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No chance VT gets a better seed than us. The ACC is straight trash, the computer knows it. I’ll be shocked if any of them make the second weekend. The big ten is gonna do well this year. Might even be there year.
VT cannot be in the play in games. AQ’s are guaranteed to not have to play the play ins.
 
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I think what they mean is that, by Thursday of Conference Tourney Week, there are only a few spots left in play, with maybe 63 of 68 already claimed. You might have 12-16 teams that are battling for those last 5 at-large bids. For those teams conference tourney results matter, but a team like Baylor taking a loss really isn't that significant and may not even change their seed line.
He really didn’t get specific. He was just saying most of the teams are picked. Not sending. He even stated the late games won’t move much. Man I wish I could find it. It’s not the one with Katz.
 
He really didn’t get specific. He was just saying most of the teams are picked. Not sending. He even stated the late games won’t move much. Man I wish I could find it. It’s not the one with Katz.
pretty sure I watched that. with KEllog?
 
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