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Langford projected at number 6 in the NBA draft (link)

Langford isn’t that good. I see him outside of the top ten. He’s too streaky, and couldn’t hit sand if he fell of s camel. He needs to drive every time he touches the balk and not settle for outside shots u less he improves that aspect of his game. He’s a slasher who can drive to the basket, not an outside shooter.
 
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in High School Romeo made a lot of deep 3s against very good competition. As a Junior in HS Romeo had 40 points against nationally ranked prep school powerhouse Laporte LaLumiere and McDonald's All-Americans Jaren Jackson and Bowen on ESPN National TV. Looks like Romeo could effortlessly shoot two years ago from 3pt range, and will again in the future. I was at this game in New Castle. Bill Self about fell out of his chair when Romeo dunked over 6'11" Jaren Jackson.
 
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Watch "Romeo Langford vs La Lumiere Highlights" on YouTube
in High School Romeo made a lot of deep 3s against very good competition. As a Junior in HS Romeo had 40 points against nationally ranked prep school powerhouse Laporte LaLumiere and McDonald's All-Americans Jaren Jackson and Bowen on ESPN National TV. Looks like Romeo could effortlessly shoot two years ago from 3pt range, and will again in the future. I was at this game in New Castle. Bill Self about fell out of his chair when Romeo dunked over 6'11" Jaren Jackson.
He has that same wrist wrap guess you can’t use that as an excuse this year.
 
Langford isn’t that good. I see him outside of the top ten. He’s too streaky, and couldn’t hit sand if he fell of s camel. He needs to drive every time he touches the balk and not settle for outside shots u less he improves that aspect of his game. He’s a slasher who can drive to the basket, not an outside shooter.
So who do you view as "good" in college basketball besides the Duke Freshmen?
 
He is great at driving to the hoop but will have to delevop the three point shot to really be effective in the NBA.
You mean like Demar Derozan. Oh wait. he still struggles with the 3 and has been a perennial all star.
 
Langford isn’t that good. I see him outside of the top ten. He’s too streaky, and couldn’t hit sand if he fell of s camel. He needs to drive every time he touches the balk and not settle for outside shots u less he improves that aspect of his game. He’s a slasher who can drive to the basket, not an outside shooter.
He has a wrist injury on his shooting hand.
 
Langford isn’t that good. I see him outside of the top ten. He’s too streaky, and couldn’t hit sand if he fell of s camel. He needs to drive every time he touches the balk and not settle for outside shots u less he improves that aspect of his game. He’s a slasher who can drive to the basket, not an outside shooter.

He is a FRESHMAN! If he had a consistent outside shot then he would be unguardable and a consensus top three pick.
 
Watch "Romeo Langford vs La Lumiere Highlights" on YouTube
in High School Romeo made a lot of deep 3s against very good competition. As a Junior in HS Romeo had 40 points against nationally ranked prep school powerhouse Laporte LaLumiere and McDonald's All-Americans Jaren Jackson and Bowen on ESPN National TV. Looks like Romeo could effortlessly shoot two years ago from 3pt range, and will again in the future. I was at this game in New Castle. Bill Self about fell out of his chair when Romeo dunked over 6'11" Jaren Jackson.

Looks to me like when you show highlights, you take away the 3 misses for each make.

I saw Trevion Williams stop him on the dribble in a one on one situation. That is a serious problem for a guy who struggles from range.
 
Romeo is not mentally ready. It is clear and I'm tired of arguing the point because I'd rather not. I think his career in the NBA will be longer and more prosperous if he stays and develops his mental and physical skills in college.
 
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Romeo is not mentally ready. It is clear and I'm tired of arguing the point because I'd rather not. I think his career in the NBA will be longer and more prosperous if he stays and develops his mental and physical skills in college.
It is clear you are not a scout or have a working crystal ball. How many top 1-10 players projected have a weakness in their game?
 
#6 Draft and not even an NIT bid, Alford didn't even do this bad.
Proving, once again, that star recruits do not a competitive team make. Teams who play sacrificing individuals for team are where champions come from. Look around at teams mentioned on this board in the last few days or so (Butler, Purdue and Texas Tech come to mind). Everyone who is well thought of as a team is also playing as a team with individuals subsumed by the whole.
 
Proving, once again, that star recruits do not a competitive team make. Teams who play sacrificing individuals for team are where champions come from. Look around at teams mentioned on this board in the last few days or so (Butler, Purdue and Texas Tech come to mind). Everyone who is well thought of as a team is also playing as a team with individuals subsumed by the whole.
NONE of these teams (Butler, Purdue, Texas Tech) will win the National Championship. But Duke might if Zion is healthy for the NCAA Tournament. There is a difference between competitive teams and championship level teams. And the difference is usually star players that are difference makers in close games. Butler went to the championship game with NBA players Gordon Hayward and Mack, for example, and a star head coach Brad Stevens. No Brad, no star players, nice team that plays well together, but not a Championship contender.
 
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He is great at driving to the hoop but will have to delevop the three point shot to really be effective in the NBA.
Great driving to the hoop when going right. Not very good going left, and, if he does, always puts it up with right hand. Someone in the pros will correct this and his shooting form. His best shot is step-back jumper from inside the arc.
 
If you would take Guy over Langford in the draft, then I am glad you are not the GM of my NBA team.
Sounds like something the Mavs would do? They took Jalen Brunson over Mitchell robinson. Brunson has some nice offensive skills but is up and down. His defense is putrid. He either gets blown by or taken out of the play by a screen.
 
I have seen Romeo play since he was in elementary school. He has always been very talented and a terrific athlete. He is also a good kid.

His outside shooting this year has been puzzling as everyone has pointed out on multiple occasions. But I have been equally surprised how limited his left hand is and that he seldom attacks going left.

I am surprised he is projected as high in the draft from what I have seen of his play this year. However, this appears to be a very weak draft which would explain why he is still projected as high as #6. Plus so much is put into upside and projectability which Romeo seems to have.
 
NONE of these teams (Butler, Purdue, Texas Tech) will win the National Championship. But Duke might if Zion is healthy for the NCAA Tournament. There is a difference between competitive teams and championship level teams. And the difference is usually star players that are difference makers in close games. Butler went to the championship game with NBA players Gordon Hayward and Mack, for example, and a star head coach Brad Stevens. No Brad, no star players, nice team that plays well together, but not a Championship contender.
Of course star players can play as a part of the team sacrificing personal fame for tea, Both Hayward and Mack were lightly regarded as high school players. Neither of them took over games for personal stats as college players.

Pretty good prognostication on your part. None of the 3 will likely win the NC, but they are worthy of attention and, at this moment, IU is missing from that list and unlikely to get on it this year. That's not Archie's fault. He's got chemistry trouble that he did not make. That has to work itself out.

I'd prefer that he recruit basketball players rather than athletes playing basketball. In the modern era (after WW II) IU has had one Super Star program. That was the Knight era. Did you see that happen? Look at the video, study the record, read the books by insiders. Only one conclusion is possible.

EDIT - Hayward was an unranked 3 star on Rivals recruiting and considering a tennis scholarship as he was all state. Mack was all Lexington and had no recruit rating that I can find. Butler found them, though after no Big Ten team even showed interest until the very end. They became a part of the team playing the Butler Way under a great coach. It doesn't happen everywhere. It needs to happen at IU.
 
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NONE of these teams (Butler, Purdue, Texas Tech) will win the National Championship. But Duke might if Zion is healthy for the NCAA Tournament. There is a difference between competitive teams and championship level teams. And the difference is usually star players that are difference makers in close games. Butler went to the championship game with NBA players Gordon Hayward and Mack, for example, and a star head coach Brad Stevens. No Brad, no star players, nice team that plays well together, but not a Championship contender.
you did not answer so i will try again. are you from marion?
 
Great driving to the hoop when going right. Not very good going left, and, if he does, always puts it up with right hand. Someone in the pros will correct this and his shooting form. His best shot is step-back jumper from inside the arc.
i agree about the step back jumper. haven't seen any defender able to contest it yet.
 
#6 Draft and not even an NIT bid, Alford didn't even do this bad.
Proving, once again, that star recruits do not a competitive team make. Teams who play sacrificing individuals for team are where champions come from. Look around at teams mentioned on this board in the last few days or so (Butler, Purdue and Texas Tech come to mind). Everyone who is well thought of as a team is also playing as a team with individuals subsumed by the whole.
Come on. If IU had Hunter and Thompson the entire year, and didn’t lose Phinisee for over a month, they would easily been a NCAA team. Theoretically, they’re still a bubble team if they win out and win a couple B1G tourney games.

Btw, Langford is one of our best defenders. The NBA loves his defensive potential.
 
Romeo is not mentally ready. It is clear and I'm tired of arguing the point because I'd rather not. I think his career in the NBA will be longer and more prosperous if he stays and develops his mental and physical skills in college.
NBA skills development is top notch, and they have more resources available.
 
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Romeo is a good player but he’s not a once in a generation type guy. He’s going to have to improve in a lot of categories to stay in the nba. It wouldn’t surprise me if he starts in the g league. How will he respond to criticism? He has never had to deal with it not even in college? He takes plays off, is a medicore shooter, and his defense isn’t that great. Don’t get me wrong, it if he works hard at improving his deficiencies, he could have a good nba career, but he’s not going to be able to do what he wants like he has his whole life playing basketball. His best weapon is driving to the basket, and taking contact or shooting the 15 footer. Occasionally, he will knock down a 3. He would never do it, but returning to Indiana would help him immensely.
 
Romeo is a good player but he’s not a once in a generation type guy. He’s going to have to improve in a lot of categories to stay in the nba. It wouldn’t surprise me if he starts in the g league. How will he respond to criticism? He has never had to deal with it not even in college? He takes plays off, is a medicore shooter, and his defense isn’t that great. Don’t get me wrong, it if he works hard at improving his deficiencies, he could have a good nba career, but he’s not going to be able to do what he wants like he has his whole life playing basketball. His best weapon is driving to the basket, and taking contact or shooting the 15 footer. Occasionally, he will knock down a 3. He would never do it, but returning to Indiana would help him immensely.
Areas he needs to improve ..
1. Handle (especially left)
2. Shot mechanics.

His inherent traits are not easy to find.
1. Even with a weak handle his finish rate at the rim is extraordinary.
2. Even with a weak handle his two point (not at the rim) rate is upper level.
3. Wingspan. < which will allow him to defend, and is the source of his finish rate.


Pro game is more open, quicker, has more transition and favors the offensive player more than college. He's built better for the pro game than the college game.

He can improve his handle and shot mechanics in a driveway, doesn't need college for that. The only thing college is good for is exposure and maturation, and he'll not go up in draft status if he stays regardless how well he does next year. The only reason he should stay in college is if he feels he isn't mature enough for a professional career, yet.

Claiming that college develops better than pros .. that's nonsense. They have the best in the business .. but it does take self motivation from the player to want to work. See Victor Oladipo .. who had the work ethic to improve every year he's been in the pros. His improvement in college was done as much in the summers where he worked with a trainer as it did when with the staff. He continued that when he moved on.

And considering Romeo will no longer need to go to class, and that his time being coached will increase and not be limited by rules, he would, if motivated to do so, have better opportunity and time to develop at the pro level.

I hope he stays too - though he won't - but won't rationalize my selfish IU fan reason into some fantasy that he'll develop better in college.
 
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Romeo is a good player but he’s not a once in a generation type guy. He’s going to have to improve in a lot of categories to stay in the nba. It wouldn’t surprise me if he starts in the g league. How will he respond to criticism? He has never had to deal with it not even in college? He takes plays off, is a medicore shooter, and his defense isn’t that great. Don’t get me wrong, it if he works hard at improving his deficiencies, he could have a good nba career, but he’s not going to be able to do what he wants like he has his whole life playing basketball. His best weapon is driving to the basket, and taking contact or shooting the 15 footer. Occasionally, he will knock down a 3. He would never do it, but returning to Indiana would help him immensely.
Romeo has NBA All-Star potential
 
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