There should be a balance. There's more than enough shooters that there could be. I'm beginning to think you have no clue what you're talking about.
Lack of disciple
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Well, OK, but I can tell when a shooter pathetically misses multiple wide open 3-pointers. I don't want "shooters" -- I want "hitters," and we just don't have them,
(Nor are you really explaining what you are talking about. Normally, you are specific.)
Have a good day.
Spot-on about Kitchel and Wittman, but Isiah didn't need screens; he was the best player on the floor for nearly every game in his IU career ... and could go one-on-one against anybody.
That team with Kitchell, Wittman, Isiah, Tolbert and Turner was the best shooting team I ever saw.
I remember a game against Vanderbilt, which was playing a 2-3 zone. Isiah brought the ball down and Wittman, Tolbert, Turner and Kitchell were lined up along the baseline.
Do the math -- a 2-3 zone cannot guard four guys lined up along the baseline. Isiah just stood out there feeding the ball to whichever one was open. Within their individual ranges, all four were deadeye.
After about three possessions, Vanderbilt switched to a man-to-man and lost.
Kitchell was going to shoot whether he got a screen or not.🙂
I remember the first time I saw Kitchell shoot a 3-pointer. I thought he was throwing it into the wooden bleachers in the end zone.
Instead, he was banking it. Imagine anyone today routinely shooting a bankshot 3-pointer, where the ball hits the upper corner of the backboard and swishes through the nets. That was a routine shot for Kitchell, from either the right side or left. Unbelievable.
We’re going to win games this year. Regardless of the coach we have a lot of talent and we have a shit schedule and the B1G is kinda shit this year. We’ll simply outlast teams on talent alone. Might not be impressive wins by impressive plays, but still wins. Hopefully a change is still made.
I think there is no discipline because there is no plan......rather than no plan resulting from a lack of discipline. How can he discipline for not following the plan when there is no plan.? It reminds me of when he encouraged Race Thompson to shoot 3s because he had no better ideas....even Race was like wtf.....
Agreed. His coaching biography would probably say he attempts to get favorable match ups to score on offense and prefers a high scoring point guard.
In essence, it is an NBA blue print where individual work ethic, discipline, and fundamental skills are brought to the table by seasoned pros. That is where the problem lies. These are college kids.
Spacing and then lobbing to Ballo for an easy 2, rhat part is fine. The rest of it comes from the fact these players need a system of play because they are at the college level.
Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles could combine for 1 of 20 from 3 Point Range.
This program is broken. The thing about having all of the new players coming in this year there was a high major body of work that came with them. I'm referring to the Pac 12 guys. Goode you knew was a 7th or 8th man for a good team. Then couple that with losing McNeely then Mullins to UConn and both still being vocal for their reasons why Indiana was not their destination. This unfortunately is what we needed to ensure a change. Limping into the tournament and winning a game would've seem this thing run through the duration of Woodys contract. You can't try to run a college team like it's a group of elite skilled grown men. It's proven over and over again. I would love to retain Carlyle, Tucker, Rice with Sisley and see how they play under our next coach.
Winthrop just blitzed ball screens in the first half. I didn't watch the second half and the radio crew made no mentions of what Winthrop was doing on defense, but I assume it was more of the same given the inability to pull away. Zero adjustments were made because ball screens are 80% of the offense and there's very little in his bag to fall back on.
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Those traps Winthrop kept running very effectively, disrupting the “IU Offense” (I use that term loosely) up top in the first half never seemed to be adjusted to during the TOs. Took until halftime to seemingly get dealt with.
2nd half seemed like Winthrop was not as effective with that, but stayed in the game with hustle, Reneau’s continued foul trouble, Mgbako’s laziness on both ends of the floor for 30 or so minutes, and continued piss poor shooting outside shooting. Hatton and Rice pulled these guys through in what sounded like on tv a funeral at AH.
2nd half seemed like Winthrop was not as effective with that, but stayed in the game with hustle, Reneau’s continued foul trouble, Mgbako’s laziness on both ends of the floor for 30 or so minutes, and continued piss poor shooting outside shooting. Hatton and Rice pulled these guys through in what sounded like on tv a funeral at AH.
The blitzes on ball screens weren't very effective in either half and there was no change in dealing with them in the 2nd half because there was no need to, Rice was making the correct reads.
It got the ball out of the PG hands, which is what it's meant to do but their rotational coverage after was pretty damn poor and gave IU a lot of easy baskets and open shots. Not disruptive at all ..
That will come back to haunt us in league play. Most of our opponents won't be as lacking in talent and athletes as Winthrop.
Yeah man, that’s what got us that whopping 1 point lead at the 3:00 mark, that was awesome!
Considering we went 1-20 on 3's and relied on a lot of Langdon Hatton in the post, it's surprising we had a lead at all.
Don't get me wrong, Woodson recruited Langdon Hatton and the kids that went 1-20, and Rice did have 3 turnovers, so im not saying we played well or Woodson did a good job, but our problems weren't because Woodson doesn't know how to scheme a blitz.
TJD used to catch short roll passes and go downhill 4 on 3 regularly against blitzing teams.
Indeed. And the inside scoring IU relies on against weaker opponents is going to harder to come by.
Systems? Everyone basically runs the same shit. IU is just predictable, simple and fairly unimaginative in half court.. and it probably wouldn't work any better if we had the Lakers running it.
What makes something a system vs a non system in the year 2025?
…and then along came Mr. 1-20 from 3-point land and said: “Here, hold my beer.”
a.k.a. Mr. 5%
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