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Jackson confirmation hearings

It's not a lawyer thing in the end, though. It's an obvious thing to a decent human who cares about others, understands some of the ugliness of the past, and sees the decadence of those who casually exploit the hatred of the least among us for self-advancement.

I don't disagree. I was just pointing out what happens when one adopts a particular doctrine or philosophy and treats it as immutable.

But I'm not shooting at you Mark. I don't come around here much any more, but you're one of the good ones.

You should come around more often. Hell, I might even change your mind.
 
Was able to listen to most of it today (so far) and have some random thoughts...

Her response to requests to describe her "judicial philosophy" was genius. Boiled down to "I don't have a judicial philosophy, I have a judicial methodology."

That said, she echoed many of the tenants of both originalism and texturalism (at least to my layman's understanding). Based on her responses so far today, no reasonable person could assume she'd be "activist" in her approach.

Lindsay Graham has gone around the bend. I remember in the before times when he was reasonable. Today he's an embarrassment.

Ted Cruz is a vile human being. Not that that wasn't already known, just that he reinforced it again today.
She will be a reliable activist. Democrat’s don’t miss with their appointments. You often see Republican appointed justices ruling against GOP policy preferences. You don’t see it with Democrat appointed justices, like I said, they don’t miss. They wipe their ass with the constitution in furtherance of their world view and Republicans need to start playing the same game.

No more Kavanaugh’s. No more Barrett’s and for gods sake no more Robert’s.
 
Was able to listen to most of it today (so far) and have some random thoughts...

Her response to requests to describe her "judicial philosophy" was genius. Boiled down to "I don't have a judicial philosophy, I have a judicial methodology."

That said, she echoed many of the tenants of both originalism and texturalism (at least to my layman's understanding). Based on her responses so far today, no reasonable person could assume she'd be "activist" in her approach.

Lindsay Graham has gone around the bend. I remember in the before times when he was reasonable. Today he's an embarrassment.

Ted Cruz is a vile human being. Not that that wasn't already known, just that he reinforced it again today.
Republicans always vile. Don’t member comments about vile democrats during the last few confirmations. Just doing their job.
 
in the end, Wall St gives Jackson the up or down.

Wall St owns more than enough senate votes. more than the Pubs or the Dems.

even the SCOTUS judges we think of as liberal socially, vote Wall St and big govt when needed.

even RBG did.

it isn't about her stances on anything social, that's just a dog and pony show diversion.

Wall St doesn't give a squat about abortion or trans rights or anything social.

they do care about Citizen's United, monopoly power, big govt power, money in politics.

it's all about what Wall St thinks she'll do on corporate, money in politics, and big govt, matters.
 
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What I want to know, why are they having hearings and wasting time and money!
 
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He was pissed she didn't sentence an 18 year old possessing child porn (with much younger victims) to a much longer sentence.
Our laws are wack. Damn near better off stabbing a guy in state court than possessing child porn in fed court with the guidelines
 
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Meanwhile …

Imagine actually coming out and openly admitting that you basically believe "interracial marriage" should have to be regulated or legalized. It's as if you're claiming that a natural attraction should have to meet the approval of someone else. By definition you're setting up the idea that you believe your view is somehow "superior", and dictating to someone else that ideal...

On the flipside Holcomb showed a modicum of rational thought today by vetoing the anti-Trans bill while unfortunately deciding to sign the absolute carry measure. He likely realized his veto would be overridden and he could basically play both sides of the fence, but that seems to be pretty much his niche as a social moderate.
It’s almost unimaginable that someone would say that out loud in 2022, let alone a US Senator.

It’s sadly imaginable that it likely won’t impact him at all.
Sounds like he realized he screwed up, and is walking it back and doing as much CYA damage control as possible...

Seems the line of questioning had him "confused"...

"Earlier during a virtual press conference I misunderstood a line of questioning that ended up being about interracial marriage, and let me be clear on that issue — there is no question the Constitution prohibits discrimination of any kind based on race. That is not something that is even up for debate, and I condemn racism in any form, at all levels and by any states, entities, or individuals,” Braun said.

It's an admirable attempt, but he sort of misses the point that marriage should not be restricted by law, irrespective of racism.
 
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No way under the minimum guidelines, which are harsh. If the guy was convicted he'll be on the registry forever too. We have buildings downtown where more than half the residents are registered. Nasty

For the life of me I do not understand how the whole idea of "registered sex offender" and everything it entails stands up. You do your time, but then have your freedom restricted further, and for life? Conditions of probation are one thing, but this is a completely different animal.
 
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For the life of me I do not understand how the whole idea of "registered sex offender" and everything it entails stands up. You do your time, but then have your freedom restricted further, and for life? Conditions of probation are one thing, but this is a completely different animal.
Yeah there's an ocean of case law on it. I think it's even gone before the S. Ct.
 
Sasse and Kennedy were interesting to watch. They were the only ones I've seen who seem to actually take the job of interrogating the nominee on her approach to the law seriously.

Blackburn coming up next. That should end the evening with some comedy.
 
I know, I know. I still don't get it. It just seems so opposed to our system of justice.
Oh you have no idea. There's so much f*cked up shit with it. It's been a while but they were making people who took an SIS register. How insane is that
 
For the life of me I do not understand how the whole idea of "registered sex offender" and everything it entails stands up. You do your time, but then have your freedom restricted further, and for life? Conditions of probation are one thing, but this is a completely different animal.
Precisely. Animal.
 
For the life of me I do not understand how the whole idea of "registered sex offender" and everything it entails stands up. You do your time, but then have your freedom restricted further, and for life? Conditions of probation are one thing, but this is a completely different animal.
So if you are of the mind that is sexually attracted to kids, and not able to repress that proclivity, do you think that spending some time in jail can rehabilitate you? Suddenly make the urges go away. Or do they remain in place?
I'm just spit ballin here, but I would think this has something to do with the registration.
If you join a gang and sell drugs.. You can be taught other means of living. Rob a bank, you can run for public office. But having your wires crossed, is probably permanent.
 
Sorry. It's a suspended imposition of sentence. It's not a conviction. So you have worked out a deal to where you aren't convicted yet probation can still require you to register
Learned something and no longer feel the need to apologize for being stupid. I had even checked the acronym list. 😂
 
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So if you are of the mind that is sexually attracted to kids, and not able to repress that proclivity, do you think that spending some time in jail can rehabilitate you? Suddenly make the urges go away. Or do they remain in place?
I'm just spit ballin here, but I would think this has something to do with the registration.
If you join a gang and sell drugs.. You can be taught other means of living. Rob a bank, you can run for public office. But having your wires crossed, is probably permanent.
Why not do it with psychopaths/sociopaths too should a court ordered evaluation deem them so inclined? I'm not overly familiar but assuming you committed only a misdemeanor but are definitely a psychopath, you can still buy a gun right?

Like you, just kinda spit ball rolling along here. Stream of consciousness like.
 
Why not do it with psychopaths/sociopaths too should a court ordered evaluation deem them so inclined? I'm not overly familiar but assuming you committed only a misdemeanor but are definitely a psychopath, you can still buy a gun right?

Like you, just kinda spit ball rolling along here. Stream of consciousness like.
Depends. You can't buy a gun if you have a restraining order entered against you
 
So if you are of the mind that is sexually attracted to kids, and not able to repress that proclivity, do you think that spending some time in jail can rehabilitate you? Suddenly make the urges go away. Or do they remain in place?
I'm just spit ballin here, but I would think this has something to do with the registration.
If you join a gang and sell drugs.. You can be taught other means of living. Rob a bank, you can run for public office. But having your wires crossed, is probably permanent.

The idea about sex registration is to protect the public from the violator and allow the public to know where they are. If you're going to do it, fine, but do it for all felons, not just sex offenders. I want to know if a batterer or a car thief or a meth dealer or an insurance fraudster move in next door as much as a peeping Tom.
 
The idea about sex registration is to protect the public from the violator and allow the public to know where they are. If you're going to do it, fine, but do it for all felons, not just sex offenders. I want to know if a batterer or a car thief or a meth dealer or an insurance fraudster move in next door as much as a peeping Tom.
Not the same thing or even close to it
 
Depends. You can't buy a gun if you have a restraining order entered against you
Sure but let's say a guy/gal is engaged in some weird ass crime that isn't a felony but which points to them being a bit off. They are required to take a psych exam and the Doc is like "this dude/dudette is Dahmer/Casey Anthony level psycho".

I think that person could still pass a background check to buy a gun.

I was reading the other day about the Germanwings pilot that flew the plane into a mountain. He was nuts. Absolutely and without equivocation. And his doctors knew it. Problem was German laws prevented his employer (an airline obvs) from getting a hold of this information. Less than a year later, flies plane into a mountain.

I guess it's a hot button topic, the intersection of privacy and public safety.
 
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Sasse and Kennedy were interesting to watch. They were the only ones I've seen who seem to actually take the job of interrogating the nominee on her approach to the law seriously.

Blackburn coming up next. That should end the evening with some comedy.

Blackburn never disappoints. Beating up Jackson for Roe. Jackson looking at her like WTF???

Does anyone remember like 30 years ago when Blackburn was a babe?
 
I guess the parts I dont get are things like a guy taking a piss outside with a buzz on being equated to people with child porn or caught in the act which I cant really fathom. Dude gets drunk and has to piss at 3 am likely isnt a threat to children.
I guess when you work outside and are on the go there are just times. My best story , I always found places and looked around and sexual deviency was the last thing on my mind. I think that whole thing is crazy. So one day I am admitted hungover working on a job in the boonies in October. Huge cornfield across the road. Always packing a roll of TP in my truck and I am out just taking a horrid sh*t , I jumped sideways so it didnt pile up on my shoes. I am in agony and I hear this noise.............Its a cornpicker and gearing down . Oh shit it turns in to the field and There I am running out with my roll of TP! My point and maybe laws have changed but heard of people being listed as sexual predators for things. I guarantee the last thing on my mind was anything about sex even with my pants down.
 
Blackburn never disappoints. Beating up Jackson for Roe. Jackson looking at her like WTF???

Does anyone remember like 30 years ago when Blackburn was a babe?
30 yrs ago, hell!!

But then again, I've been away from the wife for a while.. 😁
 
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