Ivermectin: wonder drug.

[HillzHoozier]

I have to laugh. How many patients died at the altar of social media and political bias?

Please don't take Dr. Campbell's word for it. Read the studies. SPOILER: IVERMECTIN provided SEVENTY PERCENT REDUCTION IN MORTALITY VS. REMDESIVIR.

Second study showed using Ivermectin cut infection rates in half.

Anyone who has dismissed Ivermectin as a "horse dewormer" has blood on their hands.

(**Ivermectin is a Nobel-prize winning anti-parasitical drug, required to be given to immigrants coming into the U.S. from many countries. It has also been used to control parastes in livestock.)

 

[outside shooter]

no link

no support

It failed every double blinded clinical trial. We've discussed ad nauseum.

The Earth is not flat, either.

(edit: It looks like you added the video to the UK youtube might-be-a-nurse. Good job!)

 

[HillzHoozier]

no link

no support

It failed every double blinded clinical trial. We've discussed ad nauseum.

The Earth is not flat, either.

The links to the peer-reviewed studies are in the videos. How many people have your "opinions" killed?

 

[HillzHoozier]

Likely not nearly as many as Trump and his ilk for convincing his true believers that Covid is fake.

If I were goat I'd delete your post.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

The links to the peer-reviewed studies are in the videos. How many people have your "opinions" killed?

how many people have anti-maskers/anti-vacciners killed?

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

If I were goat I'd delete your post.

And how is her response any worse than your thread?

So we can all be glad you aren't goat.

 

[HillzHoozier]

how many people have anti-maskers/anti-vacciners killed?

The topic is Ivermectin.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

The topic is Ivermectin.

No, the topic is you posting bogus crap and trying to say people against horse dewormer killed people. Ivermectin was just the vehicle for your bs.

 

[HillzHoozier]

no link

no support

It failed every double blinded clinical trial. We've discussed ad nauseum.

The Earth is not flat, either.

My mistake for not linking the video. Fixed now. Watch it and read the studies linked therein.

I get emotional about this topic. The people who made the decisions regarding covid policy, which turned the world upside down, were the least-affected by those policies. Eschewing Ivermectin use as a possible tool against the pandemic is nothing short of scandalous and probably criminal.

 

[HillzHoozier]

No, the topic is you posting bogus crap and trying to say people against horse dewormer killed people. Ivermectin was just the vehicle for your bs.

I know you don't read, so watch the video. It's just like tv.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

I know you don't read, so watch the video. It's just like tv.

Says the person that couldn't grasp the need for vaccine and masks despite all the articles and videos showing that they worked.

 

[HillzHoozier]

Says the person that couldn't grasp the need for vaccine and masks despite all the articles and videos showing that they worked.

It was the mandates, Forrest.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

It was the mandates, Forrest.

lol, like wearing a seatbelt, not drinking and driving...

It isn't the first mandate and won't be the last. Maybe if people weren't dumb, they wouldn't have to mandate

 

[HillzHoozier]

lol, like wearing a seatbelt, not drinking and driving...

It isn't the first mandate and won't be the last. Maybe if people weren't dumb, they wouldn't have to mandate

Thanks for ruining the forum.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

Thanks for ruining the forum.

Says the person that thought posting that people against ivermectin were killing people.

Get a good mirror. you need it.

 

[Lucy01]

Thanks for ruining the forum.

You know Hickory is Zeke don’t you?

 

[HillzHoozier]

You know Hickory is Zeke don’t you?

I would be shocked if that were true.

 

[Lucy01]

I would be shocked if that were true.

Nothing shocks me, I am listening to Biden lie through his teeth.

 

[Harry Hondo]

The links to the peer-reviewed studies are in the videos. How many people have your "opinions" killed?

The opinions were to get vaccinated. The people using ivermectin were doing so in place of vaccination, so unless you can show that ivermectin was 90+% effective you're just being a political fool.

 

[zeke4ahs]

If I were goat I'd delete your post.

So it’s ok for you to imply that a fellow poster and his opinions have killed people, but it’s not ok for me to state that the President of the US, who knowingly and admitted to lying to the American people has responsibility? Interesting take.

 

[Lucy01]

The opinions were to get vaccinated. The people using ivermectin were doing so in place of vaccination, so unless you can show that ivermectin was 90+% effective you're just being a political fool.

Were you ever infected with Covid?

 

[HillzHoozier]

So it’s ok for you to imply that a fellow poster and his opinions have killed people, but it’s not ok for me to state that the President of the US, who knowingly and admitted to lying to the American people has responsibility? Interesting take.

Wrong thread, wrong administration.

 

[HillzHoozier]

The opinions were to get vaccinated. The people using ivermectin were doing so in place of vaccination, so unless you can show that ivermectin was 90+% effective you're just being a political fool.

If you have any proof that vaccinations were 90+% effective, please link it.

 

[zeke4ahs]

Wrong thread, wrong administration.

No, sorry, it’s exactly the right thread and the right administration. The one who admitted he lied to keep the people calm, and millions of those same people took zero precautions. Some of their families afterwards even said they believed what Trump told them. Sorry.

 

[zeke4ahs]

If you have any proof that vaccinations were 90+% effective, please link it.

In keeping people from dying? I think that’s pretty easy to find.

 

[HillzHoozier]

The one who admitted he lied to keep the people calm

This thread isn't about Fauci, either, although he played a significant role in restricting how doctors can treat their patients.

 

[Lucy01]

In keeping people from dying? I think that’s pretty easy to find.

If it’s so easy to find,we’re waiting on you to show proof.

 

[HillzHoozier]

In keeping people from dying? I think that’s pretty easy to find.

I showed you mine. Your turn. Remember, the claim was that vaccines have 90+% efficacy.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

No, sorry, it’s exactly the right thread and the right administration. The one who admitted he lied to keep the people calm, and millions of those same people took zero precautions. Some of their families afterwards even said they believed what Trump told them. Sorry.

86% against death. "The investigators used the US Department of Veteran Affairs health care system data for this study, due to its inclusion of a large population of older adults with comorbidities." So that's 86% of people older and with comorbidities.

https://www.contagionlive.com/view/...-infection-or-death-in-an-at-risk-study-group`

mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine Efficacy Against Infection or Death in an At-Risk Study Group

A study of mRNA vaccination in older people and people with comorbidities found vaccine efficacy of 69% against COVID-19 infection and 86% against death.

www.contagionlive.com

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

And how is her response any worse than your thread?

So we can all be glad you aren't goat.

I know I am.

 

[HillzHoozier]

86% against death. "The investigators used the US Department of Veteran Affairs health care system data for this study, due to its inclusion of a large population of older adults with comorbidities." So that's 86% of people older and with comorbidities.

https://www.contagionlive.com/view/...-infection-or-death-in-an-at-risk-study-group`

mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine Efficacy Against Infection or Death in an At-Risk Study Group

A study of mRNA vaccination in older people and people with comorbidities found vaccine efficacy of 69% against COVID-19 infection and 86% against death.

www.contagionlive.com

Thanks. I'm not trying to argue which was a better option between vaccines and Ivermectin. I'm simply saying it's use should not have been pilloried as it was and by evidence in this thread, still is.

I got my vaccine like a good boy, and I didn't use Ivermectin, but it was never an option for me. It may have kept me from getting covid though. Who could ever know? However, the reason it wasn't offered is probably political. Horse dewormer.

I'm highly allergic to poison ivy. I had a bad case one summer and went to see the doctor to get a shot. I was denied because the doctor deemed my case wasn't severe enough. So I fell back on an old home remedy of a tincture made of white vinegar and saltwater. White vinegar (acetic acid) can also be used as a household cleaner. Isn't it crazy how household cleaner also works to cure poison ivy?

 

[Noodle]

Thanks. I'm not trying to argue which was a better option between vaccines and Ivermectin. I'm simply saying it's use should not have been pilloried as it was and by evidence in this thread, still is.

I got my vaccine like a good boy, and I didn't use Ivermectin, but it was never an option for me. It may have kept me from getting covid though. Who could ever know? However, the reason it wasn't offered is probably political. Horse dewormer.

I'm highly allergic to poison ivy. I had a bad case one summer and went to see the doctor to get a shot. I was denied because the doctor deemed my case wasn't severe enough. So I fell back on an old home remedy of a tincture made of white vinegar and saltwater. White vinegar (acetic acid) can also be used as a household cleaner. Isn't it crazy how household cleaner also works to cure poison ivy?

Oatmeal also helps for poison ivy. Of course neither vinegar nor oatmeal is "curing" anything. They just help to alleviate some of the symptoms of your allergic reaction. And yes, white vinegar can be used as a household cleaner, same as Coca Cola, Pepsi, grain alcohol, vodka, club soda, and plain old water. In fact, grain alcohol would also likely give you the same kind of relief you got with vinegar, though you probably should dilute it a bit first. And supposedly apple cider vinegar works better than white vinegar. Hell, lots of people regularly drink Bragg's apple cider vinegar

 

[cosmickid]

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I have to laugh. How many patients died at the altar of social media and political bias?

Please don't take Dr. Campbell's word for it. Read the studies. SPOILER: IVERMECTIN provided SEVENTY PERCENT REDUCTION IN MORTALITY VS. REMDESIVIR.

Second study showed using Ivermectin cut infection rates in half.

Anyone who has dismissed Ivermectin as a "horse dewormer" has blood on their hands.

(**Ivermectin is a Nobel-prize winning anti-parasitical drug, required to be given to immigrants coming into the U.S. from many countries. It has also been used to control parastes in livestock.)

Maybe you can provide the cliff notes, particularly with his take on Brazil? I started watching this before you posted, but I couldn't get thru it because I find this guy particularly annoying...

So I saw Brazil mentioned in the thumbnail when I came upon the video yesterday. I started watching, but this guy's style drives me batty and I couldn't get thru it.

I suppose he is discussing some sort of study in Brazil, but I'm curious how does he square that with practical applications in Brazil thruout 2020, and most of 2021 when Ivermectin was basically given to everyone, and the only positive was that Brazil only had the second highest death rate behind only the US? Why didn't the results of this study manifest in the practical application of Ivermectin and Hydrox in Brazil- does he explain that?

From the British Medical Journal (BMJ) Oct 2021 in an article discussing the Brazilian Senate's recommendations that Bolsonaro should be charged with "crimes against humanity".

"Brazil has reported 604 303 deaths from covid-19, and has one of the world’s worst proportional tolls, with 2817 lives reported lost to the virus per million population. “In spite of all the vaccines that were on offer, the federal government opted not to buy them,” the report said. Several officials are also accused in the report of demanding bribes during negotiations with vaccine makers.

It took seven months after Pfizer offered vaccines to Brazil for the government to sign a deal, having left one offer from the company unanswered for two months, the inquiry heard. During this time Bolsonaro warned Brazilians on television that Pfizer’s proposed contract would give them no legal recourse if the vaccine changed them into alligators or made women grow beards."

Covid-19: Bolsonaro should face criminal charges over Brazil’s failed response, recommends inquiry

A Brazilian Senate inquiry into the pandemic has recommended charging the country’s far right president Jair Bolsonaro with nine crimes, including crimes against humanity, for his role in the country’s ineffectual response. The commission’s report also recommended charges against 65 other...

www.bmj.com

If Ivermectin is a "wonder drug" why didn't it work in Brazil where it was basically distributed like candy?

"The report also recommended charging the president and several others with “charlatanism,” the promotion of false cures. Also accused in the report are two doctors close to Bolsonaro: oncologist Nise Yamaguchi and virologist Paolo Zanotto, both vocal champions of hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. Both attended meetings with the president at which they cautioned against a vaccine based strategy, the report found. At one meeting, the commission heard, they urged the director of Brazil’s drug regulator to accept a presidential decree changing the package insert of hydroxychloroquine to claim that it could treat covid."

 

[Noodle]

Thanks. I'm not trying to argue which was a better option between vaccines and Ivermectin. I'm simply saying it's use should not have been pilloried as it was and by evidence in this thread, still is.

I got my vaccine like a good boy, and I didn't use Ivermectin, but it was never an option for me. It may have kept me from getting covid though. Who could ever know? However, the reason it wasn't offered is probably political. Horse dewormer.

I'm highly allergic to poison ivy. I had a bad case one summer and went to see the doctor to get a shot. I was denied because the doctor deemed my case wasn't severe enough. So I fell back on an old home remedy of a tincture made of white vinegar and saltwater. White vinegar (acetic acid) can also be used as a household cleaner. Isn't it crazy how household cleaner also works to cure poison ivy?

One other thing. If you are ever worried about coming into contact with poison ivy while doing yard work, hiking, etc., there are some barrier creams that help. Years ago a client sold some colloidal oatmeal-based barrier creams that worked great for me (I'm not allergic to poison ivy but my hop bines can really do a number on me). I still have a few bottles around and I use it whenever I'm messing with the hops. It can also make cleaning up really easy, as it keeps dirt, oils, etc. from penetrating.

 

[cosmickid]

The opinions were to get vaccinated. The people using ivermectin were doing so in place of vaccination, so unless you can show that ivermectin was 90+% effective you're just being a political fool.

The scenario you describe people using wonder drugs like Ivermectin and hydroxy in lieu of vaccines was official govt policy in Brazil. The Brazilian Senate didn't launch and investigation into Bolsonaro for "crimes against humanity" because his reported use of indigenous people and peasants as his guinea pigs in his "no vaccine policy" was effective at saving lives...

If Ivermectin was a "miracle drug" Brazil would be a beacon of covid prevention and Bolsonaro would be one of the more popular rulers in the world. Instead he's facing serious charges and possibly prison time...

 

[iuwclurker]

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I have to laugh. How many patients died at the altar of social media and political bias?

Please don't take Dr. Campbell's word for it. Read the studies. SPOILER: IVERMECTIN provided SEVENTY PERCENT REDUCTION IN MORTALITY VS. REMDESIVIR.

Second study showed using Ivermectin cut infection rates in half.

Anyone who has dismissed Ivermectin as a "horse dewormer" has blood on their hands.

(**Ivermectin is a Nobel-prize winning anti-parasitical drug, required to be given to immigrants coming into the U.S. from many countries. It has also been used to control parastes in livestock.)

Can we give ivermectin to the water cooler to remove its parasites?

 

[outside shooter]

The links to the peer-reviewed studies are in the videos. How many people have your "opinions" killed?

Zero. Don't rely on opinions. Rely on DATA with proper controls, statistics, sample size, etc.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

Thanks. I'm not trying to argue which was a better option between vaccines and Ivermectin. I'm simply saying it's use should not have been pilloried as it was and by evidence in this thread, still is.

I got my vaccine like a good boy, and I didn't use Ivermectin, but it was never an option for me. It may have kept me from getting covid though. Who could ever know? However, the reason it wasn't offered is probably political. Horse dewormer.

I'm highly allergic to poison ivy. I had a bad case one summer and went to see the doctor to get a shot. I was denied because the doctor deemed my case wasn't severe enough. So I fell back on an old home remedy of a tincture made of white vinegar and saltwater. White vinegar (acetic acid) can also be used as a household cleaner. Isn't it crazy how household cleaner also works to cure poison ivy?

The reason it wasn't pushed was because it wasn't effective with covid, whereas the vaccine was effective. Why take something that is not scientifically proven to help when there is something that does help? Lacks sense.

IMO, people ran to ivermectin because of either being anti-vaccine in general or to make a political statement.

 

[HillzHoozier]

The reason it wasn't pushed was because it wasn't effective with covid, whereas the vaccine was effective. Why take something that is not scientifically proven to help when there is something that does help? Lacks sense.

IMO, people ran to ivermectin because of either being anti-vaccine in general or to make a political statement.

My point is what is between my doctor and I is none of anyone else's business... always has been that way until covid.

 

[HillzHoozier]

Maybe you can provide the cliff notes, particularly with his take on Brazil? I started watching this before you posted, but I couldn't get thru it because I find this guy particularly annoying...

So I saw Brazil mentioned in the thumbnail when I came upon the video yesterday. I started watching, but this guy's style drives me batty and I couldn't get thru it.

I suppose he is discussing some sort of study in Brazil, but I'm curious how does he square that with practical applications in Brazil thruout 2020, and most of 2021 when Ivermectin was basically given to everyone, and the only positive was that Brazil only had the second highest death rate behind only the US? Why didn't the results of this study manifest in the practical application of Ivermectin and Hydrox in Brazil- does he explain that?

From the British Medical Journal (BMJ) Oct 2021 in an article discussing the Brazilian Senate's recommendations that Bolsonaro should be charged with "crimes against humanity".

"Brazil has reported 604 303 deaths from covid-19, and has one of the world’s worst proportional tolls, with 2817 lives reported lost to the virus per million population. “In spite of all the vaccines that were on offer, the federal government opted not to buy them,” the report said. Several officials are also accused in the report of demanding bribes during negotiations with vaccine makers.

It took seven months after Pfizer offered vaccines to Brazil for the government to sign a deal, having left one offer from the company unanswered for two months, the inquiry heard. During this time Bolsonaro warned Brazilians on television that Pfizer’s proposed contract would give them no legal recourse if the vaccine changed them into alligators or made women grow beards."

Covid-19: Bolsonaro should face criminal charges over Brazil’s failed response, recommends inquiry

A Brazilian Senate inquiry into the pandemic has recommended charging the country’s far right president Jair Bolsonaro with nine crimes, including crimes against humanity, for his role in the country’s ineffectual response. The commission’s report also recommended charges against 65 other...

www.bmj.com

If Ivermectin is a "wonder drug" why didn't it work in Brazil where it was basically distributed like candy?

"The report also recommended charging the president and several others with “charlatanism,” the promotion of false cures. Also accused in the report are two doctors close to Bolsonaro: oncologist Nise Yamaguchi and virologist Paolo Zanotto, both vocal champions of hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. Both attended meetings with the president at which they cautioned against a vaccine based strategy, the report found. At one meeting, the commission heard, they urged the director of Brazil’s drug regulator to accept a presidential decree changing the package insert of hydroxychloroquine to claim that it could treat covid."

The data used in the second study cited in the linked video came from patients in Brazil. The paper is peer-reviewed. Ivermectin users were 70% less likely to die and half as likely to be infected. Read the study if you have questions.