Saw on the socials that the IU-VA for '27 & '28 has been cancelled. It was a Herald Times article so I couldn't read it, but does anyone have any idea why this would be cancelled or who we might replace the game with? Not that VA is a great program, but at least they're a P4 opponent and not another ISU or W. IL type team.
IU - Virginia Home & Home Cancelled
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According to HT the BIG requirement to play power 4 non-conf opponent has been eliminated.
Fine by me, not much upside in that game — either a “meh” win or a bad loss.
I’ve read that a B1G-SEC challenge may start at some point. That would be fun.
I’ve read that a B1G-SEC challenge may start at some point. That would be fun.
I hope the two game series with Notre Dame doesn't get cancelled.
The good news there, is that ND wouldn't really have a good reason to cancel it. So if it is ever canceled, it would be due to IU wanting out. I trust Cig and Dolson to do what is best for IU. #InCigWeTrust
The hold up is the SEC won’t go to 9 games. B1G is saying FU.
I hope not either but I bet it does. Zero incentive to play that game.
The whole sport is going to change in the next 12-24 months with the CFP being redone.
Good. The SEC just wants to pad their records. Like they always have.
They have ESPN in their pockets, so why not?
Well the VA Home game date will be Kennesaw State. So not a FCS team…Also not a P4 team either.
Seems odd.
Coach Cignetti and IU football could whip these guys in their sleep.
Wonder if it was a money split thing or something Virginia was pushing for so we capitulated because of overriding factors like the potential B1G v SEC challenge.
Coach Cignetti and IU football could whip these guys in their sleep.
Wonder if it was a money split thing or something Virginia was pushing for so we capitulated because of overriding factors like the potential B1G v SEC challenge.
If BSPN gives the SEC the same type of production they did with the NBA Finals, the BIG will be the more dominant conference once again!
... Pad their records just like some small breasted women.
I thought the cancellation was to secure another non-con home game. I believe IU wants 3 non-con home games every year.
Dang. I really liked the idea of the game to keep up Cig and staff's recruiting ties out there. They recruited the area before. Show players about Indiana. Get on the area news.
The area news and 3⭐️+ athletes aren’t in the same universe
Do you have season tickets? Personally, I’m sick of playing dog shit teams the entirety of August. Big time programs don’t do shit like this. It’s Virginia for crying out loud. If this was a 1-2 year trend, fine. But it’s not. It’s who we are and the brand suffers from it.
Bull shit. Find me an SEC that hasn’t or won’t have played any power 5 program from 2020-2030
Big time programs do this ALL the time. The brand does. It suffer from it. How many bowls has IU missed out bc they played stupid Non-con games. A lot
Which BigTime programs have cancelled every game against a P5 school over a decade? We have literally no one scheduled. It’s ridiculous.
Check out Michigan 2023, OSU last year, UCLA got out of a game or two. Big Ten teams, especially teams like IU, lost a ton of scheduling flexibility when they stupidly went to 9 games.
You’re cherry picking one season from those schools. We aren’t playing anyone with a pulse over a 10 year period.
You have 9 P4 games. In the last 15 years IU has played a good wake forest team (2016), a top 15 Mizzou team 2x, navy 2x. Virginia 2x (both bowl teams), Louisville, Cincinnati 2x…there’s zero point in scheduling a top non conference opponent, none. Your P4 non-conference game is the 9th big ten game.
What does IU gain playing Louisville or any other P4 non conference game?
IU went from off the radar to a 10-seed (8th rank) in the CFP and didn’t play anyone in the noncon. There is no benefit.
Spot on.
At the end of the day we've got nine games every year in one of the two mega conferences. Most years we're going to have a lot of interesting, difficult to very difficult games. What IU is doing scheduling wise is very typical for the current playoff/bowl format as you pointed out. Frankly it's a bit annoying that after 10 years in the brutal Big 10 East playing annual games vs. OSU/UM/PSU (three likely losses), the moment we get out of that division we all of a sudden get all this shit about our schedule. Give me a break.
That said, I hope we can keep the ND home/home and periodically have a home/home with with a big program where a loss doesn't hurt too badly. However, I get these games are hard to schedule (What's in it for the big program? Not much if anything.) and it still doesn't really help us like you said. Perhaps the only hope for consistent P4 non-cons is that B1G-SEC challenge if it ever happens.
As for our brand, the impact of not playing Virginia is very minimal. No one cares. What obviously matters is how we perform on the field in the key games vs. Illinois, Iowa, Oregon, and PSU, plus not tripping up in the other five conference games, some of which are not gimmies either. What matters are things like if Big Noon comes to town for the Illinois game and showcases IUFB for two hours to a national audience. Big picture cancelling this UVA series is a nothing-burger.
Sorry if I came off as harsh, but this is one of the few hills I will die on.
As Mark Twain said, “The report of my death is greatly exaggerated.”
Here's an article that speaks to the topic:
www.thedailyhoosier.com
As things stand, IU football is right to avoid Power 4 teams in nonconference schedule
For the second time in two years, IU football has cancelled a future nonconference series with a Power 4 opponent. Two years ago Tom Allen’s Hoosiers bought their way out of a home-and-home s…
www.thedailyhoosier.com
But there's the idea that fans enjoy football, and it's more enjoyable when the opponent isn't totally over-matched. That's what posters making the argument are saying. They are spending good money, they want to see a real game.
Maybe some like blowouts. I like interesting games and I don't sit there fretting about losing. It's a good game, go win it and get more accolades.
I don't see the joy in playing too tough of an opponent, though... Such as Notre Dame, or some SEC team. Virginia? Louisville? Sure. If you win those moderately tough games it can help make a good year or bowl even if you slip up in a B1G Ten game you should've won. If you slip in a tough game and went 4-0 against sisters of the poor? That's not anything that helps you recover.
But, the committee still has input right? If so, schedule cupcakes, stay as healthy as possible. Committee doesn't seem to mind cupcakes as long as the rest of the schedule is OK. One cupcake would be best to be late in the B!G season, for recovery though, if they allow it.
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Maybe some like blowouts. I like interesting games and I don't sit there fretting about losing. It's a good game, go win it and get more accolades.
I don't see the joy in playing too tough of an opponent, though... Such as Notre Dame, or some SEC team. Virginia? Louisville? Sure. If you win those moderately tough games it can help make a good year or bowl even if you slip up in a B1G Ten game you should've won. If you slip in a tough game and went 4-0 against sisters of the poor? That's not anything that helps you recover.
But, the committee still has input right? If so, schedule cupcakes, stay as healthy as possible. Committee doesn't seem to mind cupcakes as long as the rest of the schedule is OK. One cupcake would be best to be late in the B!G season, for recovery though, if they allow it.
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For Indiana yet the concern is the already 9 physical, rough Big Ten games that we play, we'll need to limit injuries to our front starters as best we can. Obviously, another tough opponent just adds to the wear & tear as the season progresses. Coach Cignetti, knows how tough the players have it, thus cancelling Louisville/UVA
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From a purchase standpoint for season ticket holders I understand the issue of the football season not starting until Conference games. I get it. But the B10 has an imbalance issue with the SEC (9 games vs 8). So until that gets rectified I don’t see a reason to put ourselves at a disadvantage. We have waited 30+ years for someone to care in the Administration and it seems strange to complain about something that helps us.
What the Admin should do is stop charging full price for non-conference games. Spread the lost revenue out over the B10 games for non season ticket holders (single game purchases). Right now I don’t see a discount on game price for buying season tickets other than from auction sites. The prices are going up if we keep winning. The admin should recognize this and take advantage of addressing it early so the fans will feel they are getting something for their purchases…
Basketball has gone through the same thing. I don’t even watch until December anymore. This year they have a few big games but that is from fan pressure I believe. I think changing the price for non-conference games is a good fix.
I get the cupcake home games would be more enjoyable/interesting if those were more competitive games against P4 teams.
But doing that would put IUFB at a meaningful disadvantage and hurt our postseason prospects — and that is not enjoyable at all.
But doing that would put IUFB at a meaningful disadvantage and hurt our postseason prospects — and that is not enjoyable at all.
Hide and watch. This will be the new norm until the acc and sec go to 9 games. Purdue, Wisconsin etc are stupid to keep playing p4 teams ooc. Especially the way they have been these last few years.
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