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Big Ten schools ranked academically by U.S. News for 2024
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To me, this is more disappointing than our decades of irrelevance in athletics.
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Ohio State and others have eclipsed iu undergrad. I remember in the 80s and 90s it was revered. Now it’s a safety school save the biz school![]()
Big Ten schools ranked academically by U.S. News for 2024
Ranking Big Ten schools by most recent academic supremacy!wolverineswire.usatoday.com
To me, this is more disappointing than our decades of irrelevance in athletics.
Meh, while it’s “not cool”, an overall ranking of a university is largely useless and very difficult to justify a methodology.![]()
Big Ten schools ranked academically by U.S. News for 2024
Ranking Big Ten schools by most recent academic supremacy!wolverineswire.usatoday.com
To me, this is more disappointing than our decades of irrelevance in athletics.
I disagree. People judge universities on job apps. It’s a proxy when you have hundreds or thousands to weed through.Meh, while it’s “not cool”, an overall ranking of a university is largely useless and very difficult to justify a methodology.
The schools within the university are what matters. As long as Kelley, Maurer and med school remain highly ranked it’s all that really matters.
Are you going to turn away a Kelley candidate because IU overall is on the decline?I disagree. People judge universities on job apps. It’s a proxy when you have hundreds or thousands to weed through.
IU’s 80+% admit rate is a joke. What are we, Central Florida?
There are other schools at IU. I don’t really care about Kelley.Are you going to turn away a Kelley candidate because IU overall is on the decline?
I suspect people who hire for corporations know Kelley's rank better than they know IU's. Same for medicine, and music.Are you going to turn away a Kelley candidate because IU overall is on the decline?
Well I disagree - pretty vehemently. There are numerous reasons for a really smart kid to go to IU over those you mentioned. Cost being a major factor.There are other schools at IU. I don’t really care about Kelley.
And if I’m hiring a BA/BS, yeah I’m going to think the kid from NW, UCLA, Michigan etc is likely to be smarter overall.
I just looked it up. There are 14,000 kids going to Kelley. That’s wild. Are you going to let your kids major in whatever they want? Poly sci? Art? Lit?There are other schools at IU. I don’t really care about Kelley.
And if I’m hiring a BA/BS, yeah I’m going to think the kid from NW, UCLA, Michigan etc is likely to be smarter overall.
Yes.I just looked it up. There are 14,000 kids going to Kelley. That’s wild. Are you going to let your kids major in whatever they want? Poly sci? Art? Lit?
What? Why not?I don’t really care about Kelley.
I’d strongly suggest economics over those others.Yes.
They'll be paying for it. Or a scholarship will. I'd like them both to double major or minor in at least one humanity like philosophy, history, classics, or economics. I'll discourage them from any woowoo subjects like women's studies, English lit (as it's taught today), etc. I'd hope neither chooses to major in business and hopefully will major in math or a hard science.
What does they’ll be paying for it mean? You counting on schollies? I have no doubt my daughter will get accepted to FSU/mizzou/iu type and won’t get a scholarship or any money. . I’ll have to payYes.
They'll be paying for it. Or a scholarship will. I'd like them both to double major or minor in at least one humanity like philosophy, history, classics, or economics. I'll discourage them from any woowoo subjects like women's studies, English lit (as it's taught today), etc. I'd hope neither chooses to major in business and hopefully will major in math or a hard science.
IU is even lower on the Best Value Schools (#165).Well I disagree - pretty vehemently. There are numerous reasons for a really smart kid to go to IU over those you mentioned. Cost being a major factor.
Ummm….news alert 🚨 I graduated from there. What did you expect? Any respectable institution would have said hell no when I applied.![]()
Big Ten schools ranked academically by U.S. News for 2024
Ranking Big Ten schools by most recent academic supremacy!wolverineswire.usatoday.com
To me, this is more disappointing than our decades of irrelevance in athletics.
Leave his daughter alone. She’s a Bitcoiner.I’d strongly suggest economics over those others.
It means it's on them.What does they’ll be paying for it mean? You counting on schollies? I have no doubt my daughter will get accepted to FSU/mizzou/iu type and won’t get a scholarship or any money. . I’ll have to pay
I don't consider "business" an academic subject that should be taught undergraduates at a university.What? Why not?
Kelley is the school that's producing future business leaders who grow their companies and help to create jobs.
My oldest kid is a Kelley grad and has had a quick and meteoric rise to VP of Finance for a healthcare organization. My niece is graduating next month with a Kelley degree and got a Wall Street offer last September. She's had a fun senior year with a great job lined up months ago.
Don’t like it either. IU business school was top 5 when I graduated. Interesting that OSU has moved up solidly. They were making a big push for that when I was teaching there.![]()
Big Ten schools ranked academically by U.S. News for 2024
Ranking Big Ten schools by most recent academic supremacy!wolverineswire.usatoday.com
To me, this is more disappointing than our decades of irrelevance in athletics.
Well, I think it’s a great undergraduate degree. Why don’t you?I don't consider "business" an academic subject that should be taught undergraduates at a university.
I know I'm in the minority. Not looking to fight. I'm happy your family is doing so well.
Exactly.I suspect people who hire for corporations know Kelley's rank better than they know IU's. Same for medicine, and music.
I felt that way for quite some time as well. That it should be for edification not vocational. A broader education. Enrichment. But the cost has made me reconsider that and so too has my own career. I’m blessed to have six (was seven) very close friends from law school. We literally group text every day. One practices law. That’s it. All of us do other shit. And I wish I would have had business and finance and accounting and economics in my background instead of poly sci, public policy/admin. Real world stuff. The humanities stuff you can learn on your own today.I don't consider "business" an academic subject that should be taught undergraduates at a university.
I know I'm in the minority. Not looking to fight. I'm happy your family is doing so well.
Didn't mean to come across as boastful. We have our issues just like every other family. But it's clear to me that Kelley is very highly regarded and opens doors.I don't consider "business" an academic subject that should be taught undergraduates at a university.
I know I'm in the minority. Not looking to fight. I'm happy your family is doing so well.
It’s very simple. If you’re an Indiana kid it will cost $50k+ to go to any of those schools you mentioned. I’m not talking about metrics. I’m talking about real dollars and cents.IU is even lower on the Best Value Schools (#165).
The 11 Florida publics are $6k and change for residents. Pretty amazingIt’s very simple. If you’re an Indiana kid it will cost $50k+ to go to any of those schools you mentioned. I’m not talking about metrics. I’m talking about real dollars and cents.
For me, I don't think business majors are taught to value or find knowledge, truth, or the good life. I also don't think business subjects are good at teaching students how to challenge themselves and expand their thought and sense of being. And quite frankly, I don't think most business majors learn very much while in college. There's a reason many (most?) elite schools don't offer undergraduate degrees in business.Well, I think it’s a great undergraduate degree. Why don’t you?
You can learn the business stuff on your own. It's not difficult.I felt that way for quite some time as well. That it should be for edification not vocational. A broader education. Enrichment. But the cost has made me reconsider that and so too has my own career. I’m blessed to have six (was seven) very close friends from law school. We literally group text every day. One practices law. That’s it. All of us do other shit. And I wish I would have had business and finance and accounting and economics in my background instead of poly sci, public policy/admin. Real world stuff. The humanities stuff you can learn on your own today.
But you can’t get hired. Sorry, but you can’t work in finance, accounting, marketing etc without the undergrad degree. A full economics major maybe but now you’re splitting hairs over business vs Econ.You can learn the business stuff on your own. It's not difficult.
I love ya' RangerBoarder, but think you're wrong. Plenty of people don't major in biz as an undergrad and go onto work great jobs within business. Harvard, Yale, Princeton etc. don't even offer undergrad business degrees. They all unemployable? You don't think a math major has a shot at a finance job? Plus, if you want, you can (and probably should, nowadays) get an MBA. Here's one article of many on this subject:But you can’t get hired. Sorry, but you can’t work in finance, accounting, marketing etc without the undergrad degree. A full economics major maybe but now you’re splitting hairs over business vs Econ.
I feel like you’re wrong brother but I don’t know. @BadWakeboarder how do you get in at these big companies today without a biz related degree? Do they interview poly sci/history majors? I feel like recruiting prevents that. Again I don’t knowI love ya' RangerBoarder, but think you're wrong. Plenty of people don't major in biz as an undergrad and go onto work great jobs within business. Harvard, Yale, Princeton etc. don't even offer undergrad business degrees. They all unemployable? You don't think a math major has a shot at a finance job? Plus, if you want, you can (and probably should, nowadays) get an MBA. Here's one article of many on this subject:
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And the differrence between econ and business is not splitting hairs.
I’m talking about that first job. Who is hiring a Northwestern humanities major into a finance role?I love ya' RangerBoarder, but think you're wrong. Plenty of people don't major in biz as an undergrad and go onto work great jobs within business. Harvard, Yale, Princeton etc. don't even offer undergrad business degrees. They all unemployable? You don't think a math major has a shot at a finance job? Plus, if you want, you can (and probably should, nowadays) get an MBA. Here's one article of many on this subject:
![]()
8 Reasons Not to Get a Business Degree
Want to major in business? Here are 8 great reasons why you should pick another degree.www.cbsnews.com
And the differrence between econ and business is not splitting hairs.
No - they don’t. I truly have no idea where Brad is coming from. Later in career the degree is less important - but an entry level job in business will absolutely require it.I feel like you’re wrong brother but I don’t know. @BadWakeboarder how do you get in at these big companies today without a biz related degree? Do they interview poly sci/history majors? I feel like recruiting prevents that. Again I don’t know
But I highly endorse an economics degree.No - they don’t. I truly have no idea where Brad is coming from. Later in career the degree is less important - but an entry level job in business will absolutely require it.
I just feel like unfortunately the cost involved has changed things to force education to be more results oriented. A quarter of a mil isn’t a joke. As well as home prices, insurance, daycare, etc. you have to make money today. SucksBut I highly endorse an economics degree.
Math, physics, and economics are all in the humanities.I’m talking about that first job. Who is hiring a Northwestern humanities major into a finance role?
The fact that the U of Illinois is ranked so high tells me that this is a bogus ranking.![]()
Big Ten schools ranked academically by U.S. News for 2024
Ranking Big Ten schools by most recent academic supremacy!wolverineswire.usatoday.com
To me, this is more disappointing than our decades of irrelevance in athletics.
How about a career as a CPA? They just seem so cool.Math, physics, and economics are all in the humanities.
And there are a lot more jobs than finance out there. I’d be very happy if neither of my kids went into finance.
We’ll inflate that away until a year of college=a 20 piece from Popeyes.I just feel like unfortunately the cost involved has changed things to force education to be more results oriented. A quarter of a mil isn’t a joke. As well as home prices, insurance, daycare, etc. you have to make money today. Sucks
No, I'd turn them away because they're so full of themselves.Are you going to turn away a Kelley candidate because IU overall is on the decline?