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All the bitching about the kids storming the court further validates that AH needs a real student section. Alums and non-IU alums who support the school/program are great. But our/their time has passed. The best college experience should be for the current students, not us.

IU has a great home court experience and provides a great fan experience, but it is the hostility provided by the current students that helps give AH a special edge. IU should have a contiguous student section near the court because it helps add to our home court advantage, AND the students deserve it. Some would counter that we already have a big student section in numbers. If it means reducing the number of student tickets, so be it.

Donors would still be able to get great seats a few rows higher up under this scenario. IU has a special tradition, but things are different now from the 200s, just as things were different then vs the 80s or the 60s.

I wish they had blown up AH when Glass had the chance to big a bigger, better AH. But now that the renovations preclude a new AH, work with AH's current footprint to create a better experience.

That means building a better student section. The current students deserve better.
 
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Exactly . . . the biggest donors. The argument that these "older" donors should gladly accept seats above the student section is a tough one. Now, if the athletic department wanted to offer discounted season tickets and/or some other reward/incentive for those donors, perhaps they might consider it.
 
In order to have a student section that encircles the court, a new stadium must be built.
 
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IUgradman said:
In order to have a student section that encircles the court, a new stadium must be built.
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Why? Give the students the bleachers in front of the wall and maybe the first 6 or so rows of the main sections. Couple that with the end bleachers and that encircles the floor.
 
DCGeneral said:
I guess I'm the only one who things we should have a better student section.
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F them, they come late, drunk, are disrespectful of fans and opponents, and I don't think they know anything, other than being good and disrespectful and drunk. We need an extented section of the areans dedicated to that shit? Maybe put it it on the roof so they can jump and let kids and long time fans watch bball without the disgustingness. I don't have kids, but if I did, I wouldn't want them to hear F' anybody at an IU baskeball game. They should sell the tickets to the people that actually care and pay, if they want money. Be the Yankees, not Purdue
 
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DCGeneral said:
All the bitching about the kids storming the court further validates that AH needs a real student section. Alums and non-IU alums who support the school/program are great. But our/their time has passed. The best college experience should be for the current students, not us.

IU has a great home court experience and provides a great fan experience, but it is the hostility provided by the current students that helps give AH a special edge. IU should have a contiguous student section near the court because it helps add to our home court advantage, AND the students deserve it. Some would counter that we already have a big student section in numbers. If it means reducing the number of student tickets, so be it.

Donors would still be able to get great seats a few rows higher up under this scenario. IU has a special tradition, but things are different now from the 200s, just as things were different then vs the 80s or the 60s.

I wish they had blown up AH when Glass had the chance to big a bigger, better AH. But now that the renovations preclude a new AH, work with AH's current footprint to create a better experience.

That means building a better student section. The current students deserve better.
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If the current students continue to show up and fill the seats I would agree they deserve better, but the students have continually left 1,500 seats open for the past five years of more.

My stance is still to sell 1,500 student seats to the general public. 7,000 is plenty and still the biggest student section in the country.
 
We have the loudest arena for big games but we could be louder with a huge student section. I mean duke does it with 6000 people imagine Simon rocking to huge student section plus 17,000+!!
 
They should get nothing and like it, it would be better to sell an environment remade to sell good basketball and not cheap beer
 
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F them, they come late, drunk, are disrespectful of fans and opponents, and I don't think they know anything, other than being good and disrespectful and drunk. We need an extented section of the areans dedicated to that shit? Maybe put it it on the roof so they can jump and let kids and long time fans watch bball without the disgustingness. I don't have kids, but if I did, I wouldn't want them to hear F' anybody at an IU baskeball game. They should sell the tickets to the people that actually care and pay, if they want money. Be the Yankees, not Purdue
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RIght? Who wants college students at college games. F them indeed!
 
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We have the loudest arena for big games but we could be louder with a huge student section. I mean duke does it with 6000 people imagine Simon rocking to huge student section plus 17,000+!!
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Cameron seats close to 10K
 
go_iu said:
F them, they come late, drunk, are disrespectful of fans and opponents, and I don't think they know anything, other than being good and disrespectful and drunk. We need an extented section of the areans dedicated to that shit? Maybe put it it on the roof so they can jump and let kids and long time fans watch bball without the disgustingness. I don't have kids, but if I did, I wouldn't want them to hear F' anybody at an IU baskeball game. They should sell the tickets to the people that actually care and pay, if they want money. Be the Yankees, not Purdue
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If it ain't broke don't fix it. IU has the loudest, most energetic non-student section in the country. The kids aren't owed good seats. I had plenty of balcony seats as a student and never missed a game.
 
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DCGeneral said:
All the bitching about the kids storming the court further validates that AH needs a real student section. Alums and non-IU alums who support the school/program are great. But our/their time has passed. The best college experience should be for the current students, not us.

IU has a great home court experience and provides a great fan experience, but it is the hostility provided by the current students that helps give AH a special edge. IU should have a contiguous student section near the court because it helps add to our home court advantage, AND the students deserve it. Some would counter that we already have a big student section in numbers. If it means reducing the number of student tickets, so be it.

Donors would still be able to get great seats a few rows higher up under this scenario. IU has a special tradition, but things are different now from the 200s, just as things were different then vs the 80s or the 60s.

I wish they had blown up AH when Glass had the chance to big a bigger, better AH. But now that the renovations preclude a new AH, work with AH's current footprint to create a better experience.

That means building a better student section. The current students deserve better.
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No. They're not entitled to all the best seats. They're kids. They need to work for it. Now get off my lawn.
 
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go_iu said:
F them, they come late, drunk, are disrespectful of fans and opponents, and I don't think they know anything, other than being good and disrespectful and drunk. We need an extented section of the areans dedicated to that shit? Maybe put it it on the roof so they can jump and let kids and long time fans watch bball without the disgustingness. I don't have kids, but if I did, I wouldn't want them to hear F' anybody at an IU baskeball game. They should sell the tickets to the people that actually care and pay, if they want money. Be the Yankees, not Purdue
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Because they are the CURRENT college kids and the team is representing the students. It is their time, not ours. We had our time. Why is that so hard to understand?
 
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DCGeneral said:
All the bitching about the kids storming the court further validates that AH needs a real student section. Alums and non-IU alums who support the school/program are great. But our/their time has passed. The best college experience should be for the current students, not us.

IU has a great home court experience and provides a great fan experience, but it is the hostility provided by the current students that helps give AH a special edge. IU should have a contiguous student section near the court because it helps add to our home court advantage, AND the students deserve it. Some would counter that we already have a big student section in numbers. If it means reducing the number of student tickets, so be it.

Donors would still be able to get great seats a few rows higher up under this scenario. IU has a special tradition, but things are different now from the 200s, just as things were different then vs the 80s or the 60s.

I wish they had blown up AH when Glass had the chance to big a bigger, better AH. But now that the renovations preclude a new AH, work with AH's current footprint to create a better experience.

That means building a better student section. The current students deserve better.
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being old is just so much better than being young.

obviously the young need more advantages to even things out with those lucky old people.
 
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They pay tuition, room and board. And a current student should get a better seat than a bluehair who sits on his/her hands.
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So your point is that you have no idea how the athletic department is funded? Because it ain't from tuition, room, board or anything else from the general fund.

And were you there Saturday? Just curious.
 
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No, you are not the only one who thinks IU could benefit from a better student section. However, you may certainly be the only one advocating for moving high-end donors up out of the seats (after they have financially supported the athletic department for years) so you can get more students sitting closer to the floor. Disrespect all the high-end donors and there will be much more to complain about than the student section. Are there other options? Perhaps; try enticing the older donors to move up a few rows by offering their section only some incentive (free beer, designated concession with upgraded selections/pricing, seat cushions . . . whatever it takes). Many SEC football stadiums have similar VIP sections but not sure that works for basketball arenas.
 
DCGeneral said:
I guess I'm the only one who things we should have a better student section.
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No we need to let students enjoy the games … it’s part of roping them in as alumi donors … now that the team is better ... there will be more student demand.
 
As one of the blue hairs and large donors for > 20 years that you are referring to, I’d consider trading my seats on the end bleachers (opposite the band) for seats in what is the current student section as long as its row 25 or lower.

PS…..I don’t just sit on my hands as I’ve read on here. Many of the long-time ticket holders continue to be very loud.
 
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The student section should have been re worked when IU was in the toilet with Crean. Soften the blow. Most of the good student sections in the B1G were created when the school was in toilet. No one cared.

Tricky discussion. Assembly is not being rebuilt for a while.
 
My gripe is this. In my lifetime, and I’m 66 now, I’ve only been to a ballgame at AH on four occasions.
Two of them is when my daughter was a student at IU.

Each and every time, We either had to pay the Scalpers high price, or pay the ridiculous prices of the seats on Stubhub.

What I would like to see…. Is the athletic department setting aside 5,000 seats per game, for those fans that only make it to a game once every ten years, at the price printed on the ticket.

I agree that my idea is stupid, because there is no way to track who hasn’t been there in 10 years and such.

But it just ticks me off that we have fans that have never seen a game live in AH, just because they’re not going to have their wallets raided for the almighty $$$

Maybe if those high $$$ season ticket holders would offer up their seats at face valve, for two games out of the season, to those that never get to go. That would be a nice gesture.

But again…. People would claim they’ve never been to a game and be dishonest about it.

So it is what it is.
 
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My gripe is this. In my lifetime, and I’m 66 now, I’ve only been to a ballgame at AH on four occasions.
Two of them is when my daughter was a student at IU.

Each and every time, We either had to pay the Scalpers high price, or pay the ridiculous prices of the seats on Stubhub.

What I would like to see…. Is the athletic department setting aside 5,000 seats per game, for those fans that only make it to a game once every ten years, at the price printed on the ticket.

I agree that my idea is stupid, because there is no way to track who hasn’t been there in 10 years and such.

But it just ticks me off that we have fans that have never seen a game live in AH, just because they’re not going to have their wallets raided for the almighty $$$

Maybe if those high $$$ season ticket holders would offer up their seats at face valve, for two games out of the season, to those that never get to go. That would be a nice gesture.

But again…. People would claim they’ve never been to a game and be dishonest about it.

So it is what it is.
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I go about to about five or six games per year - usually with my wife but sometimes just me. I have a couple of friends who have season tickets and I occasionally am offered theirs, but mostly I use Stubhub. I will not sit in the balcony, nor will I sit any higher than row 33 on the main level. I track Stubhub regularly for games I want/am able to attend. Like everyone else, I hate their excessive fees but it is what the free market will bear. I don't know the economics of the ticket reselling business but I assume that if profit could be made by providing that service at a lower fee rate, then someone else would be stepping up to do it. Stubhub collects from the seller as well, so I'm sure sellers would be happy to find an alternative. As you say, it is what it is. That's free enterprise.

My point is that I know what the value is to me and by paying attention to the market and Stubhub's site, I almost always find what I believe to be good (or at least reasonable) deals. If not, I watch the game on tv. I found good seats for last night's game about two weeks ago and snapped them up. I was all in ( two seats plus a parking pass), fees included, for just under $200. For me personally it didn't stress my finances and it was well worth it. Great game, my wife and I had a great date including a nice dinner, and I was back home before 10 pm. If I do that five times per season I've spent less than a thousand dollars. Given that I usually attend a couple of pre-conference games that are less expensive and that sometimes I find a cheap single ticket it's probably closer to $700 ( less when I get my friends' tickets for free or at face value). In my mind that's a hell of a bargain considering what some folks pay to have season tickets in the nosebleed sections.

Life is short. I'm not far behind you, age wise ( I'm 63) and I'm comfortable, but certainly not wealthy. Most of us find the money for things that are important to us. I learned a long time ago that for me, spending money on experiences brings me far more pleasure than spending money on possessions. When I don't think the return is worth the price, I don't spend the money. But I don't complain that I am not being given a fair opportunity. I would have loved to be at the Purdue game last Saturday, but I wasn't willing to pay the going rate. And nobody owed me a ticket at less than the market price. I'm at a point in my life where I'm not willing to sit in what I consider lousy seats. Not for a game, a concert, a play or anything else. So I choose to be selective and not look back at either what I spend or what I miss.

My advice is this: if you believe you would enjoy an IU game live in AH, invest the time to find a bargain and pull the trigger. Make it part of your budget to do so by finding somewhere else to trim an expense or two or save up for it in advance. My parents are in their mid-eighties and don't have the physical wherewithall to go and do much these days. Nor do they have the desire. My dad always tells me that the only things he regrets in life are the times he passed on things he would like to have done because he didn't want to spend the money. He has never regretted spending for the things he knew he would enjoy.
 
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My gripe is this. In my lifetime, and I’m 66 now, I’ve only been to a ballgame at AH on four occasions.
Two of them is when my daughter was a student at IU.

Each and every time, We either had to pay the Scalpers high price, or pay the ridiculous prices of the seats on Stubhub.

What I would like to see…. Is the athletic department setting aside 5,000 seats per game, for those fans that only make it to a game once every ten years, at the price printed on the ticket.

I agree that my idea is stupid, because there is no way to track who hasn’t been there in 10 years and such.

But it just ticks me off that we have fans that have never seen a game live in AH, just because they’re not going to have their wallets raided for the almighty $$$

Maybe if those high $$$ season ticket holders would offer up their seats at face valve, for two games out of the season, to those that never get to go. That would be a nice gesture.

But again…. People would claim they’ve never been to a game and be dishonest about it.

So it is what it is.
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Almost always tickets available around the holidays when students are gone.
 
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DCGeneral said:
They pay tuition, room and board. And a current student should get a better seat than a bluehair who sits on his/her hands.
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i'll leave money out of this, because i don't think it should be part of it anyway.

students are not bigger or better fans than the non students who attend, not in the slightest, thus don't deserve any more preferential treatment than they already get.

that said, seems like you're just trolling to me.
 
Tscurlo said:
My gripe is this. In my lifetime, and I’m 66 now, I’ve only been to a ballgame at AH on four occasions.
Two of them is when my daughter was a student at IU.

Each and every time, We either had to pay the Scalpers high price, or pay the ridiculous prices of the seats on Stubhub.

What I would like to see…. Is the athletic department setting aside 5,000 seats per game, for those fans that only make it to a game once every ten years, at the price printed on the ticket.

I agree that my idea is stupid, because there is no way to track who hasn’t been there in 10 years and such.

But it just ticks me off that we have fans that have never seen a game live in AH, just because they’re not going to have their wallets raided for the almighty $$$

Maybe if those high $$$ season ticket holders would offer up their seats at face valve, for two games out of the season, to those that never get to go. That would be a nice gesture.

But again…. People would claim they’ve never been to a game and be dishonest about it.

So it is what it is.
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5,000 seats to people that don't buy season tickets?

Go to a game in December when the kids are gone. It's not hard to get into a decent seat at Assembly Hall. You just can't count on that during B10 season when the team is playing well, which hasn't been the case in many years.
 
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Watching the 1993 Michigan game and the bleacher floor section looks like they cleared out all the retirement homes. Not standing. jackets still on. I think I saw a scarf and gloves. Looks pathetic as hell. Should call it the 80-up club.
 
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A 17k student section. Tremendous thinking
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Imagine the arrests, but having them all couped together might make it easier for the cops and security and make it more difficult for them to rush the court after our next NW home win. There could be silver linings. I'm all for it if they go all the way and put a Star Trek force field around it. It would not be hard. They're wasted, just pipe in the game to it and let them listen to themselves, they won't know the difference
 
DCGeneral said:
Because they are the CURRENT college kids and the team is representing the students. It is their time, not ours. We had our time. Why is that so hard to understand?
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No, the team has an obligation to represent the University first, especially with all the benefits they get and now paying them!
 
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