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Work did me in with this thread. So many opportunities to shit post in here, but I couldn't stay engaged because I was actually busy with work.

To the rest of you

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OMG
Work did me in with this thread. So many opportunities to shit post in here, but I couldn't stay engaged because I was actually busy with work.

To the rest of you

Good Morning Hello GIF by Saturday Night Live
Hey, somebody’s got to KTLO.

SERIOUSLY. Somebody used that on a PPT and expected everybody to know wtf it meant.
 
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Yep a lot of people still cannot stand thinking of a woman as President. Too emotional, dontcha know.
That's wasn't why. Had nothing to do with it, for 99% of the voters against her.
Had a lot to do with it for 99% of the voters for her.
And since those for her lost, they say ridiculous stuff like it was because she was a woman and so the people they hate politically must be misogynists.
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Replace “you” with “what is needed for the system to work” and I’m with you.

The issue isn’t and shouldn’t be what I am or am not comfortable with— it should be and I am arguing about what is healthy and unhealthy for our nation.
Change "what is needed for the system to work" for "what is needed for me to be comfortable with the system" and I'm with you.

But, since we have to do a lot of "replace ___________ with ____________" with each other, I don't think we are on the same page on this one as I'm not sure what the daylight is between what you are comfortable with and what you think is healthy and unhealthy for our nation.
 
Trump former aide Griffin today: “ The fact that Trump’s own Vice President is not backing him is not getting enough attention. That is historic. That is a big deal. He knows that Trump is unfit. “
Again, the people who actually know him know how catastrophic another four years would be. But the Trumpers here, who he wouldn’t let step foot into Mar A Largo without a million dollar donation, yeah, you guys know better. Uh huh. Makes so much sense.

Why are you turning this into a Trump thread? This about NPR going woke because of a woke hire.
 
We’ve been over this a million times. No policies aren’t the only things that matter I prefer a leader who is not an international laughing stock. . But I prefer Biden’s policies over Trump’s by a long shot. You’ve told us a million times how Biden ruined the economy and ignore the impact of the pandemic and the fact that we did not go into a recession as everyone was predicting. You like to say anything good was in spite of Biden and I say anything good was in spite of Trump. As I’ve mentioned several times, ACCORDING TO PEOP!E WHO WORKED FOR TRUMP, he was not allowed to do many of the things he wanted to. All of the adults in the room have left him and are begging us not to elect him again. You know, the people who KNOW HIM! about people like you think you know better. There will be no adults in the room this time. Trump will not appoint anyone besides yes men and criminals to help him carry out his revenge tour. In 50 years, the history books will be wondering what the hell people were thinking. I won’t be here to say I fought it every inch of the way, but I’ll sure be saying I told you so.

I have posted dozens of times a link to the SF Fed Reserve report detailing the negative impact Biden's spending policies affected the economy and inflation.

I have also linked numerous times the economic impact of Biden's gas prices.

And I have provided links regarding the recession we DID have in 2022 with two consecutive quarters of negative GDP.

You simply just want to ignore facts.
 
of course. i hate having to supply the answers. ideally coh and i and the dream team want to present questions that allow the posters to find the answers themselves. but ... it's like we got assigned to teach detention
We really are a special group of educators. From boobs, to borders, to Bitcoin, we’ve got you covered.
 
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You might think that as for his policies. As a person and human being, it’s not even close or debatable. Trump has been a horrible human his entire life. No one had a bad word to say about Biden until he became President. Even Lindsey Graham said he was one of the most decent and honest people I’ve ever known in politics. And as good a man as God ever created. Yes, there’s a difference. A huge difference. Anyone who can’t see it is deaf, blind, or ignorant.
Biden is a despicable human being. He lied about every part of his personal history to enhance his candidate appeal.

But wait, there is more.

Biden lied about the death of a spouse and two children in order to gain voter sympathy. Not even Trump is that awful.
 
Change "what is needed for the system to work" for "what is needed for me to be comfortable with the system" and I'm with you.

But, since we have to do a lot of "replace ___________ with ____________" with each other, I don't think we are on the same page on this one as I'm not sure what the daylight is between what you are comfortable with and what you think is healthy and unhealthy for our nation.
Quite a bit of daylight between what I am comfortable with and what I think is healthy for the nation. An example: I think it is healthy for the nation for Nazis to be allowed to march and say all kinds of terrible things at a permitted rally. Palestians, too. I'm not comfortable with either, though.

With the press, I think it's healthy for news organizations to cover politicians fairly, and not put their thumb on the scale for one or another, even if I'm not comfortable with one of the politicians winning--in fact, even if I think that politician would make the country much worse if elected.

My "replace with" language was intended as a shortcut to show we could reach agreement and that I agree with your analysis to a degree, but think that with the other language it would better capture what I'm trying to say.
 
Brad, wow !!!

What attracted you to socialism ?
Fairness. Excesses of capitalism. A belief in the possibility of a true brotherhood of man. A natural inclination to systematic thinking and top-down problem solving. A desire to help the poor and downtrodden. Probably many more less high-minded things (although it was never women--there were no baddie socialists in the 1990s that I ever met).
 
Quite a bit of daylight between what I am comfortable with and what I think is healthy for the nation. An example: I think it is healthy for the nation for Nazis to be allowed to march and say all kinds of terrible things at a permitted rally. Palestians, too. I'm not comfortable with either, though.

With the press, I think it's healthy for news organizations to cover politicians fairly, and not put their thumb on the scale for one or another, even if I'm not comfortable with one of the politicians winning--in fact, even if I think that politician would make the country much worse if elected.

My "replace with" language was intended as a shortcut to show we could reach agreement and that I agree with your analysis to a degree, but think that with the other language it would better capture what I'm trying to say.
Appreciate your always reasonable conversation on things. Maybe we are just parsing words, but you seem quite comfortable with Nazis and Palestinians being allowed to march and say all kinds of terrible things at a permitted rally. Cool on that. I am, too. I don't see much daylight between those things.

And I think it's nice that you think that it's healthy for a news organization to cover politicians fairly and not put their thumb on the scale for one or another, even if you aren't comfortable with one of the politicians winning. The thing is that there's never been a time in news reporting where the press was free of substantial bias driven by a set of influential actors. It's just the nature of lens setting because our press is made of for-profit entities driven by audience interest.

And the interesting thing (to me) is that people complain about individual reporters as though that's the key to where bias lies. Of course those biases exist, but the much larger biases are set on the editorial and publisher/broadcaster level. That's where the agenda setting really happens and it happens in ways that most people aren't even aware of and in ways that typically most often aren't "bad" (IMHO) in any way.
 
Appreciate your always reasonable conversation on things. Maybe we are just parsing words, but you seem quite comfortable with Nazis and Palestinians being allowed to march and say all kinds of terrible things at a permitted rally. Cool on that. I am, too. I don't see much daylight between those things.

And I think it's nice that you think that it's healthy for a news organization to cover politicians fairly and not put their thumb on the scale for one or another, even if you aren't comfortable with one of the politicians winning. The thing is that there's never been a time in news reporting where the press was free of substantial bias driven by a set of influential actors. It's just the nature of lens setting because our press is made of for-profit entities driven by audience interest.

And the interesting thing (to me) is that people complain about individual reporters as though that's the key to where bias lies. Of course those biases exist, but the much larger biases are set on the editorial and publisher/broadcaster level. That's where the agenda setting really happens and it happens in ways that most people aren't even aware of and in ways that typically most often aren't "bad" (IMHO) in any way.
So getting past the history, do you think this NPR story not very interesting or relevant? Do you think it common for a newsroom to operate in this way? Or not something to really worry about?

One thing this doesn't fit your description is that NPR is not a for-profit entity (worse, it's funded by fed tax dollars in part). And the complaint here is that he biases exist and are set on the editorial level. I'm not sure who the editor has to answer to at NPR or if they can be influenced in the way you're talking about.

As for my knowledge of how things really work in newsrooms, I must point to my trusted (and only) sources that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that all editors are heroes that always buck the influential actors you speak of:

All the Presidents Men
The Paper
Spotlight
The Post
Citizen Kane (well, crap, that doesn't help)
 
Fairness. Excesses of capitalism. A belief in the possibility of a true brotherhood of man. A natural inclination to systematic thinking and top-down problem solving. A desire to help the poor and downtrodden. Probably many more less high-minded things (although it was never women--there were no baddie socialists in the 1990s that I ever met).
Coach? Are you seeing this? This commie swine MUST be kicked off the dream team. He’s probably got a Lenin poster and walks around in a Che tee shirt.
 
Coach? Are you seeing this? This commie swine MUST be kicked off the dream team. He’s probably got a Lenin poster and walks around in a Che tee shirt.
No, no. I always liked the theory. Marx offers a pretty comprehensive world view. But once I learned the bloody history of most communist revolutions, I was turned off to those characters. I also recognized economics and human nature aren't as malleable as I once hoped.

And in my defense/detriment, for about two years in college, I was a true, blue Objectivist. I read everything Ayn Rand wrote. EVERYTHING. Now, that turn definitely did involve a very attractive IU student (who I have yet to locate via the Facebook, which is really frustrating).
 
NPR started pumping the climate crap in the 80’s per their DC swamp cabal, who paid them to do so. It was a MAJOR play just to get people to sell cheap beach / coast property, so the swamp can buy and make $$$ .
That’s how far our cabal has this shit planned out!! And more so, how far they will fight when we see between their crap!
Keep fighting America!! The REAL Americans I mean.
 
But wait. That media bias chart linked by all the libs never showed all this to be true.
Like this one.


That one skews things further left than others, others tend to have Reuters pretty dead center. This one has Reuters slight liberal. The one above has NPR and WSJ pretty much a left-right mirror image. I'd say any news source between them and one is doing pretty well. Go past either and danger is approaching.

The podcast Brad linked was an hour long, I'd be asleep or pulling my hair out sitting through an hour-long podcast like that. I did listen to 5 minutes, at that point it was all anecdotal. Maybe they got into specifics, data, showing percentages of NPR stories they claimed exhibit bias. If so, someone tell me where in the podcast.
 
Like this one.


That one skews things further left than others, others tend to have Reuters pretty dead center. This one has Reuters slight liberal. The one above has NPR and WSJ pretty much a left-right mirror image. I'd say any news source between them and one is doing pretty well. Go past either and danger is approaching.

The podcast Brad linked was an hour long, I'd be asleep or pulling my hair out sitting through an hour-long podcast like that. I did listen to 5 minutes, at that point it was all anecdotal. Maybe they got into specifics, data, showing percentages of NPR stories they claimed exhibit bias. If so, someone tell me where in the podcast.

It was a really good podcast. But here's a piece that the NPR editor also wrote.



Oh... and guess what. NPR suspended him for 5 days without pay for writing this and appearing on Barri's podcast


Very sad what NPR has turned into. I used to listen to it... Not frequently, but a decent amount. Now it's become trash.
 
Like this one.


That one skews things further left than others, others tend to have Reuters pretty dead center. This one has Reuters slight liberal. The one above has NPR and WSJ pretty much a left-right mirror image. I'd say any news source between them and one is doing pretty well. Go past either and danger is approaching.

The podcast Brad linked was an hour long, I'd be asleep or pulling my hair out sitting through an hour-long podcast like that. I did listen to 5 minutes, at that point it was all anecdotal. Maybe they got into specifics, data, showing percentages of NPR stories they claimed exhibit bias. If so, someone tell me where in the podcast.
No, I think Berliner's account is an insider's anecdotal experiences. I listen to hour-long interviews all the time, though. Maybe that explains my hairline?

Re NPR vs. WSJ, there's no comparison on the news side. WSJ reporting is top- notch, in depth, and is dead center (actually a bit to the left per this rating):


NPR is a clear lean left in news reporting (despite being partially funded by federal tax dollars which are supposed to adhere to a strict objectivity, non-partisan requirement)--all confirmed by allsides analysis, so there is your data if you need it-- and Berliner's experiences confirm that was intentional, not an accident or a coincidence.
 
That's a weird piece. She seems to think NPR wasn't woke enough, and therefore, it wasn't woke at all. She even seems to state it was "in the grasp" of white liberal identity politics. Lots of other illogical arguments in there.

NPR is definitely deep in the grasp of white progressive (I won't even call it liberal) politics. That's been clear since George Floyd and definitely since the pandemic.

The white progressive savior complex is flourishing there... Built up by a bunch of people who have experienced little actual difficulties in life and are obsessed with having some grandiose purpose of saving society. When they are really just a lot filled with academic goobers engaging in extreme groupthink
 
No, I think Berliner's account is an insider's anecdotal experiences. I listen to hour-long interviews all the time, though. Maybe that explains my hairline?

Re NPR vs. WSJ, there's no comparison on the news side. WSJ reporting is top- notch, in depth, and is dead center (actually a bit to the left per this rating):


NPR is a clear lean left in news reporting (despite being partially funded by federal tax dollars which are supposed to adhere to a strict objectivity, non-partisan requirement)--all confirmed by allsides analysis, so there is your data if you need it-- and Berliner's experiences confirm that was intentional, not an accident or a coincidence.

WSJ is basically the only major traditional news outlet worth reading.
 
No, I think Berliner's account is an insider's anecdotal experiences. I listen to hour-long interviews all the time, though. Maybe that explains my hairline?

Re NPR vs. WSJ, there's no comparison on the news side. WSJ reporting is top- notch, in depth, and is dead center (actually a bit to the left per this rating):


NPR is a clear lean left in news reporting (despite being partially funded by federal tax dollars which are supposed to adhere to a strict objectivity, non-partisan requirement)--all confirmed by allsides analysis, so there is your data if you need it-- and Berliner's experiences confirm that was intentional, not an accident or a coincidence.
Your hairline is a choice
 
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NPR is definitely deep in the grasp of white progressive (I won't even call it liberal) politics. That's been clear since George Floyd and definitely since the pandemic.

The white progressive savior complex is flourishing there... Built up by a bunch of people who have experienced little actual difficulties in life and are obsessed with having some grandiose purpose of saving society. When they are really just a lot filled with academic goobers engaging in extreme groupthink
It’s only going to get worse

 
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NPR is definitely deep in the grasp of white progressive (I won't even call it liberal) politics. That's been clear since George Floyd and definitely since the pandemic.

The white progressive savior complex is flourishing there... Built up by a bunch of people who have experienced little actual difficulties in life and are obsessed with having some grandiose purpose of saving society. When they are really just a lot filled with academic goobers engaging in extreme groupthink
Todays progressives are the polar opposite of classic liberals.
 
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