Is this legal?
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The Pennsylvania voter registration initiate was legal, so I assume this is as well. I do want to say thank to your side for pissing off Elon. All your side had to do was invite him to the White House for the EV summit and not turn one of his kids trans 😁
I don't think it matters anymore.
It should be illegal, but as Mark said, it doesn't really matter anymore. It should, but it just doesn't.
In Trump world, legal vs. illegal is of no concern. All they care about is whether they can get away with it.
lol....Democrats have been doing get out and vote campaigns for years. The rocket scientist is just better at it. Instead of giving some dork movie star money, he gives it to the average person. As a liberal you should appreciate him giving the money to a working person 😁
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There is a big difference between trying to convince people to vote and paying them to do so. How likely is someone to vote for the opposite candidate after getting paid to vote?
Pretty much opening the door to paying people to vote against their interests.
It's on the same level of bad as when the limits were taking off on how much money you could donate to campaigns....aka bribing politicians.
He's just trying to persuade them to vote, just like Democrats have been doing for years. I appreciate his methods because he's puts out in the open. You don't have to vote for the GOP to qualify for it. I thought Democrats were for higher turnouts?
"Get out and vote" is a lot different than paying people to vote.
Ask yourself this - if you could talk to snarlcakes circa 2011-12 and some left boogie man like George Soros was offering money to Democratic voters, what do you think he'd say?
I have no awareness of what applicable law says about what he's doing. Seems off, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's illegal.
That said, clearly, he's hanging his hat on the fact that he himself is not a candidate and the lottery isn't contingent on how somebody voted...just that they voted.
Whether that's enough to carry the day in court, I have no idea.
Again, I have no idea how much the distinction matters, but eligibility for his giveaway doesn't (explicity) have anything to do with a party or candidate. It can be somebody who voted for the Dem candidate.
Everyone knows who Musk supports. Paying people is crossing the line.
I have no problem with Musk doing what democrats have been doing for years, which hasn't included paying people.
I believe the qualification was that the person had to sign the petition that states: "Judges should interpret laws as written, not rewrite them to fit their personal or political agendas. By signing below, I’m rejecting the actions of activist judges who impose their own views and demanding a judiciary that respects its role — interpreting, not legislating."
There is no explainer provided for how the winner was selected, but Musk's PAC indicated in court that the awards were not random but were given to people deemed suitable "spokespeople" for the PAC's messaging.....
If I could talk to 2011-12 snarlcakes I'd tell him to buy a sh#t ton of Bitcoin and then mortgage a house and buy more Bitcoin. I don't have any issues with what Elon is doing. Politics ain't beanbags.
That’s exactly right. But there are morons here (including one guy who likes to use Latin phrases inappropriately and is convinced he's always the smartest person in the room) who insist fear of prosecution and jail time will keep Musk in check.
The only hope is a massive repudiation of this shitshow in November 2026.
Elon can pay me all he wants before I go behind the curtain and cast my vote…
Pissing off the most brilliant autist in the world to the point where he makes the demise of your political party his singular goal. Great move.
The guy is an Obama lover for crying out loud. All they had to do was be relatively normal.
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The Soros family could do the same thing. But then they’d have to come out from the shadows and admit they aren’t just a Republican scapegoat.
More effective that way. D.C. destruction takes a little bit to filter on down.
Why do you think Musk is offering the chance at two, one million dollar checks?
Given all his work for the DOGE completely out of the kindness of his heart, maybe he should donate the money to the govt instead to work on the deficit.
Why would he donate his money to the government when he thinks the gov isn’t worth a shit and needs doge. How stupid are you hickory
because you shouldn't be able to buy votes/elections.
Well, I think he's buying votes. I know he's only giving out two checks, but the price of entry is to have voted. I know he could technically give the check to someone who voted against his own interest, but I doubt it. I don't think being deliberately vague about who the checks are going to should give him a pass here.
Oh brother. You have a lot to learn Hick.
What is Medicare, SS, Medicaid other than buying votes? Food stamps? BBB? Student loan forgiveness?
Democrats will always have an inherent advantage over republicans electorally given they are more willing to promise free money.
Because the ability of an enormously wealthy person (or people) to buy systems access and election outcomes is the path to an oligarchy, if we’re not already there.
I'd be fine with him focusing on rebuilding Tesla's brand, building better electric cars and rockets.
he did this because he hates woke with a passion. that much is obvious. twitter purchase. gov involvement.
You have an incredibly jaded, cynical, and sad view on life and how the US government works - and what it should do.
If he directly pays people to vote for his candidate, I'd agree with you. But he isn't and your doubt isn't evidence. If he does it, I'd assume some prosecutor in Wisconsin would go after him (the state AG, for example, is a Democrat) and pursuant to their statute, they should. Actually, as I read it, what he's doing might be illegal now, but I'm not sure this particular scheme should be. Paying people who already voted and who need not prove who they voted for doesn't strike me as that dangerous.
But I asked the question to highlight an interesting technique: would you be against the government setting up a fund for campaign contributions like they do now and turning it into a lottery, with every voter in that election getting a chance to win the fund? Seems like a good way to goose voter participation if that is what you care about.
As to why he's doing it, I'd guess he thinks the more people who vote, the better chance that his preferred candidate has of winning. I'd also predict that this scheme is going to be politicked against in WI as an attempt by a billionaire non Wisconsin medler trying to buy their court. That is going to generate some push back votes, for sure.
Again, it doesn't matter unless someone decides to bring charges. Fat chance that will happen.
I have a constitutional view of how government should work. And while the programs I mentioned can be debated as serving the greater good, the people who implemented them knew full well they were buying votes.
