I’m guessing Auburn would give Cignetti whatever he wanted. It would be so typical of IU to screw over football by favoring basketball.
Is Cignetti getting shortchanged on NIL?
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If they have another year like they had last year,teams will be coming after him HARD.
No. I think he’s kidding around with his usual dry humor. Of course he wants more $ every coach but maybe five do too, but he likely isn’t upset or anything like that.
Our FB NIL continues to go up. MBB NIL/rev share is #10-15 so not really taking from FB. Plus we have spent a fortune on the staff.
Our FB NIL continues to go up. MBB NIL/rev share is #10-15 so not really taking from FB. Plus we have spent a fortune on the staff.
Geez dude.. he’s joking
No shit. C'mon, gradman, lighten up. Just because Fred is no longer here doesn't mean you have to find something else to blame everything on.
He's being half way serious...You people are kidding yourselves if you think he's not being serious.
Another couple of 9+ win seasons, and football will dominate that town.
Another couple of 9+ win seasons, and football will dominate that town.
Could be a modicum of truth in that sarcasm .
I mean he’s joking but if the right program came in with the buyout and more money, he’d be stupid not to listen. You can probably count on your hand those schools and at that point what they’d really pay for a coach that old, so now you’ve really narrowed it down. I could only see USC, A&M and as mentioned Auburn, ever making a move for him that would honestly scare me. The one wildcard may be Pitt. (As coach Bryant once said “Ma Ma’s calling”)
He would only leave for another school in the Big Ten or SEC. Those are the only two conferences that matter in football.
He’s not moving to an ACC school unless he wants less funds. His age, would he want to move out to LA? I don’t see him as that type of dude but I guess stranger things have happened. What do you think the prospects are for your Buckeyes to repeat as NC this year? Didn’t you mention somewhere that was your primary team?
Cignetti's not going anywhere. IU is already better than all those teams mentioned and was the school that gave him a chance. Plus he's built it from nowhere. You don't think he gets a kick out of that.
There's something to be said for being the big fish in a small pond. Ask Mark Few.
Dakich once asked Few about the IU job and if he’d entertain the thought and Few told him emphatically “no” and that the fans were nuts and unrealistic
Mrs. Cig likes Bloomington and, after a lifetime of moving every few years, I imagine she's content to stay in B-town until his retirement, at least.
He's already a multi-multi-millionaire probably well beyond his expectations. He's got generational wealth. Nothing he needs and nothing left to prove.
I want to see a statue of him shaking Bob Knight's hand between Memorial Stadium and Assembly Hall.
I think cigs likes the challenge of beating the big fish
Well..., I agree with most of all that but I'm pretty sure he believes he still has plenty to prove...
No one is going to take us seriously year in year out Nationally until we start beating the "Big Names" in the Big Ten, back to back to back to back and end up in the Playoffs doing the same thing and advancing futher each time...
It's my impression that he seriously wants to build something lasting here... The approach outlined above is the close to the only way to do that...; (unless you want to settle for being an Iowa [which I know based on our past experience many of us would]...)... I'm pretty sure he's thinking bigger..., like Ohio $tate, Alabama dynasty type bigger...
No one is going to take us seriously year in year out Nationally until we start beating the "Big Names" in the Big Ten, back to back to back to back and end up in the Playoffs doing the same thing and advancing futher each time...
It's my impression that he seriously wants to build something lasting here... The approach outlined above is the close to the only way to do that...; (unless you want to settle for being an Iowa [which I know based on our past experience many of us would]...)... I'm pretty sure he's thinking bigger..., like Ohio $tate, Alabama dynasty type bigger...
At Huber's, he did say if Indiana wanted to be tops in football, it couldn't be in the middle of the B1G NIL. He was serious.
My team growing up.
I’m kind of like Kyle Schwarber without the athletic skills. Yes, they were my team growing up.
Personally I wouldn’t bet on them to. It’s hard to repeat and it won’t be lack of talent if they don’t. They still have arguably the two best players in cfb in Smith and Downs. I don’t think they are thrilled with depth in the D line and could be a concern. Last year the worst thing that happened to them in losing half the O line to injuries is now a positive because they played so many in big games and now are the strength of the team. That should help Sayin and the new backs get their feet wet. The schedule doesn’t do them any favors though. Floor is 3 losses and obviously the ceiling is to repeat.
Look at the numbers — we are pumping serious $ into football vs just 18 months ago. More is needed but we’ve made huge strides.
MBB matters at IU obviously, but we aren’t spending wildly on MBB right now.
Things are fine — in fact they’re as good as they have ever been. Just look forward to the season for crying out loud.
MBB matters at IU obviously, but we aren’t spending wildly on MBB right now.
Things are fine — in fact they’re as good as they have ever been. Just look forward to the season for crying out loud.
“Ciggi” ain’t going nowhere soon. He turns 64 on Monday with Spring chicken years left in a cloud of dust well behind him, now settled. If Curt were to become 44, he might be more restless in bottled up energy. He’s still in the development of IU’s super powerhouse status. He’s motivated to follow in the footsteps of his father’s CF Hall of Fame induction, like father/like son.
Your well-played idea of a bronzed Knight and Cignetti in grasp of hand residing between the two venues is worthy of reward. Expect to find a transfer of funds from Shirley’s bank account into yours.
He'll be a target every year if he keeps winning here. Hope we don't get tired of winning and paying to play. Go Hoosiers!
Tired of winning? Indiana FOOTBALL? Are you kidding me? I hope we just get invited to the Bad Boy Mowers Pinstripe Bowl!
Maybe Cig wants to be Alabama and Ohio State, but I don't want IU to be those types of schools.
If it happens due to good coaching and doing things legally, fine. But becoming a football factory, no. Finishing high in the conference, going to a good bowl, competing with the top programs, no scandals - those are my goals for this program.
You do realize that OSU & Alabama are 1 & 2 in the nation in APR? Seems like for being “football factories” they are also excelling in the classroom too. Alabama hasn’t had a scandal involving football in well over 20 years and other than tattoo gate at OSU, they’ve never had one. Yes, both schools have had high profile players get in trouble but name a school who hasn’t? Tennessee and Michigan on the other hand.. Those are scandals. Now am I dumb enough to believe that hundred dollar handshakes didn’t happen at those schools? Nope, I’m sure they did but don’t be naive enough to think that never happened at Indiana either.
I stand by my statement. You and I both know O$U and Alabama bought players well before NIL. They will do whatever it takes to stay on top, legal or not, and I don't want that at IU.
Maybe you do. Whatever. I just know how I feel about it. And APR? Are you serious? That means absolutely nothing in today's world. Get back to me when players are suspended or kicked off the team for academics or credits not transferring, etc.. Funny how you never hear about that anymore.
I’ve heard and read that his wife really likes it here so that’s a plus,happy wife happy life😉
I believe he was joking. I sure hope so, because that is the big fear for IUFB fans. I do not think he leaves IU, unless forced out for whatever reason. I understand the Pitt connection, but the ACC is not the Big Ten and you will not get the same money for everything. Texas A&M owes a bazillion dollars in payouts already and don't see them pulling the plug early on Elko. Bama is not going to go after Cig either. It's helps IU that he's 63.
Cignetti won’t be satisfied until IU is the top in everything, particularly NIL. He has the highest of standards which is new for an athletic department that has been fine with mediocrity for decades.
After the recent large staff budget and NIL/rev share increases, there is also pressure on Cig to continue performing well this season. High expectations for Dolson/IU and high expectations for the coach.
Personally, while NIL does need to keep pace with the rest of the conference, I’m more concerned (at least currently) with possible stagnation in terms of potential facilities upgrades. This is imo the most momentum IU has had since Mallory really had things rolling and that opportunity was largely squandered.
I couldn’t disagree more strongly with those who think Mellencamp is just fine as it is, and if I were Dolson I’d already have commissioned architectural renderings of what MS’s east side would look like with some luxury suites and additional general seating added to it.
I don’t think much additional seating is needed: I don’t see a time when IU will ever need a 70,000 or 80, 000 seat stadium but something more than 52,000 seems worth consideration— along the lines of 60,000 ultimately, possibly phased in over 5-8 years or so.
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Every upgrade needs to be thought of as revenue generating
Especially with I-69 finished and lots of donor money and students on board.
Our head coach doesn’t seem concerned about Mellencamp
Hiring a coach that will be 65 when he coaches his 1st game for you would be difficult. Especially if he didn’t retain Haines or Shanahan and one of those would be promoted here.
I was dead wrong about Dolson. Dead wrong.
I thought he’d be a clone of the previous ADs and would put us right back in the basement. He is all-in on football. Feels like that he made this his personal challenge and top priority to fix football and elevate it.
That would be cool.
The issue IU has right now is the athletic dept finances are stretched very thin -- we can see it in the layoffs and $25M loan from IU to the AD. Increases in media rights and football revenue should help us get back on better footing, but it's tough right now with all the expenses starting up, notably $22M of rev share.
A new practice facility would be nice, but do we want to spend $50M on that or $50M on players over several years? I'd go for the players.
My hope is we get enough corporate interest such that building east or westside suites has an appealing ROI. Agree Memorial Stadium's final form is probably 55-60K with those suites built -- that's about the right size. IIRC, Courtsensetwo said there were plans to build suites, but covid delayed that project. So, we'll see. I think there is a master plan for the stadium, we just haven't seen it.
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Yea. And Pam. They both understand the fortunes of the athletic dept are more or less tied entirely to football.
CFB is so much bigger than CBB... I'd cap our MBB payroll at #10-15 in the country until the new staff prove they can use more money with a good ROI (and I think they will, I like CDD and his staff). Until then, continue to try and throw the kitchen sink at football. Our home B1G opener vs. Illinois is bigger and more important than any game on the MBB schedule and it's not even close.
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