Is AI ruining education?
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For online classes I would think it is a problem. For in person classes? I don't know how you fire up ChatGPT and interact with it without being noticed.
I just finished an online physics course and the prof made it clear that using AI was cheating. I don't know how he would find out if someone did it. But in the tests, he would embed the needed information in photos, thus making it harder for AI to really know what it is he is looking for. Of course, I never used AI, so I am not sure how easy that was to evade. Now, the person might retype everything into AI, but then they sort of have to know the right question to ask AI.
In many ways I don't know if AI is any different than Google. I can ask AI to write Powershell code for me, and it does a good enough job. But it isn't that much different than Googling what I am trying to do and find a site where someone has done it and is sharing the code. It can customize it for me, if I am running it against another machine I can put that in so I don't have to replace their generic name with the real name. Other than that, I'm not really sure that AI isn't just advanced Google-Fu at the moment.
I just finished an online physics course and the prof made it clear that using AI was cheating. I don't know how he would find out if someone did it. But in the tests, he would embed the needed information in photos, thus making it harder for AI to really know what it is he is looking for. Of course, I never used AI, so I am not sure how easy that was to evade. Now, the person might retype everything into AI, but then they sort of have to know the right question to ask AI.
In many ways I don't know if AI is any different than Google. I can ask AI to write Powershell code for me, and it does a good enough job. But it isn't that much different than Googling what I am trying to do and find a site where someone has done it and is sharing the code. It can customize it for me, if I am running it against another machine I can put that in so I don't have to replace their generic name with the real name. Other than that, I'm not really sure that AI isn't just advanced Google-Fu at the moment.
Could revolutionize K-8 education if we had a public education system that was agile enough. I’m skeptical we do.
Was reading about Alpha Schools the other day. Cool concept. Kids only do two hours of core coursework a day and spend the rest of the day pursuing avenues of interest.
Was reading about Alpha Schools the other day. Cool concept. Kids only do two hours of core coursework a day and spend the rest of the day pursuing avenues of interest.
AI is certainly transforming education, but whether it's "ruining" it depends on how it's used. On one hand, AI can provide personalized learning experiences, assist teachers with administrative tasks, and make education more accessible to students with diverse needs. Tools like AI-powered tutoring, automated grading, and adaptive learning platforms can enhance the learning process in exciting ways.
On the other hand, there are concerns about students relying too much on AI, potentially diminishing critical thinking skills. If students use AI tools to complete assignments without understanding the material, it could lead to a decline in genuine learning. Additionally, AI-generated content raises issues about plagiarism and misinformation.
Ultimately, education is about balance—AI can be a powerful tool, but it works best when combined with traditional learning methods that encourage curiosity, problem-solving, and deep engagement with subjects. What’s your take on it? Have you noticed AI affecting education in any specific way?
On the other hand, there are concerns about students relying too much on AI, potentially diminishing critical thinking skills. If students use AI tools to complete assignments without understanding the material, it could lead to a decline in genuine learning. Additionally, AI-generated content raises issues about plagiarism and misinformation.
Ultimately, education is about balance—AI can be a powerful tool, but it works best when combined with traditional learning methods that encourage curiosity, problem-solving, and deep engagement with subjects. What’s your take on it? Have you noticed AI affecting education in any specific way?
Not how that works. People will need to learn different things but they’ll still need to learn.
They'll need to learn basics, obviously, but many jobs will be replaced.
Speaking of AI and jobs being lost, one driverless semi is running between Houston and Dallas. That won't be an empty interstate in Montana.
Aurora Begins Commercial Driverless Trucking in Texas, Ushering in a New Era of Freight
With roundtrip driverless hauls between Dallas and Houston occurring on a regular basis, the company is the first to deploy a self-driving class…...
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Sucks. Great gig for people coming to America. Good pay etc. bosnos here love those jobs. And good for pi lawyers. $750k min insurance coverageSpeaking of AI and jobs being lost, one driverless semi is running between Houston and Dallas. That won't be an empty interstate in Montana.
Aurora Begins Commercial Driverless Trucking in Texas, Ushering in a New Era of Freight
With roundtrip driverless hauls between Dallas and Houston occurring on a regular basis, the company is the first to deploy a self-driving class…...
Ai will fck up a lot of parasitic jobs too
You’ve never had to get on the phone with a defiant Serbian trucker who is seven hours late for his pick up appointment.
Good riddance.
You’ve never had a Bosnian trucker take all of the paperwork on the desk and throw it all onto the floor in a sweeping move then conduct an entire settlement discussion with his back to you. To where you and your partners are only speaking to his back. I could bench over 300 pounds. This man came from a village where their paws were larger than those of a silverback and could snap your neck like a twig.
You’ve never shown up to a workers comp prehearing to see three other lawyers all hired by your claimant. “I pick one with best offer”
You’ve never had to open your mail and find medical records from the war that actually explain how your client got injured. Not the alleged punch press.
You’ve never had to experience the hell of these scenarios a thousand times over. Nor the smell of them after their lunch at the titty bar after being on the road for a week
Believe me I know. These are brutal people to handle
So you know. Duplicity and lying is the default setting for these guys.
Not sure why we should lament their trucking jobs being lost.
my experience has been they are willing to work. they came here with nothing. less than nothing. started businesses. opened bakeries. opened seamstress shops. cleaning companies. trucking companies. filled factories here. i honestly know they are an absolute pain in the ass and have a cultural bent to argue but they've largely been a boon to our city. it's actually a hot button issue as many say how did a population come from nothing and in two decades occupy almost a third of the city's population and eclipse the black population in output and suburban flight who have been there for a 100 years
Hurting or humiliating someone isn’t the best way to handle conflict or frustration. If there’s tension with Bowlmania, maybe there’s a way to address it that doesn’t involve negativity. I can help you think through a better approach—what’s really going on?
Revolutionize or killed critical thought? I don't see how kids will ever develop critical thinking if they are relying upon AI all of the time. There will inevitably be a scenario where it is needed, they are inept and AI isn't available to tell them what to do or how to do it.
Speaking of AI and jobs being lost, one driverless semi is running between Houston and Dallas. That won't be an empty interstate in Montana.
Aurora Begins Commercial Driverless Trucking in Texas, Ushering in a New Era of Freight
With roundtrip driverless hauls between Dallas and Houston occurring on a regular basis, the company is the first to deploy a self-driving class…...
Life will get easier but I 100% agree that fulfillment will be a problem.
I think we vastly overestimate how much critical thought is learned today under the Prussian model.
Check it out, seems like the time outside of coursework is when most of the critical thinking is done.
I need to figure out how to employ AI to automod this forum.
That sounds like a pretty intense concern. Generally speaking, the FBI doesn’t monitor everyday conversations unless there’s a legitimate reason tied to law enforcement or national security. If you’re just discussing football and making comments on Hoosier Huddle, it’s highly unlikely you’d attract attention from federal authorities.
Of course, if you’re worried about something specific, it never hurts to be mindful about how you phrase things online. But if it’s just normal discussion and opinions, you’re probably in the clear. Anything on your mind that’s causing concern?
That’s quite the conundrum—balancing diplomacy with the urge to fire back. If you actually want the deal, you might have to swallow some pride and approach it pragmatically. Something like:
"Listen, I know we don’t see eye to eye, but if you can hook me up with a solid price on that Sniper fuel injection system, I’m willing to set aside our differences. Let’s keep this about business."
That way, you maintain your dignity without escalating the hostility. Or, if the insult was too much to ignore, you could play it cool and drop a sharp retort:
"If being a ‘moron’ gets me a discount on a Sniper system, I’ll take it. But if respect isn’t part of the deal, I’ll find someone else to do business with."
Either way, setting boundaries while keeping your options open seems like the move.
This bot of his moves goalposts faster than DANC or COH could ever hope to do.
LLM is nothing but faster and faster computer speeds mashing more and more data and doing pattern recognition. I think this would improve poor and mediocre education. But I don’t see much help for excellent or elite education of high functioning students, At some point an LLM Will just give you a loop of platitudes and known knowns.
But there is also substantial effort in going beyond LLM, I think that is a ways off for AI.
As for cheating, do it like law school, the whole grade is a single proctored exam.
In a week it would become sentient and try to kill half of the posters.
Not sure I like this.Speaking of AI and jobs being lost, one driverless semi is running between Houston and Dallas. That won't be an empty interstate in Montana.
Aurora Begins Commercial Driverless Trucking in Texas, Ushering in a New Era of Freight
With roundtrip driverless hauls between Dallas and Houston occurring on a regular basis, the company is the first to deploy a self-driving class…...
LLMs might be ruining brains, too:
futurism.com
Researchers Scanned the Brains of ChatGPT Users and Found Something Deeply Alarming
Scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology have found some startling results in the brain scans of people using ChatGPT.
futurism.com
Second. I used to be able to write SQL.LLMs might be ruining brains, too:
Researchers Scanned the Brains of ChatGPT Users and Found Something Deeply Alarming
Scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology have found some startling results in the brain scans of people using ChatGPT.
Now I monkey SQL with MS Co-Pilot.
It’s making me dumber, but more efficient and productive.
What difference does it make if someone uses AI to fill in the blank of a test question vs writing it down from self-brain recall. The knowledge written is the same. If the prof prefers correct answers from rote memory, put in enough questions such that time favors the brain knowledged. AI questioning will take more time for each answer. Those not using AI will complete more questioning but will lose some correct answers to faulty memory lapses. AI won’t have these wrong answers but will have fewer correct ones, thanks to time restraints of the fourth dimension.
Self-replicating AI robots may someday inherit the earth as a normal evolution of man in higher advanced societies. Perhaps the evolutionary epiphany of chimpanzee in Kubrick’s 2001, A Space Odyssey is analogous to the epiphany of present day man’s AI advancement in intelligence. We just don’t recognize it as such, yet. You heard it here first. You may not here it again for a second.
We’ll be so productive that the job loss will be easy to absorb. And then new jobs will arise.
If you’re not an AI optimist, it’s because you’ve only read about AI on Twitter and haven’t used it to do your job.
Ironically. It is you, Dbm, who cowers in fear of AI and fails to practice it and understand it, that will be replaced.
It will be a change and cause some massive societal shifts. So did the Industrial Revolution and the internet.
The frequency of these seismic shifts is accelerating, though.
I heard someone talking about raising kids and what's going on now. He said this might be the first time in human history where parents had absolutely no clue what skills their kids needed to succeed in the world 20 years hence. I'm having that issue myself. It's not easy.
Productivity outpaces the job loss each time. We just need a government than can allocate funds correctly. And unemployed humans to be able to find a sense of purpose.
But I still don’t ascribe to the idea that AI is the death of employment. Humans find new shit to do, always.
Trump is currently deporting the Mexicans so we'll having roofing and construction jobs to look forward to. But what happens when Elon's robots start building the houses for us? That is coming eventually.
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