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Indiana Kenpom Ratings

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Freshman
Dec 15, 2012
585
1,313
93
Season / Nat'l Offense Rank / Nat'l Defense Rank
2009 / 231 / 174
2010 / 190 / 176
2011 / 61 / 128
2012 / 4 / 72
2013 / 2 / 19
2014 / 126 / 38
2015 / 8 / 200
2016 / 6 / 59
2017 / 27 / 104

2018 / 92 / 65
2019 / 82 / 32
Present / 54 / 47
 
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Looking at those Crean years (starting in his third year) IU was pretty consistent offensively, if you throw out 2014. Defensively was a different story.

I don’t need to go into my thoughts on Crean as a coach, as that would be beating a dead horse. However, my take is that Crean ran a roller coaster program. I’m a little surprised that the offensive rankings were that good, or that consistent. Defensively we were all over the place.

under miller, it is baffling to me that we aren’t better defensively this season than we were last year. Much of that can be attributed to phin not being 100%, but with our front court, and having added a rim protector I would expect that we should be a much better defensive team.

Philosophically we seem to stress over hedging. That stresses our D - I don’t really like seeing Brunk or TJD hedging several feet beyond the arc. Asking them to cover the court, especially Brunk who isn’t exactly fleet of foot, is not exactly placing them in a position of advantage.

offensively we are better on run outs and our offense gets bogged down in the half court. That’s why D is so important for this team.
 
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Looking at those Crean years (starting in his third year) IU was pretty consistent offensively, if you throw out 2014. Defensively was a different story.

I don’t need to go into my thoughts on Crean as a coach, as that would be beating a dead horse. However, my take is that Crean ran a roller coaster program. I’m a little surprised that the offensive rankings were that good, or that consistent. Defensively we were all over the place.

under miller, it is baffling to me that we aren’t better defensively this season than we were last year. Much of that can be attributed to phin not being 100%, but with our front court, and having added a rim protector I would expect that we should be a much better defensive team.

Philosophically we seem to stress over hedging. That stresses our D - I don’t really like seeing Brunk or TJD hedging several feet beyond the arc. Asking them to cover the court, especially Brunk who isn’t exactly fleet of foot, is not exactly placing them in a position of advantage.

offensively we are better on run outs and our offense gets bogged down in the half court. That’s why D is so important for this team.

I sure don't understand the OVER hedging. I think it was Hummel that said in the OSU game that the object was to push the ball handler all the way to half court to limit his vision!! It also puts our big (usually) WAY out of position and time after time, one or two passes gets the O an open shot.

TJD did a hedge that IMO was perfect. He stepped out, limited the progress of the ball handler and in a step and a half was right back on his guy. No advantage given the O.
 
Looking at those Crean years (starting in his third year) IU was pretty consistent offensively, if you throw out 2014. Defensively was a different story.

I don’t need to go into my thoughts on Crean as a coach, as that would be beating a dead horse. However, my take is that Crean ran a roller coaster program. I’m a little surprised that the offensive rankings were that good, or that consistent. Defensively we were all over the place.

under miller, it is baffling to me that we aren’t better defensively this season than we were last year. Much of that can be attributed to phin not being 100%, but with our front court, and having added a rim protector I would expect that we should be a much better defensive team.

Philosophically we seem to stress over hedging. That stresses our D - I don’t really like seeing Brunk or TJD hedging several feet beyond the arc. Asking them to cover the court, especially Brunk who isn’t exactly fleet of foot, is not exactly placing them in a position of advantage.

offensively we are better on run outs and our offense gets bogged down in the half court. That’s why D is so important for this team.
By the kenpom rating (as opposed to the rank), we are better defensively this year. The rank has fallen because all the other teams have also improved, on average more than us. This is at least partly attributable to the three point line moving.
 
We need to play 50 man. Switch every ball screen. It’s an effective defense against the 3 pt shot.
 
Season / Nat'l Offense Rank / Nat'l Defense Rank
2009 / 231 / 174
2010 / 190 / 176
2011 / 61 / 128
2012 / 4 / 72
2013 / 2 / 19
2014 / 126 / 38
2015 / 8 / 200
2016 / 6 / 59
2017 / 27 / 104

2018 / 92 / 65
2019 / 82 / 32
Present / 54 / 47
By year 4 Crean had the offense rolling now Archie is supposed to b the defensive genius why aren’t his defensive numbers comparable!
 
Season / Nat'l Offense Rank / Nat'l Defense Rank
2009 / 231 / 174
2010 / 190 / 176
2011 / 61 / 128
2012 / 4 / 72
2013 / 2 / 19
2014 / 126 / 38
2015 / 8 / 200
2016 / 6 / 59
2017 / 27 / 104

2018 / 92 / 65
2019 / 82 / 32
Present / 54 / 47
Go check out Tony Bennett’s Kenpom progression at Virginia look at defensive numbers in years 3/4 Archie ain’t even close
 
By year 4 Crean had the offense rolling now Archie is supposed to b the defensive genius why aren’t his defensive numbers comparable!
Archie's year 3 defensive rank is better than Creans offensive rank in year 3...they aren't just comparable, they are better.
 
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Looking at those Crean years (starting in his third year) IU was pretty consistent offensively, if you throw out 2014. Defensively was a different story.

I don’t need to go into my thoughts on Crean as a coach, as that would be beating a dead horse. However, my take is that Crean ran a roller coaster program. I’m a little surprised that the offensive rankings were that good, or that consistent. Defensively we were all over the place.

Philosophically we seem to stress over hedging. That stresses our D - I don’t really like seeing Brunk or TJD hedging several feet beyond the arc. Asking them to cover the court, especially Brunk who isn’t exactly fleet of foot, is not exactly placing them in a position of advantage.

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Crean traded defense for offense. Transition 3's, crashing offensive boards, leaking on defense and not protecting defensive boards. All three things will bump up offense and decrease defensive efficiency. Plus, he just didn't teach defense well, and ignored that we needed true big men.

On the hedge: I vehemently disagree, when you have bigs who can push Cash Winston to the half court line multiple times on hedge, that is a weapon and it's disruptive as hell. And, we are not getting burnt doing it. Now when the opponent decides to adjust and pop or use a slip screen, we need to be a bit more aware and adjust to that. so, it's more a matter of when and how aware we are. Overall we do a very good job on it.

Stopping penetration when not in a PnR, basically one on one no screen and guarding a dribble drive, is the major issue. Al bites at everything, Phin seems a step slower and Devonte just reaches and lets them go past.. and since our guards have to play on their heels to stop it, it opens the up the shot for the other guys.

Yesterday the problem was our bigs turning into ballerinas. Trying to finesse rim chances on the road in the B1G looking for ref bail outs (so cute) and getting pushed around by lesser more aggressive players.
 
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Crean traded defense for offense. Transition 3's, crashing offensive boards, leaking on defense and not protecting defensive boards. All three things will bump up offense and decrease defensive efficiency. Plus, he just didn't teach defense well, and ignored that we needed true big men.

On the hedge: I vehemently disagree, when you have bigs who can push Cash Winston to the half court line multiple times on hedge, that is a weapon and it's disruptive as hell. And, we are not getting burnt doing it. Now when the opponent decides to adjust and pop or use a slip screen, we need to be a bit more aware and adjust to that. so, it's more a matter of when and how aware we are. Overall we do a very good job on it.

Stopping penetration when not in a PnR, basically one on one no screen and guarding a dribble drive, is the major issue. Al bites at everything, Phin seems a step slower and Devonte just reaches and lets them go past.. and since our guards have to play on their heels to stop it, it opens the up the shot for the other guys.

Yesterday the problem was our bigs turning into ballerinas. Trying to finesse rim chances on the road in the B1G looking for ref bail outs (so cute) and getting pushed around by lesser more aggressive players.
Archie’s doesn’t do anything well at least Crean did something good
 
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