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In scathing Gallup poll Biden with least popular president in 70 YEARS Uggghhh

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Ouch this just hurts, BUT after lies, plagiarism, crimes, Benghazi, taxes, capital gains taxes, soaring inflation, violence in the streets, I'm sorry people are waking up. A career, horrible, evil, politician, let's not bring up his daughter or son for that matter. More and more democrats are realizing what in the hell were we thinking. It all makes sense now.

 
Ouch this just hurts, BUT and after lies, plagiarism, crimes, Benghazi, taxes, capital gains taxes, soaring inflation, violence in the streets, I'm sorry people are waking up. A career, horrible, evil, politician, let's not bring up his daughter or son for that matter. More and more democrats are realizing what in the hell were we thinking. It all makes sense now.

He’s a radical left winger. It should be abysmal
 
Ouch this just hurts, BUT after lies, plagiarism, crimes, Benghazi, taxes, capital gains taxes, soaring inflation, violence in the streets, I'm sorry people are waking up. A career, horrible, evil, politician, let's not bring up his daughter or son for that matter. More and more democrats are realizing what in the hell were we thinking. It all makes sense now.

@IU_Hickory why would this be?
 
@IU_Hickory why would this be?
All they know how to do is bash Trump. But but but Joe is running the country so well...LMAO what an absolute joke and to think they voted for him. A serial lying plagiarist, career failure of a politician and dad, and remind me never to move to Delaware. That must be like living in a sardine can smeared with mustard. For Gods sakes he even stole Trumps speech during the first SOTU which had his base semi hard until they woke up the next day and read the news. Biden does a Trump 2.0. Then they got mad at Trump again. God they need help.
 
Ouch this just hurts, BUT after lies, plagiarism, crimes, Benghazi, taxes, capital gains taxes, soaring inflation, violence in the streets, I'm sorry people are waking up. A career, horrible, evil, politician, let's not bring up his daughter or son for that matter. More and more democrats are realizing what in the hell were we thinking. It all makes sense now.

Biden's pretty unpopular, and for good reason, but your headline leaves out the most important part of the story: "at this point in his presidency." In other words, Biden is in bad shape right now compared to other presidents at the exact same point during their first term, but that doesn't mean he's historically unpopular overall. His approval rating, though a personal low for him, is still higher than Trump earned as he left office, and the "at this point metric" limiting the comparison to first terms hides the fact that Bush2 never even got as high as Biden is now during his entire last year in office (and the vast majority of his last two years).

What kills me is that these games really aren't necessary. Biden is polling pretty badly right now. That's the story. Trying to trick people into thinking it's something even more than that is just dishonest. And falling for it is idiotic.
 
Biden's pretty unpopular, and for good reason, but your headline leaves out the most important part of the story: "at this point in his presidency." In other words, Biden is in bad shape right now compared to other presidents at the exact same point during their first term, but that doesn't mean he's historically unpopular overall. His approval rating, though a personal low for him, is still higher than Trump earned as he left office, and the "at this point metric" limiting the comparison to first terms hides the fact that Bush2 never even got as high as Biden is now during his entire last year in office (and the vast majority of his last two years).

What kills me is that these games really aren't necessary. Biden is polling pretty badly right now. That's the story. Trying to trick people into thinking it's something even more than that is just dishonest. And falling for it is idiotic.
More than that??? His entire run has been a joke. The guy is a career lying politician for Gods sakes. Do you hear the numbers he spews? That's all bullsh!t. CNN did a write up at the beginning of this year about his BS crap it's all he's ever done. The only reason Trumps gallop poll wasn't higher was Covid FFS. Until Covid things were great so when all these posters here say BS to that they are all lying jackasses. If we wanna go there I'll post articles. Been there done that. Look at the country right now as a whole. Look at St. Louis, San Fran, New York had to call the National Guard in and crime still took place in the subways.

Cmon man!
 
I saw where the old boy who has correctly predicted 9 of the last 10 presidential elections, including Trumps win in 2016, has made some pretty cryptic comments regarding the 2024 election. While he hasn’t said outright that Biden will win, he has said that a lot would have to go wrong for him to lose.

He’ll make his official prediction in August.

I think the point is that polls and approval ratings mean almost nothing at this point.

 
I saw where the old boy who has correctly predicted 9 of the last 10 presidential elections, including Trumps win in 2016, has made some pretty cryptic comments regarding the 2024 election. While he hasn’t said outright that Biden will win, he has said that a lot would have to go wrong for him to lose.

He’ll make his official prediction in August.

I think the point is that polls and approval ratings mean almost nothing at this point.

Lets do the bellwether counties...Ohhh wait
 
More than that??? His entire run has been a joke. The guy is a career lying politician for Gods sakes. Do you hear the numbers he spews? That's all bullsh!t. CNN did a write up at the beginning of this year about his BS crap it's all he's ever done. The only reason Trumps gallop poll wasn't higher was Covid FFS. Until Covid things were great so when all these posters here say BS to that they are all lying jackasses. If we wanna go there I'll post articles. Been there done that. Look at the country right now as a whole. Look at St. Louis, San Fran, New York had to call the National Guard in and crime still took place in the subways.

Cmon man!
If the average voter truly viewed Biden the way you do, his approval rating would be in the 20s, not the high 30s.
 
If the average voter truly viewed Biden the way you do, his approval rating would be in the 20s, not the high 30s.
I think any objective, informed person knows he’s pathetic. So this goes to how many progressives are really out there - at least in part. Most of my friends are libs and think he is God awful. The party has gone way left. Maybe a significant part of our pop has too
 
I think any objective, informed person knows he’s pathetic. So this goes to how many progressives are really out there - at least in part. Most of my friends are libs and think he is God awful. The party has gone way left. Maybe a significant part of our pop has too
On this metric, you're not objective, either (although at least you're not crazy like DDE). Biden is unpopular, yes. He's not the most hated man in history whom all right-thinking folks understand is a total disaster. Hell, a lot of the people who are unapproving of his job are the extreme progressives. The people who are giving him positive marks are probably largely mainstream Dems.
 
On this metric, you're not objective, either (although at least you're not crazy like DDE). Biden is unpopular, yes. He's not the most hated man in history whom all right-thinking folks understand is a total disaster. Hell, a lot of the people who are unapproving of his job are the extreme progressives. The people who are giving him positive marks are probably largely mainstream Dems.
I don’t think so. My friends are mainstream Dems. I was a mainstream Dem. Mainstream Dems who are informed consider him a radical progressive. Cradle to grave benefits aren’t supported by mainstream Dems. Approval rating doesn’t equate to most hated man in history
 
I don’t think so. My friends are mainstream Dems. I was a mainstream Dem. Mainstream Dems who are informed consider him a radical progressive. Cradle to grave benefits aren’t supported by mainstream Dems
Well, the radical progressives don't consider him one of them. And he still polls 33% approval among independents. So I'm sticking by what I said. Your view of Biden is skewed away from how he is viewed by the broader electorate.
 
Well, the radical progressives don't consider him one of them. And he still polls 33% approval among independents. So I'm sticking by what I said. Your view of Biden is skewed away from how he is viewed by the broader electorate.
Progressives take issue globally

But the largest social safety net in history
Opening the border
Climate/green agenda
Etc
Race/social Justice

And it continues with student loans

That’s all core issues that are congruent with progressives.

 
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If the average voter truly viewed Biden the way you do, his approval rating would be in the 20s, not the high 30s.
I'm surprised he gets defended like he does. He is a career POLITICAL hack. Not a sh!tty businessman. A lying politician who has gotten away with a ton. All he has done is make things worse and he lies to cover his lies. He did it his entire campaign and throughout the past 4 years. Sorry I have receipts. And a lot more than this.
https://oversight.house.gov/blog/jo...-15-times-about-his-familys-business-schemes/
 
Progressives take issue globally

But the largest social safety net in history
Opening the border
Climate/green agenda
Etc

That’s all core issues that are congruent with progressives.
Meh. He's not really opening the border, and the social safety net, as well as most of the "green agenda" is not really hardcore progressive, but mainstream left.

He might seem progressive to you because of the direction from which you are looking at him, but from the point of view of a true progressive, he's JAFD - Just Another F*ckin' Democrat.
 
I'm surprised he gets defended like he does. He is a career POLITICAL hack. Not a sh!tty businessman. A lying politician who has gotten away with a ton. All he has done is make things worse and he lies to cover his lies. He did it his entire campaign and throughout the past 4 years. Sorry I have receipts. And a lot more than this.
https://oversight.house.gov/blog/jo...-15-times-about-his-familys-business-schemes/
Thank you for proving my point to @mcmurtry66 with the Jacobin link.
 
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Meh. He's not really opening the border, and the social safety net, as well as most of the "green agenda" is not really hardcore progressive, but mainstream left.

He might seem progressive to you because of the direction from which you are looking at him, but from the point of view of a true progressive, he's JAFD - Just Another F*ckin' Democrat.
Not in the least. None of these were front and center under Obama or Clinton. Clinton came out left of center then pivoted after year one. Biden vowed to be transformative. He’s a far cry from just another democratic. That’s laughable. Border. Climate. Cradle to grave benefits. Gov expansion. Everything revolving around identity politics. Shit Clinton had a balanced budget. No. Biden is the squad. A far cry from Dems of recent history. And as noted a progressive agenda in year one to the surprise of most. Again progressive agenda



 
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Thank you for proving my point to @mcmurtry66 with the Jacobin link.
There's 3 others you want more? I'm shocked you have his back at this point. I guess the other things he did, you know the German dictator tactics. That's nothing right?

Board of Disinformation
Vaccine Mandates
Bidens internet plan that the FCC opposed giving the state control over the internet
Twitter Files and IRS showing up to intimidate Taibbi
702 which everyone thinks going after citizens without a warrant is ok LOL
Going after political opponents, have you read redacted material it all points back to the White House?

*Those in italics give the state spy power

This guy IS a little hitler.
 
Ouch this just hurts, BUT after lies, plagiarism, crimes, Benghazi, taxes, capital gains taxes, soaring inflation, violence in the streets, I'm sorry people are waking up. A career, horrible, evil, politician, let's not bring up his daughter or son for that matter. More and more democrats are realizing what in the hell were we thinking. It all makes sense now.

Thankfully, Jimmy Carter has clung to life long enough to get this monkey off his back! 😉
 
There's 3 others you want more? I'm shocked you have his back at this point. I guess the other things he did, you know the German dictator tactics. That's nothing right?

Board of Disinformation
Vaccine Mandates
Bidens internet plan that the FCC opposed giving the state control over the internet
Twitter Files and IRS showing up to intimidate Taibbi
702 which everyone thinks going after citizens without a warrant is ok LOL
Going after political opponents, have you read redacted material it all points back to the White House?

*Those in italics give the state spy power

This guy IS a little hitler.
You're an idiot.
 
Not in the least. None of these were front and center under Obama or Clinton.
Wrong. Of course they were. And your Republican talking points are nothing new. They’re straight outta Gingrich and other Pubs.

Gingrich attacked President Clinton’s health care plan as “socialism now or later,” and claimed it was designed to “seize control of the health care system and centralize power in Washington.” Even the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, the health program for kids that Clinton signed into law, was criticized by the Heritage Foundation as “a step toward socialism.”

It continued with Obama. Obama’s signature climate legislation, the American Clean Energy and Security Act, was derided by Republicans who ultimately blocked its passage. Claims that the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) was a “government takeover” of medicine were a mainstay of GOP opposition to the law. When some Democrats proposed expanding Medicare to all Americans, Trump called Dems “radical socialists who want to model America’s economy after Venezuela.”

Even John McCain got in on the act when he was running against Obama in 2008. He attacked Obama’s tax proposals as “socialism” and warned that Obama “believes in redistributing wealth, not in policies that help us all make more of it.” “At least in Europe,” McCain continued, “the socialist leaders who so admire my opponent are upfront about their objectives.” McCain later asked Obama to deliver the eulogy at his funeral.

Fast forward to the present. Today’s far left hates Biden possibly as much as the far right, in part because of his support for Israel and his oil production. Our green-energy president is the leader of the country that is producing more crude oil and condensates, in average daily millions of barrels, than any other country in history.

Goat is correct. Biden’s just another Dem.
 
Goat is correct. Biden’s just another Dem.
goat is absolutely incorrect as are you. you're just grasping at straws because you hate trump so much to try and cast biden as something he's not. he's a cadaver controlled by the far left. a proxy. but make no mistake he's a far left radical progressive. the most progressive since fdr.

carter at heart was far from a progressive. "gov can't solve our problems." shit that's what biden wants to do. clinton was against tax and spend liberalism. he positioned the dems to the center. congruent with corporate dems. fought soft crime. was for balanced budgets and not welfare programs that created dependence. hell he timed out afdc. you think biden is on par with that? cradle to grave benefits?! good grief. and while obama might have been a social lib when it came to race and shit he let main street go and bailed out the biggest banks in the world. he sidled up with wall street. how do you think the working class got fed up with obama. that's hardly in keeping with biden.

biden wants significantly higher taxes on the rich. expand gov with cradle to grave benefits. add in the climate ev shit, the border reversals, all of the social justice shit and you'd have to go back to fdr to find a comparison

i'm an indepedent. i'm good with clinton and obama. voted dem always. this administration is radical and dangerous and nothing like prior dems

wish @i'vegotwinners was here to tune you up

i think some of you have amnesia and can't remember biden's agenda
 
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All they know how to do is bash Trump. But but but Joe is running the country so well...LMAO what an absolute joke and to think they voted for him. A serial lying plagiarist, career failure of a politician and dad, and remind me never to move to Delaware. That must be like living in a sardine can smeared with mustard. For Gods sakes he even stole Trumps speech during the first SOTU which had his base semi hard until they woke up the next day and read the
I saw where the old boy who has correctly predicted 9 of the last 10 presidential elections, including Trumps win in 2016, has made some pretty cryptic comments regarding the 2024 election. While he hasn’t said outright that Biden will win, he has said that a lot would have to go wrong for him to lose.

He’ll make his official prediction in August.

I think the point is that polls and approval ratings mean almost nothing at this point.

Here is Prof Lichtman, who Hoopsdoc was referencing.






I think Biden is much more popular with Dem voters overall than with the posters on this board. I also think that the Dems benefit not only on the issue of "incumbency" which Lichtman points out, but also in the area of fundraising. Having the most $$ available is a huge advantage not only in media/advertising but in organization/groundgame. In MI,PA and WI combined Biden has opened 98 field offices and I'm not sure Trump has a single one. That allows for the targeting of prosepective voters, a campaign to win them over and most importantly getting them to vote.

That's why the turnout numbers in PA (where Biden has 24 offices) is so key in a state where both candidates despeartely need to win...

For example PA just held their primary. Both Biden and Trump have sewn up their respective nominations and won handily. But both also faced on the ballot opposition from candidates who have dropped out at least a month ago Phillips and Haley. Biden and Phillips combined for 1,017,137 votes while Trump Haley combined for 950,498. For perspective,by himself Biden got 947,815 votes, less than 3000 than Trump Haley combined...

So more Dems voted, and Biden got 90% of the Dem vote. Trump got 82% of the GOP vote, but Haley got 16% at nearly 160,000 votes. And remember that while both Phillips and Haley got votes via early/mail votes, Dems are much more predsiposed to those methods. So I don't have any conclusive evidence, but my guess is that Haley got proportionately more votes on election day than Phillips did.

That means Trump has a Haley problem, and a certain (as yet undetermined ) proprtion of those Haley voters are not going to ever vote for Trump. At this point let's call them undecided. Many of them have avisceral dislike for Trump. Check out this 6 woman focus group from NC...

Two of these women voted for Trump in 2020, but now characterize themselves as undecided. My guess is those two along with at least 1 or 2 of the other 4 are "Haley voters". All 6 of them say that they believe Trump should be on trial and that they will never vote for him if he's convicted. On top of those problems, another problem for Trump is that this is NC and this is a state he needs.

But I venture to say none of these women are going to vote for Mark Robinson, and they already don't like Trump. Some of them will likely end up voting for Biden, rather than split their ballots and make the effort to vote for Trump, when they already are not going to vote for Robinson (for Gov)... Robinson will defintiely be a factor in a state this close. Whether it gives Biden an upset win in the closest Trump state in 2020 remains to be seen...

 
goat is absolutely incorrect as are you. you're just grasping at straws because you hate trump so much to try and cast biden as something he's not. he's a cadaver controlled by the far left. a proxy. but make no mistake he's a far left radical progressive. the most progressive since fdr.

carter at heart was far from a progressive. "gov can't solve our problems." shit that's what biden wants to do. clinton was against tax and spend liberalism. he positioned the dems to the center. congruent with corporate dems. fought soft crime. was for balanced budgets and not welfare programs that created dependence. hell he timed out afdc. you think biden is on par with that? cradle to grave benefits?! good grief. and while obama might have been a social lib when it came to race and shit he let main street go and bailed out the biggest banks in the world. he sidled up with wall street. how do you think the working class got fed up with obama. that's hardly in keeping with biden.

biden wants significantly higher taxes on the rich. expand gov with cradle to grave benefits. add in the climate ev shit, the border reversals, all of the social justice shit and you'd have to go back to fdr to find a comparison

i'm an indepedent. i'm good with clinton and obama. voted dem always. this administration is radical and dangerous and nothing like prior dems

wish @i'vegotwinners was here to tune you up

i think some of you have amnesia and can't remember biden's agenda
You're wrong, no matter how many times you say it.

I can't open your link. It's behind a paywall. Hopefully you can open mine.

 
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goat is absolutely incorrect as are you. you're just grasping at straws because you hate trump so much to try and cast biden as something he's not. he's a cadaver controlled by the far left. a proxy. but make no mistake he's a far left radical progressive. the most progressive since fdr.

carter at heart was far from a progressive. "gov can't solve our problems." shit that's what biden wants to do. clinton was against tax and spend liberalism. he positioned the dems to the center. congruent with corporate dems. fought soft crime. was for balanced budgets and not welfare programs that created dependence. hell he timed out afdc. you think biden is on par with that? cradle to grave benefits?! good grief. and while obama might have been a social lib when it came to race and shit he let main street go and bailed out the biggest banks in the world. he sidled up with wall street. how do you think the working class got fed up with obama. that's hardly in keeping with biden.

biden wants significantly higher taxes on the rich. expand gov with cradle to grave benefits. add in the climate ev shit, the border reversals, all of the social justice shit and you'd have to go back to fdr to find a comparison

i'm an indepedent. i'm good with clinton and obama. voted dem always. this administration is radical and dangerous and nothing like prior dems

wish @i'vegotwinners was here to tune you up

i think some of you have amnesia and can't remember biden's agenda
LOL. IGW would back us up. Biden isn't left enough for him.

You claiming your pro-Dem independence bona fides sounds exactly like OS talking about being a lifetime Republican. Not saying you're lying; just saying it sounds like bullshit.
 
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You're wrong, no matter how many times you say it.

I can't open your link. It's behind a paywall. Hopefully you can open mine.

you're wrong no matter how many times you say it. oh how convenient you can't open the link. there are only a thousand articles on biden's progressive agenda. how many more do you want?


"Despite embracing an agenda that is further to the left than that of any Democratic nominee in decades, he’s avoided the specific policy proposals and catchphrases that Republicans find easiest to attack. As a result, he appears more centrist than he actually is. In Biden, Democrats have a nominee who is promising FDR-style change, yet is avoiding the political backlash that an ambitious progressive agenda often brings." How about this from the atlantic

@TheOriginalHappyGoat
 
LOL. IGW would back us up. Biden isn't left enough for him.

You claiming your pro-Dem independence bona fides sounds exactly like OS talking about being a lifetime Republican. Not saying you're lying; just saying it sounds like bullshit.
tort reform son. you vote dem unless they are so unseemly you have no other choice. and i'd vote for clinton and obama in a heartbeat. biden is not clinton and obama. he's aoc
 
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