Im done
- Thread starter BigNutsIUFan
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To all the guys who say they can't watch,hear or go to IU Games, that is unfair to the guys on the team that are giving effort. This is a terrible shooting team. Many though Green would be the go to guy. He just isn't. It is obvious at least one player needs to go elsewhere / He might fit better. The other is gone after this season. Miller needs to up his recruiting efforts. Trace can't carry a team consistently. NOT his fault. He just can't. The frontline is decent,not great. Backcourt is abismal at their best. I only ask that you don't give up on the players who truly want to wear the candy stripes. If Miller doesn't improve in year 5 then yes by all means then abandon the Miller ship
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Because the only guard that’s doing anything at times is RP. Franklin has had one good game the entire season so far shooting the ball and that was the game in Indy. I know he’s a freshman but other freshman are shooting good from outside. The problem with this offense is that we want to feed the post but when you don’t have shooting from outside the post gets packed.
Why would anyone have considered Green to be the “go to guy”? Nothing previous to this year would’ve led anyone to conclude that.
Bench them for who. Franklin isn’t shooting well at all and Anderson isn’t shooting well so who you going to put in.
His telegraphed one handers have always driven me crazy. Archie puts up with it.
So either Archie is a moron for not recruiting better shooters, or he sucks at evaluating talent. Either way, he's not good enough for IU.
This quote says a lot.
I hope we clear that really high bar of being improved in year 5.
I disagree. I think for many, including a vocal number of people here, this is good enough.
I was at work today and someone said IU lost last night. I said, Oh I didn't realize they played.
I used to never miss a game and lived by the IU basketball schedule and planned my weeks around game time.......now I learn we lost the day after it happens. Sad really,,,,,,,,,I loved IU Basketball but it is a shell of it's former self. I'll tune in again when we get a new coach I suppose and hope they made a decent choice, that's the way it works for me.
I used to never miss a game and lived by the IU basketball schedule and planned my weeks around game time.......now I learn we lost the day after it happens. Sad really,,,,,,,,,I loved IU Basketball but it is a shell of it's former self. I'll tune in again when we get a new coach I suppose and hope they made a decent choice, that's the way it works for me.
We've already improved. It's just really hard to see when you're in the B1G where 12 teams are tourney contenders. Not enough to matter but it's there. Also, remember that most analysts picked us 7 to 11th, and outside of the tourney this year, and most media did also. We may not be over performing, but it's not like we're underperforming, is it? We have a lot of flaws in the lineup, which is probably why we were picked so low. I don't know what everyone expected out of this team, but they are where the talent implies they should be. Maybe the results of some bad recruiting mistakes (keeping Green, recruiting Damezi, keeping Moore).. but we just don't have many good players. A patchwork of misfits with glaring flaws in each.. or maybe it's an issue of development? Though judging Miller on Green and Durham's development when they had low ceilings to begin with is probably not using a good sample.
I hate that every game can't just stand alone as a game. It turns into a re-evaluation of the last 30 years, evidence of coaching proficiency (positive or negative) and a judgement on every coach we've had, then also carries the burden of the next 20 years on top of it. That's a lot of weight for one game or even one season to bear.
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It's about about you isn't it .. like for some reason you believe your feelings to be a topic of interest worth annoying others with.
We come here to talk about basketball, not how you feel. If you need a therapist and a safe space for your feelings because you can't handle the high level stress of a children's game, I'm sure you can find one on google.
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So you’re saying we should accept in year 3 of one of the highest paid coaches in college basketball that also has one of the highest recruiting budgets in the big ten that a 7-11th place finish? Why don’t u get the f—k out of here.
I think I wasn’t being clear, and yes I agree that we are improved. I still see us as a 8 seed or better, and I think we’ll be pretty darn good next year.
I wasn’t saying that we haven’t improved. I was simply having fun with this quote:
“If Miller doesn't improve in year 5 then yes by all means then abandon the Miller ship “
Yes, but how many of them are paid shills? I'd wager that there's maybe 2 or 3 shills on here, each with multiple accounts, and the rest of the Archie supporters are mindless sheeple that are just going along with whatever the popular opinion is.
The season's far from over. we are starting to see some B10 teams collapse a little, and maybe the league isn't quite as tough as people thought a couple of weeks ago. We'll make the tourney. We'll be improved (over last year, of course those 12 games cloud my judgement). How much, is still yet to be determined.
You have no self awareness at all. You should never call anyone stupid, an asshole, or a clown. It's funny when you do, but no one is laughing with you.
I can name those that defend Archie no matter what; TMP, Mr Bing, Aloha Hoosier, Bulk Akwayssmall, Courtesentwo.......That’s it
Okay, I get ya ..
This board sucks so bad after losses it;s hard to wade through all the bullshit ..
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I don't know if the blame is his or the players he has but this team above all else lacks both physical and mental toughness. PSU was a huge step backwards in that regard, and it was disheartening. After showing improvement since NW, everyone just quit, again. that needs fixed .. it doesn't take talent to play hard.
I wish they played with the intensity Miller played with, and I hope he learns how to instill that into a few of our players.
It's only the half way point though and there's a long way to go.
The PSU game sucked.
many years ago I remember someone asking coach Knight about teaching fundamentals to kids. What should they learn first? What should they be taught from an awareness standpoint?
His answer was simple. Learn to catch the ball. We seemed unable to even do that in unhappy valley. And our poor play wasn’t limited to one player. Brunk could not have played worse. And, I think, from a mental standpoint that affected our team. He’s been invaluable from a leadership and toughness standpoint during conference play.
After the game the announcers stated that PSU just continued playing “their game” even when the shots weren't falling. No matter with what you think about how PSU looked, the opposite seems true with IU. Our shooting is contagious, and unfortunately it leaks over to other aspects of our game.
You mean the same analysts and media you were demeaning prior to the season for not knowing anything? Now their opinions are worthwhile? You would make IUscott blush with your fanboyism.
You wanted to build a statue of him last week? If he succeeds? You mean you were wrong before?
Your statement right here provides every bit of evidence of your knee-jerk reactions.
No, I did not want to build a statue. I'd ask you to provide evidence of where I said any such thing, but we both know you're too pathetic to have any such expectations.
If he succeeds? If you pay attention, you'd understand there's a lot to like about Archie's approach to the game: working the ball inside, emphasizing defense. What his teams have had issue with is consistency - after 3 good games they take a step backward. Part of that is on Archie for not sitting Green's A$$ and letting his careless play derail the offense.
Wrong about him? I don't know if he'll end up being the guy for sure - just as you don't know he WON'T. The difference is I understand for this team it's a process, especially with the slim margin of error the team has. They have to get really good play out of their guards to be successful.
As I said before, Archie isn't going anywhere before the spring of 2021. If he fails, he fails. I'm rooting like hell for him to succeed 1) because I'd rather not go thru another coaching change unless absolutely necessary; 2) to watch you flop all over yourself on making excuses on why he succeeded.
